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Post by Lofty on May 17, 2018 5:42:37 GMT
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Post by ricksanchez on May 17, 2018 5:57:07 GMT
“We can’t compare our budget with that of Wigan, Blackburn or Sunderland so we have to find other ways to compete. That’s a fact. If we have a head coach who can develop our players, we can increase the value of the squad. This way, we can find our own way of competing against these big budgets."
Dream on dickhead, if only it was that simple.
"We will not take the massive risk to invest too much money in the playing budget. However, we will have a competitive* team, no doubt."
We already know that they won't put a penny of their own money into the club, so that line is scary given our low income due to cheap STs. Add to the fact ST sales are significantly down, it's even scarier.
*competitive is in the eye of the beholder isn't it? For Rahic he thought last season's squad was capable of top 2.
Strap in for the pre-season horror show, gents.
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Post by jose on May 17, 2018 6:13:50 GMT
Agreed. Lump on some unproven shite.
"We have learnt from the mistakes"
*changes nothing*
Jesus.
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Post by Dick on May 17, 2018 6:29:14 GMT
Here we go again. The plan is to do something morally right (develop young players) and have seemingly based this on hope (rather than actual investment in staff and facilities).
There must be some real names on that list who are prepared to come here, work to a shit budget and have to develop and sell on players to keep things going.
We're fortunate someone here knows about football because we're obviously all just a load of thick cunts.
And there's the line again about playing entertaining football. Yes, because players who can do that just fall out of the sky to clubs that don't spend money.
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Post by Hobhead on May 17, 2018 6:38:35 GMT
Something I’ve often wondered is just how much a coach is responsible for a player’s improvement and how much of it is firstly down to natural talent and secondly down to simply maturing and experiencing more games against better players as they go. I doubt there’s a particularly large percentage of a player’s improvement can be put down to a coach and if it could that coach would be in high demand.
And just to concur with everyone else; we’re fucked. Going backwards at a rate of knots hoping against hope that a reject from the likes of Barnsley will come good, sell on and give us a decent budget for one summer in the future.
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Post by Hobhead on May 17, 2018 6:40:47 GMT
I’m getting the word, ‘Hockaday’.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on May 17, 2018 6:59:06 GMT
MASSIVE CUNT!!!
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Post by bantam147 on May 17, 2018 7:23:37 GMT
I fucking called this a couple of weeks ago.
‘Lessons learned’
People hoped that was a nod to their recognition that their model and approach was misguided and needed to be reigned in. But I said that the lesson they’d probably taken from last season was that they needed to go FURTHER in implementing their model.
They’re going full retard.
We’ll get exactly what we deserve next season.
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Post by Dick on May 17, 2018 7:49:48 GMT
Got to admit, this post from bantam talk makes a good point -
'I think the type of coach we are looking for is not usual in League One' - probably because he doesn't exist edin. After all you want him to achieve promotion whilst trying to develop substandard league 1/2 players and bringing a few kids up from the u21s all on a shoestring. Come on, seriously? If it were that easy you'd see the other 71 football league clubs doing it.
Edin rahic is the epitome of delusion.
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Post by Hobhead on May 17, 2018 7:53:35 GMT
So, now we need to use this to turn a quid. We know we’re getting a no-mark manager who’ll do as he’s told on a restricted brief so it has to be somebody who’ll be so pleased to get the job they’re prepared to forego a bit of self respect and personal principles to work under Edin’s model. With this in mind we can forget about the Warburtons and start looking more seriously at the Cathros. Any other shithouses in the running who really shouldn’t be?
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Post by Ricc on May 17, 2018 9:27:18 GMT
A complete nobody as coach and kids in the first team. We’re going down. These cunts have learned fuck all.
The kraut fuckers need to get the fuck out before it’s too late.
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Post by Hobhead on May 17, 2018 9:44:02 GMT
A complete nobody as coach and kids in the first team. We’re going down. These cunts have learned fuck all. The kraut fuckers need to get the fuck out before it’s too late. Ey up, someone’s tired.
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Post by jose on May 17, 2018 11:24:32 GMT
It's a real worry isn't it when someone has principles and a philosophy but despite all evidence to the contrary, dispelling their principles are unworkable or indeed, horse shit. They don't change their outlook.
Delusional almost.
There is no evidence that promotes the view of how they / Edin plans to run things, which then leaves you wondering why he's going down this road.... Inherited a great set up with PP and then Stuart McC with the clear signs of a squad being put together by the manager to win games and gain promotion.
However in the last 6 months or so, probably back to last Summer in the origins, we haven't seen progression at all. Lost a number of players out of contract and didn't replace with quality. Admittedly spent some money but on players that haven't delivered....
