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Post by Dick on Sept 8, 2020 19:08:14 GMT
I'll never believe he's being backed properly until we have some sort of scouting set up. we could afford that under lawn and rhodes and rupp supposedly has the money to take us to the next level Nor will I. My worst fear is Stuart gets shafted out of blind loyalty. Oh he has the money. He's just not interested in spending any of it. The fact is he spends fuck all, anything we spend is offset by income and we have to pay back his loan - probably with eye watering interest.
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Post by tetchyarse on Sept 8, 2020 20:10:15 GMT
Mark Lawn, from 2011, but Im sure I read similar comments over the years - "We get people inquiring but not with the sort of money to alter the club. That’s what they’d need to do. “It’s got to be someone who can alter the club and take it beyond what Julian and myself can do. We could get promoted this season, hell, we could get promoted again in a few years. The thing is we could easily tumble back to this level. Like the chav who won £7m on the lottery and blew all of it a few years with nothing to show. Without the investment anywhere to discover, maintain, improve or profit on quality we're no different to someone like Yeovil in how they went up and down. I was always under the impression whoever took over, while not throwing unlimited funds at us, would invest more than asking the fans to pay for a video scoreboard. Of course everyone wants to see McCall lead us to promotion. But without the right foundations, we could just end up here again. And again. He hasn't even been given the right backing now FFS - look at the pre-salary cap shenanigans we were pulling. I'll never believe he's being backed properly until we have some sort of scouting set up. we could afford that under lawn and rhodes and rupp supposedly has the money to take us to the next level Rupp has the money, he just doesn't want to spend it. It's a shame Rahic was just a dipshit megalomaniac because, for a while, it looked like Rahic and Rupp might actually sort out the setup once and for all. McCall is a useful manager because criticism is always more muted with him in charge. Criticising McCall feels like kicking a puppy. Rahic understood that. And you get the club clagnuts at WOAP deliberately claiming that any criticism of the club is actually directed at McCall personally. How dare people criticise a club hero? Never mind the fact nobody is, we're criticising the muppets running the club, but hey ho.
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Post by yungnath on Sept 8, 2020 21:13:34 GMT
People give tca shit online for being negative but we were legitimately told these dudes would take us up and beyond what lawn and rhodes would achieve and yet we have way less in every dept. they just keep panicking and hiring stuart which is fine because as above show me a city fan who hates stu or wants him to fail and ill show you a liar, but any talk of a 5 year plan is just blowing smoke up their own arse.
woap are up their own arse as well. They completely lost my respect in the article mckeown wrote where he said verbatim in fact ill just pull the quote its that dumb.
' None of us have access to the financial realities of the club. We think we do, but we don’t know the granular detail. But we do know that right now the vast majority of Bradford City staff are furloughed, and that the club has had no real income coming in since March. In fact, Rupp is believed to be putting in additional money to underwrite these losses.'
hes just said we all think we know about the clubs finances but we don't, and then tries to tell us what is going on with the clubs finances.
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Post by mikehunt on Sept 8, 2020 21:31:08 GMT
According to our estimable friend the wage bill is about the same as last season, even though he says none of us know about the finances.
We lost:
Robinson Akpan Mellor Henley Riley Devine Gibson Anderson McCarten Reeves Taylor Vaughan
And sent back from loan Cooke Palmer Devitt Connolly Middleton McGee
This season we’ve signed: Sutton Cooke Watt Four kids
How much are we paying those lot if McKeown believes the wage bill is the same? That or McKeown is talking bullshit.
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Post by Train (F-2547) on Sept 8, 2020 21:43:20 GMT
According to our estimable friend the wage bill is about the same as last season, even though he says none of us know about the finances. We lost: Robinson Akpan Mellor Henley Riley Devine Gibson Anderson McCarten Reeves Taylor Vaughan And sent back from loan Cooke Palmer Devitt Connolly Middleton McGee This season we’ve signed: Sutton Cooke Watt Four kids How much are we paying those lot if McKeown believes the wage bill is the same? That or McKeown is talking bullshit. Can someone put that to him directly?
