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Post by bantam147 on Feb 27, 2021 17:34:03 GMT
That’s his inexperience and youth. Nothing to be gained from bad mouthing Stuart, it didn’t work out and he’s gone, the club and him move on. 10-15 years time he’ll be cringing every time he reads that back You were kissing his arse hole the other day. Make your mind up. Tut tut. What would jeebus say?
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Post by huggybear on Feb 27, 2021 20:14:18 GMT
You were kissing his arse hole the other day. Make your mind up. oh hello huggybear are you still here? Free country. Or do you want me de platformed?
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Post by edin on Feb 27, 2021 21:11:20 GMT
oh hello huggybear are you still here? Free country. Or do you want me de platformed? you say free country but you're the one saying a club shouldn't be sticking a rainbow on a photo
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 27, 2021 23:14:14 GMT
Free country. Or do you want me de platformed? you say free country but you're the one saying a club shouldn't be sticking a rainbow on a photo 🤣🤣 1-0
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Post by huggybear on Feb 28, 2021 7:42:13 GMT
I can also argue football should be an escape from political agendas, sexual lifestyles etc. Only the voices that conform to the far left are heard in the media and I don't want my club to get involved. Football should bring us together and not divide us. I might not like your opinions and you might not like mine but keep it away from Bradford City.
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Post by Hobhead on Feb 28, 2021 8:04:24 GMT
I can also argue football should be an escape from political agendas, sexual lifestyles etc. Only the voices that conform to the far left are heard in the media and I don't want my club to get involved. Football should bring us together and not divide us. I might not like your opinions and you might not like mine but keep it away from Bradford City. I don’t want to get into the gay flag argument but I’ve got some sympathy for this argument in principle. If it were up to me I’d keep politics and political displays out of football as far as possible.
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Post by Neshead on Feb 28, 2021 8:29:15 GMT
I can also argue football should be an escape from political agendas, sexual lifestyles etc. Only the voices that conform to the far left are heard in the media and I don't want my club to get involved. Football should bring us together and not divide us. I might not like your opinions and you might not like mine but keep it away from Bradford City. I don’t want to get into the gay flag argument but I’ve got some sympathy for this argument in principle. If it were up to me I’d keep politics and political displays out of football as far as possible. I'm all for inclusion and to get this within football and society in general it does have to be discussed. But discussed correctly, for instance what has taking the knee for so long actually achieved? The only thing the supporters of it can say it it highlights the inequalities within football but they were already being discussed anyway before this gesture. Before this it was wearing t shirts or media campaigns built around hysteria from social media. Its a subject that needs to be tackled in a different way than just sticking a caption on sky sports score logo on the corner of the screen. Bar a few morons at football matches or some attention seekers on twitter its not the problem they make it out it is. Inclusion in society in general is never gonna be perfect due to religious beliefs, no one has the balls to set on these establishments though do they? Much easier to go hysterical at the odd dickhead football fan.
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Post by Dick on Feb 28, 2021 8:40:03 GMT
'Keep politics out of football' holds no water when so much corruption, blood money, evil regimes etc. is involved and tolerated at the highest level of the sport - and most fans are just as happy to turn a blind eye to that.
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 28, 2021 9:27:16 GMT
I can also argue football should be an escape from political agendas, sexual lifestyles etc. Only the voices that conform to the far left are heard in the media and I don't want my club to get involved. Football should bring us together and not divide us. I might not like your opinions and you might not like mine but keep it away from Bradford City. That will be the far left Daily Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph and Times will it? LGTB and anti racism messages are about bringing people together and removing divides. It’s not that long ago John Barnes was getting bananas thrown at him. It’s not a far left agenda, wokeness or political correctness, it’s treating everyone with decency and respect. When that happens then football can be an escape.
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Post by huggybear on Feb 28, 2021 9:46:46 GMT
But you are not treating everyone with respect and decency. Mention you are a Christian and cue you get attacked, Sky fairy etc. I mentioned I felt othered because of the rainbow flag on my Bradford City badge. Don't I or people like me count? Or am I just another The Sun. Daily Mail reader? What's wrong with people who read these newspapers anyway?
