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Jul 19, 2021 18:01:32 GMT
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Post by tetchyarse on Jul 19, 2021 18:01:32 GMT
Vaccine passports Confirmed from end of September for large events and nightclubs. What a fucking joke This won’t withstand any legal challenge. How do the vaccinated on here feel about this measure? It's complete bollocks. I'm double-jabbed and was jabbed early, my second dose was in April. Having the jab doesn't stop you catching Covid or spreading Covid, it stops you getting sick with it. So as a prevention strategy it's fucking useless. As we've seen here. We've just reopened our borders to those with jabs (but only those with jabs) and we've had 1000 new cases in the community in a week. Nobody's in hospital because the vulnerable are vaccinated, so all is well, but it really doesn't stop transmission. Just another shit idea from the Prince of shit ideas. But he's got record approval ratings despite the fact he's as incompetent as he is corrupt, so go figure. Assuming it's more a way of shutting down arguments about the restrictions ending by getting people to argue about instead. After all, they won't need to enforce it. In the meantime, here's a useful little tool I used when I was in the UK a few weeks ago: covid1984.cotswoldtech.com/
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Post by Lofty on Jul 19, 2021 18:12:17 GMT
Despite the fact this is scandalous it just won't work. How much additional manpower is required at venues? What about those who "forget" their phone or don't have a smartphone? Look how easy it is to storm Wembley for example, how would you control crowds?
Also why the fuck is it needed? Where were all the young people seriously ill in hospital last year? It was always about "protect grandma" and if she's now protected with two vaccinations then what does it matter if the grandkids haven't?
Unless of course the vaccine isn't all it's cracked up to be? Or unless this is nothing to do with a virus and all about control.
*Puts tinfoil on head*
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Jul 19, 2021 18:22:35 GMT
Sounds like another Boris Johnson idea that he’s decided to announce without doing any work on how it would work practically, legally or economically. Standard shit tbh, u turn or lockdown by mid august.
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Jul 19, 2021 18:41:20 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 19, 2021 18:41:20 GMT
Despite the fact this is scandalous it just won't work. How much additional manpower is required at venues? What about those who "forget" their phone or don't have a smartphone? Look how easy it is to storm Wembley for example, how would you control crowds? Also why the fuck is it needed? Where were all the young people seriously ill in hospital last year? It was always about "protect grandma" and if she's now protected with two vaccinations then what does it matter if the grandkids haven't? Unless of course the vaccine isn't all it's cracked up to be? Or unless this is nothing to do with a virus and all about control. *Puts tinfoil on head* Its never been about a virus
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Post by hammstrasse on Jul 19, 2021 19:16:53 GMT
But if you're double jabbed, and with double jabbed people you can't get Covid, isn't that right Sajid Javid?
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Post by jdc on Jul 19, 2021 20:04:50 GMT
I was happy to take the vaccine but I don't agree with it being mandatory.
I'm against mandatory vaccines on principle but with these vaccines and this virus there are practical reasons too. For a start: current vaccines don't seem to be much good at preventing transmission especially of the variants so vaccinating younger people might not protect others; the risk/benefit for younger people isn't that clear-cut; people need to be able to trust the healthcare system and any kind of coercion to take a vaccine isn't going to be helpful; then there's enforcement - as Lofty said how do you police it?
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Jul 19, 2021 21:10:14 GMT
Post by Neshead on Jul 19, 2021 21:10:14 GMT
Vaccine passports Confirmed from end of September for large events and nightclubs. What a fucking joke This won’t withstand any legal challenge. How do the vaccinated on here feel about this measure? Well i had one jab and i'm currently fucked. Feel like i've taken a jab off Harold Shipman. Currently a bit suscpicious about how good it is.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Jul 20, 2021 10:50:11 GMT
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Jul 20, 2021 21:49:35 GMT
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Post by edin on Jul 20, 2021 21:49:35 GMT
Vaccine passports Confirmed from end of September for large events and nightclubs. What a fucking joke This won’t withstand any legal challenge. How do the vaccinated on here feel about this measure? should be down to free choice. Want it, take it, don't want it then don't have it. We're all adults and able to choose what stance we take, we're able to compute the pros and cons it's absolutely ridiculous and akin to something Hitler would like
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Jul 20, 2021 21:52:04 GMT
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Post by edin on Jul 20, 2021 21:52:04 GMT
Sounds like another Boris Johnson idea that he’s decided to announce without doing any work on how it would work practically, legally or economically. Standard shit tbh, u turn or lockdown by mid august. it'll be about making a pal a few million
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 21, 2021 17:34:02 GMT
Any minuscule, lingering thoughts I might have had about getting vaccinated have evaporated and the more of this shit the pull the happier I am with my choice. Boris Johnson is a prize cunt.