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 9, 2020 5:03:11 GMT
McKeown just puts out what the club wants him to to keep the more gullible fans happy with the status quo. They then join the positivity crew and argue against more realistic fans who have a tendency to believe their own eyes and our diminishing league status. In return he gets a direct line to Julian who throws him the odd bone and McKeown can occasionally start sentences with, ‘WOAP understands that...’.
In the meantime the club is slowly turning to shit and we need to give our real names to McKeown because we’ve turned a hashtag toxic. It’s not the underperforming club, the accidental chairman, the reluctant and feckless CEO or the fact that the club is run like a circus as a result. No it’s our carping that’s the problem.
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 9, 2020 6:19:33 GMT
According to our estimable friend the wage bill is about the same as last season, even though he says none of us know about the finances. We lost: Robinson Akpan Mellor Henley Riley Devine Gibson Anderson McCarten Reeves Taylor Vaughan And sent back from loan Cooke Palmer Devitt Connolly Middleton McGee This season we’ve signed: Sutton Cooke Watt Four kids How much are we paying those lot if McKeown believes the wage bill is the same? That or McKeown is talking bullshit. All those Edin and pre Covid/‘buyer’s market’ deals. The income goes down but the outgoings never seem to so we just end up crying the eternal poor tale. Thank the Lord for TCA otherwise the only people not singing from the club-approved hymn sheet would be the odd lone voice pissing in the wind.
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Post by bantam147 on Sept 9, 2020 7:13:16 GMT
How can anybody say that the wage bill is similar to lasts season, and keep a straight face?
Having watched the first 2 games, in actually slightly more encouraged, as the young lads dont look too bad. And I remind myself that this league will be even shitter thanit normally is. 2-3 quality attacking additions could see us challenge.
Just get it fucking done.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 9, 2020 7:28:13 GMT
According to our estimable friend the wage bill is about the same as last season, even though he says none of us know about the finances. We lost: Robinson Akpan Mellor Henley Riley Devine Gibson Anderson McCarten Reeves Taylor Vaughan And sent back from loan Cooke Palmer Devitt Connolly Middleton McGee This season we’ve signed: Sutton Cooke Watt Four kids How much are we paying those lot if McKeown believes the wage bill is the same? That or McKeown is talking bullshit. All those Edin and pre Covid/‘buyer’s market’ deals. The income goes down but the outgoings never seem to so we just end up crying the eternal poor tale. Thank the Lord for TCA otherwise the only people not singing from the club-approved hymn sheet would be the odd lone voice pissing in the wind. Ive read that over a couple of times and still can't believe it. We've let high earners such as Vaughan, Akpan, Riley, others on league 1 wages such as Mellor, even Robinson the paedo bear. Loans galore have gone back and we've been signing players with a strict emphasis on the salary cap. The likes of Cooke and DMH have taken a pay cut to come back. Add to talk of us having 400,000 or so left in the cap and we are nowhere near last seasons wage bill. A crazy insulation to suggest we are.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 9, 2020 7:31:20 GMT
According to our estimable friend the wage bill is about the same as last season, even though he says none of us know about the finances. We lost: Robinson Akpan Mellor Henley Riley Devine Gibson Anderson McCarten Reeves Taylor Vaughan And sent back from loan Cooke Palmer Devitt Connolly Middleton McGee This season we’ve signed: Sutton Cooke Watt Four kids How much are we paying those lot if McKeown believes the wage bill is the same? That or McKeown is talking bullshit. All those Edin and pre Covid/‘buyer’s market’ deals. The income goes down but the outgoings never seem to so we just end up crying the eternal poor tale. Thank the Lord for TCA otherwise the only people not singing from the club-approved hymn sheet would be the odd lone voice pissing in the wind. Hob, your good at this sort of shit, challenge this statement with some of your big clever words.
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Post by Dick on Sept 9, 2020 7:38:33 GMT
People wonder what the point of TCA is other than all the abuse.