Drop it now.
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Post by Hobhead on Feb 28, 2021 9:53:38 GMT
I can also argue football should be an escape from political agendas, sexual lifestyles etc. Only the voices that conform to the far left are heard in the media and I don't want my club to get involved. Football should bring us together and not divide us. I might not like your opinions and you might not like mine but keep it away from Bradford City. That will be the far left Daily Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph and Times will it? LGTB and anti racism messages are about bringing people together and removing divides. It’s not that long ago John Barnes was getting bananas thrown at him. It’s not a far left agenda, wokeness or political correctness, it’s treating everyone with decency and respect. When that happens then football can be an escape. How will we know when we’ve reached the appropriate level of decency and respect and who gets to decide?
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Feb 28, 2021 10:46:47 GMT
But you are not treating everyone with respect and decency. Mention you are a Christian and cue you get attacked, Sky fairy etc. I mentioned I felt othered because of the rainbow flag on my Bradford City badge. Don't I or people like me count? Or am I just another The Sun. Daily Mail reader? What's wrong with people who read these newspapers anyway? Drop it now. Honestly mate, no you don’t count. The simple reason is you are trying to exclude people based partly on your beliefs, and partly on the fact that yr a homophobe. I know plenty of religious people with no problem with gay people, but you just can’t stop banging on about it.
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 28, 2021 11:08:39 GMT
That will be the far left Daily Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph and Times will it? LGTB and anti racism messages are about bringing people together and removing divides. It’s not that long ago John Barnes was getting bananas thrown at him. It’s not a far left agenda, wokeness or political correctness, it’s treating everyone with decency and respect. When that happens then football can be an escape. How will we know when we’ve reached the appropriate level of decency and respect and who gets to decide? 🤷♂️ I dunno
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Post by huggybear on Feb 28, 2021 11:09:23 GMT
My beliefs are as valid as yours. If City put the Bible, Koran, BLM fist on to the badge I would still want it removed. I've only defended my position today from attack.
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Post by Neshead on Feb 28, 2021 11:12:11 GMT
That will be the far left Daily Mail, Express, Sun, Telegraph and Times will it? LGTB and anti racism messages are about bringing people together and removing divides. It’s not that long ago John Barnes was getting bananas thrown at him. It’s not a far left agenda, wokeness or political correctness, it’s treating everyone with decency and respect. When that happens then football can be an escape. How will we know when we’ve reached the appropriate level of decency and respect and who gets to decide? Social media courts of justice decide that not you Hob. Did we mention hoochy is a bender?
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Post by tetchyarse on Feb 28, 2021 13:28:43 GMT
But you are not treating everyone with respect and decency. Mention you are a Christian and cue you get attacked, Sky fairy etc. I mentioned I felt othered because of the rainbow flag on my Bradford City badge. Don't I or people like me count? Or am I just another The Sun. Daily Mail reader? What's wrong with people who read these newspapers anyway? Drop it now. No, people like you don't count.
I couldn't give the tiniest little shit what you believe in- God, Allah, Yahweh, Buddha, the Flying Spaghetti Monster- and, as far as I'm concerned, you can fill your boots.
Where I have the issue is when you try and argue that a rainbow flag is "offensive" and shouldn't be displayed. Why? Because you say you believe in a God who you say disagrees with homosexuality. And, so what? One of my best mates is a lesbian pastor in a queer-friendly Christian Church called the MCC, and that Church believes the Christian God loves everyone equally and doesn't care whose sexual organs you want to rub against. One of my other best mates is a devout Quaker who believes pretty much the same. So "Christianity" isn't a get out clause either. There's a huge difference between, say, the Quakers and, say, the mental cases at Church on the Way at Five Lane Ends.
If you don't like gay sex don't have sex with a gay person.