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Jul 21, 2021 18:20:08 GMT
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Post by Lofty on Jul 21, 2021 18:20:08 GMT
Any minuscule, lingering thoughts I might have had about getting vaccinated have evaporated and the more of this shit the pull the happier I am with my choice. Boris Johnson is a prize cunt. Same. What's the end game though? I still don't understand. It's gone from "vaccinate the elderly and vulnerable" to "if you don't get vaccinated you can't do anything". Why? And don't use this bullshit pandemic as a reason. I'm a fit 38 year old, my chances of serious illness or hospitalisation are pretty much zero.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 21, 2021 18:51:49 GMT
What’s the end game? Well every step of the journey we’re seeing is bang on the money of the ‘new world order’ conspiracy that the likes of David Icke have been shouting about for years. It’s easily dismissed by many as a fantasy, but I really don’t know why. We’re heading to a very dark place, and many of the masses are lapping it up, too blind to see what’s actually happening.
So the end game will be a dystopian world, where everyone bar the 1% has a social credit score dictating where they can go, what they can buy, who they can see, owns nothing of material asset value, is utterly subservient, in a cashless society and where the digital and physical ecosystems we live in are fused - people take the piss about being ‘microchipped by Bill Gates’. It sounds fantastical - but the technology is out there to absolutely lead us to a place where AI is literally integrated into humans.
Put is this way - we’re all fucked, and we’ll never know proper freedom again. If we no longer have a freedom of choice over our own bodies and the medical procedures we elect to take, we have freedom over nothing. Freedom of speech is pretty much gone anyway, and I see today that new legislation is being proposed to hand out prison sentences of up to 14 years for journalists who publish stories that ‘embarrass the government’. So, no free press either - which also only exists by exception now anyway too. But imagine that - a journo gets wind of a PM who’s committed a criminal act and if they publish, they go to jail.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 21, 2021 19:05:15 GMT
Any minuscule, lingering thoughts I might have had about getting vaccinated have evaporated and the more of this shit the pull the happier I am with my choice. Boris Johnson is a prize cunt. Same. What's the end game though? I still don't understand. It's gone from "vaccinate the elderly and vulnerable" to "if you don't get vaccinated you can't do anything". Why? And don't use this bullshit pandemic as a reason. I'm a fit 38 year old, my chances of serious illness or hospitalisation are pretty much zero. Control. It’s all I’ve got to offer as it makes no sense to me. All I do know is this shit is starting to get pretty fucking sinister.
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Jul 21, 2021 19:07:17 GMT
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Post by Lofty on Jul 21, 2021 19:07:17 GMT
Same. What's the end game though? I still don't understand. It's gone from "vaccinate the elderly and vulnerable" to "if you don't get vaccinated you can't do anything". Why? And don't use this bullshit pandemic as a reason. I'm a fit 38 year old, my chances of serious illness or hospitalisation are pretty much zero. Control. It’s all I’ve got to offer as it makes no sense to me. All I do know is this shit is starting to get pretty fucking sinister. It's turning people against each other in a similar way that Brexit did. People who I've told I'm not getting the vaccine have certainly changed how they are with me.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 21, 2021 19:09:24 GMT
I reckon they’ll eventually double the Covid jab up not only with the flu one but with ones like TB too to improve ‘take up’ amongst kids. It’ll be done under the pretence of saving the NHS by cutting costs and it’ll make parents choose between allowing their kids to be injected with a vaccine they don’t need and is higher in risk than the virus or miss out on one they really do.