Noise was relatively low as Stuart delivered a side that was winning but then as things slowed down, we looked to the owners to provide some statement of intent. A bit like when they signed Wyke to spearhead a promotion push the year before, but they signed McGowan (that's all) with the others all loanees including one who was 36 years old and has now retired. Doesn't look like it's long term.... At all. Where's the plan there?
Season dies away, they get rid of a manager when the signs are all that it's the system, budgets and the fact we're wasting £xx per week on a development squad despite having no academy and just having to loan them to Harrogate Town and whoever else. We regressed last season, first season in two we haven't reached the play offs and that's down to the owners as they're making their own decisions now.
To say 'lessons will be learned' then provide no evidence to the contrary, more of the same and Edin openly signing players adds fuel to the fire as/when it goes wrong. The squad isn't good enough and starting to sign players from bigger clubs to sell on, develop and seemingly forgetting about promotion is pointless. What's the incentive of a season ticket? If it was so easy, they'd all be doing it. It only works if the side performs, no good having a striker from Man City who you think is good, but is in a crap side.....
They may as well push the price up to £300 and just get the die hards in, as without a team to push on, then the lower price model doesn't work as you lose ST holders (like we have) then there's no £20 on the day people coming in as the team is performing poorly.
A worry.
What were the mistakes perhaps would be the starting point? What did they think needed changing? As nothing has changed at all. Unless they think the mistakes were that Edin wasn't signing who he wanted....
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on May 17, 2018 11:30:51 GMT
I'm happy, they're adopting a model that will ensure we have a [low in the football pyramid] club to support.
Oh, and I haven't renewed...
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Post by Fat Ade on May 17, 2018 11:42:24 GMT
So as we head into the third year of the three year plan, a plan that will only be considered a success if we end up getting promoted as publically stated by R&R, we now have this interview.
It's all pie in the sky stuff, get players in as rough diamonds and polish them up so that they can be flogged for a huge profit....EDIN ITS NOT GOING TO WORK!
"It's not all about getting promoted" tells everyone what they need to know and what the majority already do...they are here to make money no matter what. Is that wrong? No. Is steam rolling every bit of foundation built up over the last five years to do so wrong? I would say yes and also incredibly idiotic!
All the interview said over and over again was the need to make a profit from selling players...as was said at the time of the takeover, all that means is a fat bank account (I am not so sure why that is a good thing for fans) and a team treading water at best.
It's utter bollocks and I'm the fucking mug who renewed, essentially buying back into their view of utopia.
RAHIC OUT
RUPP OUT
Set of clueless cunts.
One thing is for certain, I am done!
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Post by Hoochy on May 17, 2018 11:54:24 GMT
So we just need to find a guy to coach some young players, play some attractive football, improve the players and compete for top 6. Simple.
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Post by citygentile on May 17, 2018 15:05:43 GMT
So we just need to find a guy to coach some young players, play some attractive football, improve the players and compete for top 6. Simple. Not forgetting doing all of the above whilst having Edin breathing down his neck and questioning his every move. I hope they're paying whoever comes in a fair old screw, because he'll fucking deserve it. Squad morale will continue to be shit, because it's pretty obvious that the players think he's a cunt. Decent experienced players won't sign, because word will have got around that he's a nightmare to work for. They'll be stuck with kids and castoffs floating in the shit pool. The next gaffer will be gone by the time the year ends and they're hovering around the bottom 3 is my guess, if not before. It won't be Edin's fault though, whoever it is won't live up to his high (unrealistic, bordering on impossible) expectations.
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Post by Nice boy on May 17, 2018 15:59:21 GMT
I think Edin is underestimating the amount of players aged between 20-25 who actually improve ability wise. The majority find their level early on in their careers and stay there. We aren't going to manufacture average league 1 footballers into the next big thing simply through coaching. All professional footballers get coached.
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Post by bantam147 on May 17, 2018 16:02:06 GMT
Good players aged between 20-25, good enough to play in a strong league one side and with the potential to play at a higher level? And willing to play for mid table league one salaries? And available on a free?
Yeah, they’ll be like apples on a fucking tree.
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Post by Neshead on May 17, 2018 16:39:37 GMT
Good players aged between 20-25, good enough to play in a strong league one side and with the potential to play at a higher level? And willing to play for mid table league one salaries? And available on a free? Yeah, they’ll be like apples on a fucking tree. Hanging off trees like fucking crab apples they are. The plan is so easy i can't believe all the other clubs have missed the obvious, take young lads not wanted by other clubs and make them better players. It's ingenious. Don't bother with your expensive signing malarkey, spend fuck all and pay peanuts for wages. We'll be in the champions league in three years.
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