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Mar 16, 2021 19:33:02 GMT
Post by bantam147 on Mar 16, 2021 19:33:02 GMT
I'm not sure it would. I don't know how many reported sexual assaults include an allegation of drink spiking in the first place to be honest. But as a copper, you'd have to be very, very eagle eyed to spot it happening. I'd have to assume that whatever a copper can see, is as easily visible on the CCTV that exists in pretty much every bar going. CCTV is great for prosecuting people after the event, but it prevents bugger all. We all know this, even in the small number of places who always have someone watching the live CCTV feed. To see the drink-spiking you'd need to be sharp, but not the after-effects. Paralytic girl being carried home by surprisingly sober bloke always sets by spidey-sense tingling Specifically in the case of date rape, I’d imagine that one of the most compelling pieces of evidence to demonstrate premeditation of a sexual assault would be the presence of CCTV footage showing drink spiking. And yet the conviction rate remains exceptionally low. I guess time will, tell, I just don’t think it’ll make much difference, beyond reducing instances of assault inside venues themeselves.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 16, 2021 19:38:33 GMT
There are just as many vile women out there as there are men. Its fairly well established in clinical psychology that men are more likely to 'demonstrate their aggression' through physical means, whilst women are more likely to do so through non-physical means. I know a handful of coppers. My old man served in the police his whole life. All good people, all joined up to do good, all of whom are (or were by the end) utterly, utterly dismayed by the job. My eldest daughter wants to join the Police - I'm trying my damnedest to talk her out of it, because I think its a completely thankless task. mattjohnsonauthor.com/2021/03/16/im-done/Have a read of this mate, it sums up the life of a current day police officer to a tee. And why more and more are bailing out. The good are still the vast majority of this world, unfortunately let down by the powers that be. Wow. That’s a hell of a piece of writing. It’s extremely troubling to read that. We’re all fucked, really.
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Mar 16, 2021 19:44:36 GMT
Post by Neshead on Mar 16, 2021 19:44:36 GMT
mattjohnsonauthor.com/2021/03/16/im-done/Have a read of this mate, it sums up the life of a current day police officer to a tee. And why more and more are bailing out. The good are still the vast majority of this world, unfortunately let down by the powers that be. Wow. That’s a hell of a piece of writing. It’s extremely troubling to read that. We’re all fucked, really. Batten down the hatches, its only gonna get worse. Labour going for the moral highground bandwagon, right off the back of the 'vigil', almost like all this is planned.
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Mar 16, 2021 20:04:48 GMT
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 16, 2021 20:04:48 GMT
Wow. That’s a hell of a piece of writing. It’s extremely troubling to read that. We’re all fucked, really. Batten down the hatches, its only gonna get worse. Labour going for the moral highground bandwagon, right off the back of the 'vigil', almost like all this is planned. Opportunistic, nothing else. But the stats behind Labour's tweet are true. More rapes are getting reported and fewer rapes are getting prosecuted. And remember Starmer ran the CPS for years, so he does know what he's talking about. It's too easy to blame the Tories, yes, but they've cut CPS staff numbers at a time when rape investigations take even longer because of all the text messages and social media posts to trawl through.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 16, 2021 20:05:04 GMT
Wow. That’s a hell of a piece of writing. It’s extremely troubling to read that. We’re all fucked, really. Batten down the hatches, its only gonna get worse. Labour going for the moral highground bandwagon, right off the back of the 'vigil', almost like all this is planned. Thats disgraceful. Politicising a topic like this, its fucking scandalous. But its a sign of the times.
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 16, 2021 20:10:21 GMT
Batten down the hatches, its only gonna get worse. Labour going for the moral highground bandwagon, right off the back of the 'vigil', almost like all this is planned. Thats disgraceful. Politicising a topic like this, its fucking scandalous. But its a sign of the times. If crime and punishment isn't political, what is? The politicians choose how much money the police and CPS get, and the current lot chose to cut their budgets. I'd say it was fair criticism tbh.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 16, 2021 20:20:18 GMT
Thats disgraceful. Politicising a topic like this, its fucking scandalous. But its a sign of the times. If crime and punishment isn't political, what is? The politicians choose how much money the police and CPS get, and the current lot chose to cut their budgets. I'd say it was fair criticism tbh. I find that ridiculous. Its a shameful attempt at point scoring and demonstrates what an abhorrent bunch we've got trying to run the country. I have little time for anyone in politics right now, but statements like this should be beneath any political party. Not least, because for at least some of the time that rape convictions dropped Starmer was DPP and oversaw an increase in the threshold of evidence in rape cases which saw conviction rates drop even further. A set of cunts, everyone in politics. Self serving shites.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 16, 2021 20:22:27 GMT
Thats disgraceful. Politicising a topic like this, its fucking scandalous. But its a sign of the times. If crime and punishment isn't political, what is? The politicians choose how much money the police and CPS get, and the current lot chose to cut their budgets. I'd say it was fair criticism tbh. Thankfully Labour will never get back into power so the tweet means fuck all.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 16, 2021 20:27:18 GMT
If crime and punishment isn't political, what is? The politicians choose how much money the police and CPS get, and the current lot chose to cut their budgets. I'd say it was fair criticism tbh. I find that ridiculous. Its a shameful attempt at point scoring and demonstrates what an abhorrent bunch we've got trying to run the country. I have little time for anyone in politics right now, but statements like this should be beneath any political party. The pathetic tweet from Labour is exactly what the police officer was talking about in his correspondance i posted earlier. Us caught in the middle of the far right far left bullshit are left to pick up the pieces as the system falls apart at the seams. I know the Tories are lying pieces of shit but heaven help us if Liebour ever get near power again.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 16, 2021 20:31:44 GMT
