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Post by fish on Jun 16, 2018 22:16:55 GMT
Nah not 500k. There's no way another club would sell us a 15-20 goal a season striker for 500k. And according to Mr Iknowfootball, the replacement can't cost more than the original player was sold for. I'd rather we kept him and let him go for free If McMahon was on penalty duty he'd have finished with 12 league goals and 3 of those were in one game. Basically think James Hanson. I do think he has it in him to score regularly but he goes missing for large parts of the season too frequently for it to be a possibility at the moment. You could argue that he didn't get much service but I also remember him being completely useless during the back end of our Wembley season, where he offered absolutley nothing. No coincidence. I'm not sure who we would bring in as his replacement but 500k for a club like us is about 25% of our budget. Is that what his worth is at the moment? I'd argue not. I get your points but for 500k we wouldn't get anyone as good as Wyke never mind better. And any decent free agent would demand more than the peanuts rahic pays
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Jun 17, 2018 8:54:58 GMT
I don't know anything about this wolf chap. I know it wont be him.
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Post by Hoochy on Jun 17, 2018 9:09:26 GMT
I don't know anything about this wolf chap. I know it wont be him. Having read this surely his stock is way too high for a 3rd tier English side.
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Post by Nice boy on Jun 17, 2018 9:15:42 GMT
A poster from BT. He's convinced it's Ferguson:
"Further to what I posted the other day, we have apparently been looking at Ferguson since around March time. Edin liked the way he has brought in youngsters at Donny and has kept them in the league. And also see his previous work with Peterborough.
The owners knew if Grayson didn’t sign they needed a back up and Fergie looks to be that man.
Now the reason for the delay is if we snapped him up immediately after resigning from Donny they would have sought some form of compensation and City are not willing to pay any. By delaying it we can say he became available and we started talking but it’s possible his head was turned? "
He is consulting with the club on players and plans and as I said the other day it should be done early this week.
As I said will hold my hands up if it’s wrong but taken from same source as previously."
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Jun 17, 2018 9:26:07 GMT
I reckon that's bullshit purely on the basis that it mentions planning since March.
1. Three months planning is more planning than Rahic has done for anything since arriving. 2. That story gives convenient wiggle room when Ferguson isn't in place next week. 3. Who the fuck plans for three months and decides Darren Ferguson is the answer to their problems? 4. Rahic is going to be manager.
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Post by Hobhead on Jun 17, 2018 9:31:23 GMT
Imagine sacking McCall then taking a decade to appoint Ferguson. Knowing football.
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Post by Nice boy on Jun 17, 2018 9:43:30 GMT
Imagine sacking McCall then taking a decade to appoint Ferguson. Knowing football. I know nothing about him but what's wrong with Ferguson? I quick look at his Wikipedia page tells me he has 3 promotions on his record.
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Post by mikehunt on Jun 17, 2018 9:57:49 GMT
I’m not sure what’s the motivation for Ferguson. Won’t be money, there are other clubs who are surely a more attractive proposition, bigger budget, less interference from the chairman and so on. Gets us promoted on a shoestring with a team of U23’s it’s not going to enhance his reputation that much surely? He’ll not be suddenly on the list of every top Championship club.
I can see Edin lapping it up if Darren’s Dad pitches up at VP, he has his photo taken with him and gets to bounce his football ideas off him.
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Post by Hobhead on Jun 17, 2018 10:01:23 GMT
Imagine sacking McCall then taking a decade to appoint Ferguson. Knowing football. I know nothing about him but what's wrong with Ferguson? I quick look at his Wikipedia page tells me he has 3 promotions on his record. He's a pretty average lower league manager and not really what you'd expect given all Uncle Edin's rhetoric about how important this appointment is and how we have to get this one right. It would just be another example of Edin's words and actions being in opposition. As for Ferguson's promotions (and without Googling) I think he was heavily backed for each of them. While it's still an achievement he's not about to be backed at City. The biggest problem would be the usual: he's a manager and not a coach. If we're going back down this contrary route again I don't really see the point of sacking McCall since we've swapped one man that doesn't fit the model for another.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jun 17, 2018 10:07:02 GMT
I already had a tenner on Wolf but I think he's too big of a name to come to us. There's too much noise about Ferguson and it's probably the cheapest shittest option Radish could go for and his ego will be desperate to meet Fergie snr and telk him how much he knows about football.