The obsession with getting this vaccine into as many people as possible, way more than they ever needed to, is odd.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 21, 2021 19:26:21 GMT
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Jul 21, 2021 19:32:19 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 21, 2021 19:32:19 GMT
I reckon they’ll eventually double the Covid jab up not only with the flu one but with ones like TB too to improve ‘take up’ amongst kids. It’ll be done under the pretence of saving the NHS by cutting costs and it’ll make parents choose between allowing their kids to be injected with a vaccine they don’t need and is higher in risk than the virus or miss out on one they really do. The obsession with getting this vaccine into as many people as possible, way more than they ever needed to, is odd. Once the covid passport system is embedded, the next big push will be about boosters. Unless you get your booster shot, your passport will expire. Its a license to keep pumping you with whatever they fucking want, indefinitely. The narrative is already being set with the talk of variants that evade the vaccine, and limited immunity, or protection being good but not great - check out how many hospitalised people have been vaccinated, so we need to do more etc. Thank fuck I didn't buy an ST, because despite being vaccinated, I won't go anywhere that needs a vaccine passport, and I'm deadly fucking serious. Its choice time - what world do you want your kids to live in?
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 21, 2021 19:40:22 GMT
I reckon they’ll eventually double the Covid jab up not only with the flu one but with ones like TB too to improve ‘take up’ amongst kids. It’ll be done under the pretence of saving the NHS by cutting costs and it’ll make parents choose between allowing their kids to be injected with a vaccine they don’t need and is higher in risk than the virus or miss out on one they really do. The obsession with getting this vaccine into as many people as possible, way more than they ever needed to, is odd. Once the covid passport system is embedded, the next big push will be about boosters. Unless you get your booster shot, your passport will expire. Its a license to keep pumping you with whatever they fucking want, indefinitely. The narrative is already being set with the talk of variants that evade the vaccine, and limited immunity, or protection being good but not great - check out how many hospitalised people have been vaccinated, so we need to do more etc. Thank fuck I didn't buy an ST, because despite being vaccinated, I won't go anywhere that needs a vaccine passport, and I'm deadly fucking serious. Its choice time - what world do you want your kids to live in? Ur being selfish m8. It’s just a jab etc etc. And on the vaccine passports and tracking apps, can I be the first fuckwitt in with a ‘if you’ve got nothing to hide, you’ve got nothing to fear’?
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Jul 21, 2021 22:07:59 GMT
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Post by tommycairns on Jul 21, 2021 22:07:59 GMT
I reckon they’ll eventually double the Covid jab up not only with the flu one but with ones like TB too to improve ‘take up’ amongst kids. It’ll be done under the pretence of saving the NHS by cutting costs and it’ll make parents choose between allowing their kids to be injected with a vaccine they don’t need and is higher in risk than the virus or miss out on one they really do. The obsession with getting this vaccine into as many people as possible, way more than they ever needed to, is odd. Once the covid passport system is embedded, the next big push will be about boosters. Unless you get your booster shot, your passport will expire. Its a license to keep pumping you with whatever they fucking want, indefinitely. The narrative is already being set with the talk of variants that evade the vaccine, and limited immunity, or protection being good but not great - check out how many hospitalised people have been vaccinated, so we need to do more etc. Thank fuck I didn't buy an ST, because despite being vaccinated, I won't go anywhere that needs a vaccine passport, and I'm deadly fucking serious. Its choice time - what world do you want your kids to live in? Hi, I'm a fairly new member here and haven't been privvy to the intricacies of this debate from the very beginning. Do you mind if I ask why you got vaccinated mate? I was surprised to read an earlier comment of yours regarding the great British hero David Icke and I'm assuming that you've read his stuff and you're clearly mature enough not to dismiss that great body of work of his just because the Queen being a lizard doesn't compute through your conditioning. So aye, respectfully, why would you put that toxic shit into your body?
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