One thing is to ask questions and call out shit like that comment about wages, especially when on a (sort of) prominent account in the online Bradford City community.
This point had been made for years, about looking forward to finally getting the larger earners off the books.
It finally happens, as they're trying to ham up the benefits of the smaller squad, and the higher emphasis placed on the youth players, then McKeown thinks the wages are 'pretty much the same'?
Bullshit!
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 9, 2020 7:42:24 GMT
All those Edin and pre Covid/‘buyer’s market’ deals. The income goes down but the outgoings never seem to so we just end up crying the eternal poor tale. Thank the Lord for TCA otherwise the only people not singing from the club-approved hymn sheet would be the odd lone voice pissing in the wind. Hob, your good at this sort of shit, challenge this statement with some of your big clever words. Is McKeown even a creditable source of City information anymore? He’s either a mouthpiece for propaganda or he’s an agent trying to find out personal information in any dissenters. He’s losing credibility by the day.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 9, 2020 7:50:12 GMT
Hob, your good at this sort of shit, challenge this statement with some of your big clever words. Is McKeown even a creditable source of City information anymore? He’s either a mouthpiece for propaganda or he’s an agent trying to find out personal information in any dissenters. He’s losing credibility by the day. If the club are going down a route of giving young players a chance withe emphasis on turning a profit then i respect that as its a strategic plan of which we never seem to have. But i have to call out statements like we are somehow near last seasons budget when clearly we can't be, the alleged 2.7 million spend last season was due to having a ridiculoulsy top heavy squad in numbers and as you pointed out a heck of a lot of players have gone. Its also reported the likes of R O'D and Clarke signed on reduced wages, the more you read we either hemorhage money like Mikey Carroll or the supposed figures don't add up.
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Post by Dick on Sept 9, 2020 8:04:30 GMT
Hob, your good at this sort of shit, challenge this statement with some of your big clever words. Is McKeown even a creditable source of City information anymore? He’s either a mouthpiece for propaganda or he’s an agent trying to find out personal information in any dissenters. He’s losing credibility by the day. Marketing isn't it? We obviously have little if any budget for it, so prominent social media users relaying your messages is a great, and, more importantly free channel. It's also one reason why they want to silence dissenters like us in the manner they have been. Asking for names etc. The labels of abuse, vulgar language, trolling etc. that are always directed at us is a smokescreen; it conveniently covers over that the TCA really does call out bullshit, wether through an official or semi-official channel. If they get rid of us then virtually all the prominent social channels that aren't officially associated with the club tow the party line.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 9, 2020 8:37:25 GMT
Is McKeown even a creditable source of City information anymore? He’s either a mouthpiece for propaganda or he’s an agent trying to find out personal information in any dissenters. He’s losing credibility by the day. Marketing isn't it? We obviously have little if any budget for it, so prominent social media users relaying your messages is a great, and, more importantly free channel. It's also one reason why they want to silence dissenters like us in the manner they have been. Asking for names etc. The labels of abuse, vulgar language, trolling etc. that are always directed at us is a smokescreen; it conveniently covers over that the TCA really does call out bullshit, wether through an official or semi-official channel. If they get rid of us then virtually all the prominent social channels that aren't officially associated with the club tow the party line. Funny thing is, in the world of social media we're not unique in our take on things, there are others who have a similar outlook with their respective sports and sides. Coments aimed at ourselves like ' Go and support someone else' are regular gomper diatribe throughout sanitised football forums. Generally, apart from the odd time where the negativity is not justified, the Cows Arse gets it spot on. Where McKeown regularly points that we could be so helpful to the club, well he's got that right. We're the only ones willing to push some sort of balance, believe it or not we do praise the club when its warranted. The peformance of the young lads last night hopefully bodes well that we can actually produce some of our own talent for future sales. Whether this is part of a long term agenda remains to be seen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 21:34:05 GMT
Dewhirst sent me a long DM this morning and accused me of using Orwellian language in saying those on here love the club. And that if TCA wants to be taken seriously it needs to moderate its language, keyboard warriors, blah blah... Tell him to go fuck himself.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2020 21:37:15 GMT