So I have slung 20 quid on Fergie ( the shit one)
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Post by fish on Jun 17, 2018 10:08:27 GMT
If we've been eyeing up Ferguson since March then edin is even more of a clueless fucker than I thought
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Post by Nice boy on Jun 17, 2018 10:15:09 GMT
I know nothing about him but what's wrong with Ferguson? I quick look at his Wikipedia page tells me he has 3 promotions on his record. He's a pretty average lower league manager and not really what you'd expect given all Uncle Edin's rhetoric about how important this appointment is and how we have to get this one right. It would just be another example of Edin's words and actions being in opposition. As for Ferguson's promotions (and without Googling) I think he was heavily backed for each of them. While it's still an achievement he's not about to be backed at City. The biggest problem would be the usual: he's a manager and not a coach. If we're going back down this contrary route again I don't really see the point of sacking McCall since we've swapped one man that doesn't fit the model for another. Peterborough have had large budgets in recent seasons and have finished midtable in all of them, so Ferguson must have something about him. Ironically, one of those midtable finishes was with McCann in charge, someone who our fans would have been happy with had we signed him. I agree with the point of him being a manager and not a headcoach. For the first two seasons our owners were neither here or there with their model. We were sort of implementing it but we weren't really. The early signs suggest that we now committing to it so you'd hope that Ferguson would know the full brief before agreeing to work under Rahic, whereas I could imagine McCall being given mixed messages about his role- hence the eventual fallout. Either that or Rahic was concerned with the amount of time it was taking to find a credible coach and ended up making a panic appointment.
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Post by bantam147 on Jun 17, 2018 10:52:03 GMT
I think that’s bollocks. Fannying about because of compo. What would it be, 50k? I don’t see them being too fussed about that. I think they’ve fannied about and we’ll end up with whoever we end up with. And from Ferguson’s point of view, what’s the appea? We’re not really any more geared up for success than Donny.
I’d be very ‘meh’ about Ferguson. The only appeal would be the chance he could tap into his old man for a couple of good young lads on loan. I’d take that henderson kid in goal for a season, though they may expect him to go to the championship to test him at a higher level.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Jun 17, 2018 11:22:30 GMT
I think that’s bollocks. Fannying about because of compo. What would it be, 50k? I don’t see them being too fussed about that. I think they’ve fannied about and we’ll end up with whoever we end up with. And from Ferguson’s point of view, what’s the appea? We’re not really any more geared up for success than Donny. I’d be very ‘meh’ about Ferguson. The only appeal would be the chance he could tap into his old man for a couple of good young sexy boys on loan. I’d take that henderson kid in goal for a season, though they may expect him to go to the championship to test him at a higher level. Good point about compensation. Rahic has shown he's happy to spend Rupps money on fees, but not on wages. He's an accountant by trade and he's sticking to his separate budget lines.
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Post by billycasper on Jun 17, 2018 11:42:33 GMT
It'll be a totally underwhelming appointment in my opinion.
We've gone from wanting an up and coming young coach to a been around the block tranditional manager.
I'm still convinced that Rahic just makes it up as he goes along.
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Post by billycasper on Jun 17, 2018 11:44:36 GMT
If we've been eyeing up Ferguson since March then edin is even more of a clueless fucker than I thought He's trying to convince the gompers it's all part of his masterplan.
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Post by benitocarbone on Jun 17, 2018 11:54:50 GMT
I don’t rate Ferguson, I never have. He always seems to have had money to spend when he’s been successful and that’s apparently why he’s left Donny. I don’t particularly like him either, he always comes across as an arrogant Tophat and isn’t he a wife beater? The only reason for Edin appointing him is if he thinks that it gives him a way to “mix with the elite”.
However, I dont necessarily agree with this idea that he’s a manager and not a coach. At Posh he worked with DMac who must be one of the most hands on chairmen in the league and Barry Fry who is probably the equivalent of Abbo there.
I’d rather have Wolf for a whole host of reasons but I think that he’s unrealistic.
That’s just my two pence worth.
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Post by moshimoshi on Jun 17, 2018 12:16:16 GMT
Can’t see it being Ferguson. Not a coach, doesn’t play the football ol Edin wants either.
Can’t see if being Wolf either. German D1 to English third tier? Seems unlikely. Only ever linked because he got the boot around the same time as McCall and he’s german.
More likely some lower league shit kicker from Germany. Maybe a first team coach, or assistant that fancies a crack at the big time. I’m almost certain I’ll be disappointed but I’m just sick of waiting now. Thank fuck for the world cup
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Post by Bacon on Jun 17, 2018 12:57:40 GMT
Someone wants to mention his spousal abuse conviction on BT, see how the hand wringing gompers take to that.
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Post by fish on Jun 17, 2018 13:03:54 GMT
Can’t see it being Ferguson. Not a coach, doesn’t play the football ol Edin wants either. Can’t see if being Wolf either. German D1 to English third tier? Seems unlikely. Only ever linked because he got the boot around the same time as McCall and he’s german. More likely some lower league shit kicker from Germany. Maybe a first team coach, or assistant that fancies a crack at the big time. I’m almost certain I’ll be disappointed but I’m just sick of waiting now. Thank fuck for the world cup I wouldn't be surprised of it's him. He'll be cheap, uninspiring and probably keep us in the division. And also a complete contradiction of what Edin wanted, which makes it more likely That's the best we can hope for right now.
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