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Post by Neshead on Feb 28, 2021 14:07:35 GMT
But you are not treating everyone with respect and decency. Mention you are a Christian and cue you get attacked, Sky fairy etc. I mentioned I felt othered because of the rainbow flag on my Bradford City badge. Don't I or people like me count? Or am I just another The Sun. Daily Mail reader? What's wrong with people who read these newspapers anyway? Drop it now. No, people like you don't count.
I couldn't give the tiniest little shit what you believe in- God, Allah, Yahweh, Buddha, the Flying Spaghetti Monster- and, as far as I'm concerned, you can fill your boots.
Where I have the issue is when you try and argue that a rainbow flag is "offensive" and shouldn't be displayed. Why? Because you say you believe in a God who you say disagrees with homosexuality. And, so what? One of my best mates is a lesbian pastor in a queer-friendly Christian Church called the MCC, and that Church believes the Christian God loves everyone equally and doesn't care whose sexual organs you want to rub against. One of my other best mates is a devout Quaker who believes pretty much the same. So "Christianity" isn't a get out clause either. There's a huge difference between, say, the Quakers and, say, the mental cases at Church on the Way at Five Lane Ends.
If you don't like gay sex don't have sex with a gay person.
Where do I sign up, religion sounds fun.
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Post by Neshead on Feb 28, 2021 14:10:38 GMT
My beliefs are as valid as yours. If City put the Bible, Koran, BLM fist on to the badge I would still want it removed. I've only defended my position today from attack. Isreal Folau has shown that in law it's very difficult to not be allowed your opinion however abhorrent that may seem to some. Sued Rugby Australia for effectively banning him from the sport of rugby due to his views on homosexuals and Bible bashing. And won.
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Post by bantam147 on Feb 28, 2021 14:34:36 GMT
But you are not treating everyone with respect and decency. Mention you are a Christian and cue you get attacked, Sky fairy etc. I mentioned I felt othered because of the rainbow flag on my Bradford City badge. Don't I or people like me count? Or am I just another The Sun. Daily Mail reader? What's wrong with people who read these newspapers anyway? Drop it now. No, people like you don't count.
I couldn't give the tiniest little shit what you believe in- God, Allah, Yahweh, Buddha, the Flying Spaghetti Monster- and, as far as I'm concerned, you can fill your boots.
Where I have the issue is when you try and argue that a rainbow flag is "offensive" and shouldn't be displayed. Why? Because you say you believe in a God who you say disagrees with homosexuality. And, so what? One of my best mates is a lesbian pastor in a queer-friendly Christian Church called the MCC, and that Church believes the Christian God loves everyone equally and doesn't care whose sexual organs you want to rub against. One of my other best mates is a devout Quaker who believes pretty much the same. So "Christianity" isn't a get out clause either. There's a huge difference between, say, the Quakers and, say, the mental cases at Church on the Way at Five Lane Ends.
If you don't like gay sex don't have sex with a gay person.
Don't knock it till you've tried it, I say.
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Post by edin on Feb 28, 2021 14:50:02 GMT
No, people like you don't count.
I couldn't give the tiniest little shit what you believe in- God, Allah, Yahweh, Buddha, the Flying Spaghetti Monster- and, as far as I'm concerned, you can fill your boots.
Where I have the issue is when you try and argue that a rainbow flag is "offensive" and shouldn't be displayed. Why? Because you say you believe in a God who you say disagrees with homosexuality. And, so what? One of my best mates is a lesbian pastor in a queer-friendly Christian Church called the MCC, and that Church believes the Christian God loves everyone equally and doesn't care whose sexual organs you want to rub against. One of my other best mates is a devout Quaker who believes pretty much the same. So "Christianity" isn't a get out clause either. There's a huge difference between, say, the Quakers and, say, the mental cases at Church on the Way at Five Lane Ends.
If you don't like gay sex don't have sex with a gay person.
Don't knock it till you've tried it, I say. someone had a fun time with Hoochy
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