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Post by Bacon on Dec 31, 2018 11:18:35 GMT
Guaranteed way to see his cruciate ligaments snapped like perished rubber bands.
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Post by Nice boy on Dec 31, 2018 11:56:09 GMT
Yeah fair point. I’d have no problem with a longer term contract - bottom line is, with a level of ambition there’s a deal to be had, and it’s the perfect opportunity to invest in quality with a high likelihood of resale value. His Agent will be pushing for a shorter term contract with a few to moving him on within 18 months. Sadly I think we'll miss out if that is the level of his wages. especially due to the amount of financial waste we have within the squad.
However as we have said, Rupp could easily make his money back on him and I mean all his money not just the outlay for Payne
I think you might be overestimating Payne's sell on value. What he's doing now is nothing new. He's always been a class above at this level and he's always scored goals too. Despite this, there were still no teams who wanted him permanently in the summer, mainly because there aren't many league 1 teams who can afford him and Championship teams are reluctant to take him on as he's failed to establish himself as at that level. It reminds me a bit of the "bite the bullet" argument many of our fans put forward for Josh Cullen. Pay a £1M for him now and you'll sell him for double in a couple of years. That doesn't look like happening anytime soon and it highlights the financial risk in assuming that all young, excellent league 1 players get sold on for big bucks. I can see a lower end Championship team coming in for him but perhaps for about 500k rather than millions.
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Dec 31, 2018 12:02:16 GMT
His Agent will be pushing for a shorter term contract with a few to moving him on within 18 months. Sadly I think we'll miss out if that is the level of his wages. especially due to the amount of financial waste we have within the squad.
However as we have said, Rupp could easily make his money back on him and I mean all his money not just the outlay for Payne
I think you might be overestimating Payne's sell on value. What he's doing now is nothing new. He's always been a class above at this level and he's always scored goals too. Despite this, there were still no teams who wanted him permanently in the summer, mainly because there aren't many league 1 teams who can afford him and Championship teams are reluctant to take him on as he's failed to establish himself as at that level. It reminds me a bit of the "bite the bullet" argument many of our fans put forward for Josh Cullen. Pay a £1M for him now and you'll sell him for double in a couple of years. That doesn't look like happening anytime soon and it highlights the financial risk in assuming that all young, excellent league 1 players get sold on for big bucks. I can see a lower end Championship team coming in for him but perhaps for about 500k rather than millions. Yes I'm making assumptions here that we will eventually get promoted and he makes the step up like Dack.. which right now looks as far away as it ever has since been back in league one
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 31, 2018 12:31:41 GMT
His Agent will be pushing for a shorter term contract with a few to moving him on within 18 months. Sadly I think we'll miss out if that is the level of his wages. especially due to the amount of financial waste we have within the squad.
However as we have said, Rupp could easily make his money back on him and I mean all his money not just the outlay for Payne
I think you might be overestimating Payne's sell on value. What he's doing now is nothing new. He's always been a class above at this level and he's always scored goals too. Despite this, there were still no teams who wanted him permanently in the summer, mainly because there aren't many league 1 teams who can afford him and Championship teams are reluctant to take him on as he's failed to establish himself as at that level. It reminds me a bit of the "bite the bullet" argument many of our fans put forward for Josh Cullen. Pay a £1M for him now and you'll sell him for double in a couple of years. That doesn't look like happening anytime soon and it highlights the financial risk in assuming that all young, excellent league 1 players get sold on for big bucks. I can see a lower end Championship team coming in for him but perhaps for about 500k rather than millions. Can’t you just let me have a wank about this one in peace?
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Post by Lofty on Dec 31, 2018 14:22:36 GMT
His Agent will be pushing for a shorter term contract with a few to moving him on within 18 months. Sadly I think we'll miss out if that is the level of his wages. especially due to the amount of financial waste we have within the squad.
However as we have said, Rupp could easily make his money back on him and I mean all his money not just the outlay for Payne
I think you might be overestimating Payne's sell on value. What he's doing now is nothing new. He's always been a class above at this level and he's always scored goals too. Despite this, there were still no teams who wanted him permanently in the summer, mainly because there aren't many league 1 teams who can afford him and Championship teams are reluctant to take him on as he's failed to establish himself as at that level. It reminds me a bit of the "bite the bullet" argument many of our fans put forward for Josh Cullen. Pay a £1M for him now and you'll sell him for double in a couple of years. That doesn't look like happening anytime soon and it highlights the financial risk in assuming that all young, excellent league 1 players get sold on for big bucks. I can see a lower end Championship team coming in for him but perhaps for about 500k rather than millions. I get your point but Payne and Cullen are different animals. Payne scores and assists so will always attract interest due to him standing out. Cullen was quietly efficient and anyone outside of Bradford wouldn't have heard of him.
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Post by BingomoanyBob on Jan 4, 2019 8:09:01 GMT
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Post by slymutha on Jan 4, 2019 8:52:41 GMT
But don't worry, we have Omari back in the building and the option of McCarthan too. Payne who???
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Post by fish on Jan 4, 2019 9:16:38 GMT
Well that's relegation confirmed then.
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Post by Bacon on Jan 4, 2019 9:19:10 GMT
Well that's relegation confirmed then.
Overdramatic? You?