Marketing isn't it? We obviously have little if any budget for it, so prominent social media users relaying your messages is a great, and, more importantly free channel. It's also one reason why they want to silence dissenters like us in the manner they have been. Asking for names etc. The labels of abuse, vulgar language, trolling etc. that are always directed at us is a smokescreen; it conveniently covers over that the TCA really does call out bullshit, wether through an official or semi-official channel. If they get rid of us then virtually all the prominent social channels that aren't officially associated with the club tow the party line. Funny thing is, in the world of social media we're not unique in our take on things, there are others who have a similar outlook with their respective sports and sides. Coments aimed at ourselves like ' Go and support someone else' are regular gomper diatribe throughout sanitised football forums. Generally, apart from the odd time where the negativity is not justified, the Cows Arse gets it spot on. Where McKeown regularly points that we could be so helpful to the club, well he's got that right. We're the only ones willing to push some sort of balance, believe it or not we do praise the club when its warranted. The peformance of the young lads last night hopefully bodes well that we can actually produce some of our own talent for future sales. Whether this is part of a long term agenda remains to be seen. Why would you want to sell young talent? Rather than propel the club up the league? Seems a rather shortsighted approach to progression
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Post by Hoochy on Sept 10, 2020 21:44:05 GMT
Funny thing is, in the world of social media we're not unique in our take on things, there are others who have a similar outlook with their respective sports and sides. Coments aimed at ourselves like ' Go and support someone else' are regular gomper diatribe throughout sanitised football forums. Generally, apart from the odd time where the negativity is not justified, the Cows Arse gets it spot on. Where McKeown regularly points that we could be so helpful to the club, well he's got that right. We're the only ones willing to push some sort of balance, believe it or not we do praise the club when its warranted. The peformance of the young lads last night hopefully bodes well that we can actually produce some of our own talent for future sales. Whether this is part of a long term agenda remains to be seen. Why would you want to sell young talent? Rather than propel the club up the league? Seems a rather shortsighted approach to progression A few reasons really. As a lower league club making healthy profit on a player and reinvesting it in the club is a sustainable way of generating income and having promising players. Future sell on clauses can run into millions if you strike it lucky. See McBurnie with us and the lad who's just signed for Villa from Brentford making Exeter rich overnight. If you get a reputation for hoarding these players rather than letting them move on the next batch might be reluctant to sign. You have to take the stance that while here they'll be improving and performing at a level to attract higher clubs so it's a win win for the club providing profits are used wisely.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 10, 2020 22:20:04 GMT
Funny thing is, in the world of social media we're not unique in our take on things, there are others who have a similar outlook with their respective sports and sides. Coments aimed at ourselves like ' Go and support someone else' are regular gomper diatribe throughout sanitised football forums. Generally, apart from the odd time where the negativity is not justified, the Cows Arse gets it spot on. Where McKeown regularly points that we could be so helpful to the club, well he's got that right. We're the only ones willing to push some sort of balance, believe it or not we do praise the club when its warranted. The peformance of the young lads last night hopefully bodes well that we can actually produce some of our own talent for future sales. Whether this is part of a long term agenda remains to be seen. Why would you want to sell young talent? Rather than propel the club up the league? Seems a rather shortsighted approach to progression Unfortunately you have to sell your assets to survive in lower league football if you don't have a sugar daddy propping up the clubs finances, its the nature of the beast. And pretty much every young player wants to play at a higher level as possible, something Bradford cannot guarantee. But that situation isn't unique to City.
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Post by Dick on Oct 25, 2020 8:19:27 GMT
Lol. They're trying so hard not to call anyone a cunt in that latest article. They say what we do - albeit in a different way - and theyre applauded like when Philip Schofield came out. And like when those who applauded Phil ignored the wife he shat on after decades of marriage, WOAP ignor the fundamental workplace rot at the club.
Because, of course, it's quickest and easiest to blame the players.
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