I find that ridiculous. Its a shameful attempt at point scoring and demonstrates what an abhorrent bunch we've got trying to run the country. I have little time for anyone in politics right now, but statements like this should be beneath any political party. The pathetic tweet from Labour is exactly what the police officer was talking about in his correspondance i posted earlier. Us caught in the middle of the far right far left bullshit are left to pick up the pieces as the system falls apart at the seams. I know the Tories are lying pieces of shit but heaven help us if Liebour ever get near power again. Exactly right. For society to prosper, for Government to govern capably and responsibly, we need at least a semblance of responsible attitudes toward dialogue in the main parties. The left and right are diverging even further and I genuinely believe the masses are being abandoned, because most are generally fairly moderate/centrist in their views or at the very least, capable of having civil discussion on matters they disagree about. It’s gutter politics, fuelled by the gutter press and social media platforms.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 16, 2021 20:49:59 GMT
The pathetic tweet from Labour is exactly what the police officer was talking about in his correspondance i posted earlier. Us caught in the middle of the far right far left bullshit are left to pick up the pieces as the system falls apart at the seams. I know the Tories are lying pieces of shit but heaven help us if Liebour ever get near power again. Exactly right. For society to prosper, for Government to govern capably and responsibly, we need at least a semblance of responsible attitudes toward dialogue in the main parties. The left and right are diverging even further and I genuinely believe the masses are being abandoned, because most are generally fairly moderate/centrist in their views or at the very least, capable of having civil discussion on matters they disagree about. It’s gutter politics, fuelled by the gutter press and social media platforms. I guess vigils weren't a thing back then. Working class kids, no one really cares about them do they. No candle lit vigils for those poor fuckers, no political party wanting to ride the moral roller coaster on this one eh? But they were women weren't they? Just not the right fit for the agenda. The two main political parties make me fucking sick.
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Mar 16, 2021 21:27:06 GMT
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 16, 2021 21:27:06 GMT
I wouldn't be using that scandal as a way of defending the police, given it was the police who routinely ignored those girls because they were "difficult", even going so far as to drive them home to their abusers or "losing" their clothes which were given as evidence. And whilst the Labour Council in Rotherham were just as bad, with senior Labour councillors linked to the grooming gang, it was a Labour MP- Sarah Champion- who had a big role in getting those girls justice in the end. There are good and bad in both parties, which is the whole issue with seeing political parties as inherently good or bad. As for the vigil, kidnappings and murders from the street are thankfully rare and so, when it happens, it'll get a bigger reaction. Nice talking with you both, I'm done on the subject now
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Mar 16, 2021 21:40:49 GMT
Post by Neshead on Mar 16, 2021 21:40:49 GMT
I wouldn't be using that scandal as a way of defending the police, given it was the police who routinely ignored those girls because they were "difficult", even going so far as to drive them home to their abusers or "losing" their clothes which were given as evidence. And whilst the Labour Council in Rotherham were just as bad, with senior Labour councillors linked to the grooming gang, it was a Labour MP- Sarah Champion- who had a big role in getting those girls justice in the end. There are good and bad in both parties, which is the whole issue with seeing political parties as inherently good or bad. As for the vigil, kidnappings and murders from the street are thankfully rare and so, when it happens, it'll get a bigger reaction. Nice talking with you both, I'm done on the subject now I don't notice anyone defending the police, merely putting a different point of view to your outlook on events. Your view on the 'vigil', kidnappings and murders from the street happen more regular than you mention, and yet you fail to answer the question posed as to why the systematic abuse of 1,400 working class young girls failed to ellicit a response that we saw at the weekend? Never mind i guess we'll never find out....
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Mar 17, 2021 21:29:53 GMT
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Mar 17, 2021 21:29:53 GMT
I wouldn't be using that scandal as a way of defending the police, given it was the police who routinely ignored those girls because they were "difficult", even going so far as to drive them home to their abusers or "losing" their clothes which were given as evidence. And whilst the Labour Council in Rotherham were just as bad, with senior Labour councillors linked to the grooming gang, it was a Labour MP- Sarah Champion- who had a big role in getting those girls justice in the end. There are good and bad in both parties, which is the whole issue with seeing political parties as inherently good or bad. As for the vigil, kidnappings and murders from the street are thankfully rare and so, when it happens, it'll get a bigger reaction. Nice talking with you both, I'm done on the subject now I don't notice anyone defending the police, merely putting a different point of view to your outlook on events. Your view on the 'vigil', kidnappings and murders from the street happen more regular than you mention, and yet you fail to answer the question posed as to why the systematic abuse of 1,400 working class young girls failed to ellicit a response that we saw at the weekend? Never mind i guess we'll never find out.... I’d guess cos it was a bunch of posh lasses in London holding a vigil for a posh lass that got kidnapped in London, covered by a load of posh London media.
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Mar 18, 2021 16:00:20 GMT
Post by bantam147 on Mar 18, 2021 16:00:20 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 21, 2021 19:36:51 GMT
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Mar 22, 2021 8:37:25 GMT
Post by bantam147 on Mar 22, 2021 8:37:25 GMT
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Mar 22, 2021 17:55:09 GMT
Post by Hobhead on Mar 22, 2021 17:55:09 GMT
Just about 1.9m tests and 5,342 positives. If this isn’t over now it never will be.
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Mar 22, 2021 18:37:10 GMT
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Post by Hoochy on Mar 22, 2021 18:37:10 GMT
Just about 1.9m tests and 5,342 positives. If this isn’t over now it never will be. 3rd wave m8
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 22, 2021 19:07:11 GMT
Just about 1.9m tests and 5,342 positives. If this isn’t over now it never will be. 3rd wave m8 Which begs the question, what was the point of the vaccines?
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