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Post by fish on Jan 4, 2019 9:51:49 GMT
Well that's relegation confirmed then.
Overdramatic? You?
we'll go from comfortably scoring 2 or 3 goals per game to struggling to score 1 if Payne goes. He is THAT important to how we play and there is absolutely no chance we are going to be able to replace him with the anywhere near the same quality. Goals dry up and suddenly the defence comes under more pressure and we all know how shite and unreliable that lot are. So what's the outcome? League fucking 2.
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 4, 2019 9:56:40 GMT
we'll go from comfortably scoring 2 or 3 goals per game to struggling to score 1 if Payne goes. He is THAT important to how we play and there is absolutely no chance we are going to be able to replace him with the anywhere near the same quality. Goals dry up and suddenly the defence comes under more pressure and we all know how shite and unreliable that lot are. So what's the outcome? League fucking 2. Yeah, this is my worry. My hope is that Rupp gets his cock out and slaps it on Hoyle's desk. 'How much do you want? We're keeping Payne you dog bothering cunt'. Something like that.
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Post by Neshead on Jan 4, 2019 10:15:42 GMT
we'll go from comfortably scoring 2 or 3 goals per game to struggling to score 1 if Payne goes. He is THAT important to how we play and there is absolutely no chance we are going to be able to replace him with the anywhere near the same quality. Goals dry up and suddenly the defence comes under more pressure and we all know how shite and unreliable that lot are. So what's the outcome? League fucking 2. Yeah, this is my worry. My hope is that Rupp gets his cock out and slaps it on Hoyle's desk. 'How much do you want? We're keeping Payne you dog bothering cunt'. Something like that. Time to get your cock out Stefan.
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Post by Dick on Jan 4, 2019 10:28:53 GMT
For all the jerking off and the talk of doing a Barnsley and going on a promotion run we're still a bad swing of weekend results next week from dropping back to 23rd.
Pay for quality to keep us up, or the alternatives are bringing back Mcartan whose desperate to burn his bridges or pinning your hopes on someone else to come in and hit the ground running.
We dust don't have time to let someone else get up to speed.
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Post by skybantam on Jan 4, 2019 12:01:49 GMT
We should be doing our utmost to keep Payne but it’s probably out of our hands. It’s extremely concerning, the prospect of losing him. We are still in a huge relegation fight. Maybe not back to square one if he goes, but it’s going to have a huge impact negatively. McCartan doesn’t strike me as wanting to be at City, even if he was anywhere near Payne’s standard, which he isn’t. We are what we are, a club not capable of buying and owning players of Payne’s calibre any more. If we can’t even keep him when it’s clear he might be the difference in going down or staying up, then it’s never going to happen. Fair play, he’s used his time to put himself in the shop window, he’s just out of our league by the looks of it, maybe he wants away, championship rather than league 1 is more appealing.
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Post by Dick on Jan 4, 2019 12:16:23 GMT
You can't really complain if he goes to the CH, even the arse end of it. Even L1 if someone puts in a decent bid for him.
It'd just be a killer if he goes to somewhere else in L1 on loan. Maybe if that sort of offer does come in he'll think back to what happened last year and be put off by it.
But I won't have any sort of unprepared excuse from the club like we would have had under Rahic.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jan 4, 2019 12:21:24 GMT
We've just announced a new sponsorship for a new boardroom with JCT. I smell a bit of cooking the books, cash injection just as we need to go all out for Payne. Wouldn't be surprised if Rhodes and Rupp have gone cap in hand to Tordoff
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 4, 2019 12:39:02 GMT
We've just announced a new sponsorship for a new boardroom with JCT. I smell a bit of cooking the books, cash injection just as we need to go all out for Payne. Wouldn't be surprised if Rhodes and Rupp have gone cap in hand to Tordoff Too right. I'd have that all day long. We need to drum up cash from wherever we can - Payne would be a true investment.
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Post by Hoochy on Jan 4, 2019 12:39:12 GMT
We've just announced a new sponsorship for a new boardroom with JCT. I smell a bit of cooking the books, cash injection just as we need to go all out for Payne. Wouldn't be surprised if Rhodes and Rupp have gone cap in hand to Tordoff Rupp can't go cap in hand, he's loaded.
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Jan 4, 2019 12:46:14 GMT
We've just announced a new sponsorship for a new boardroom with JCT. I smell a bit of cooking the books, cash injection just as we need to go all out for Payne. Wouldn't be surprised if Rhodes and Rupp have gone cap in hand to Tordoff I want what you're on please Enid!
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Post by Fat Ade on Jan 4, 2019 12:58:39 GMT
If Payne goes to another League One club then they need to hang their heads. I couldn't give a fuck which club it is, guaranteed to be in Championship next season blah blah blah, money talks and if we get pipped to the post because of wages (which essentially is all Payne will care about) then I would only conclude that it is yet another empty apology.
If he ends up in the Championship, then there isn't a lot we can do about that but another League One club then its simply a no.
This would have all been a lot less costly if Stefan wasn't asleep at the wheel in the first place and if he does want to "fix it", the only sign that it is fully fixed is when we are back to knocking around the playoffs as if both him and Enid had never stepped foot in Bradford.
At some point if there is a serious desire to kick on, they will have to invest and probably heavily.
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