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Post by Hobhead on Mar 21, 2021 10:25:59 GMT
Cashed out my promotion bet for a £7 loss. Not this year but with a bit of tinkering next year looks good. We’d have to take the fucking handbrake off though. I’m sick to fuck of overly cautious football. Given the players and no excuses I really want to see us start waving our cocks for once. The players ain't good enough as the squad stands. It looks that way but I don’t think we’re a million miles off. A right back, a good quality midfielder or two and a quick reshaping of the front line and we’re a different prospect. We need to be tactically more expansive with that rebuild though. There’s no point building a team to win games if we’re going to set up to not lose.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 21, 2021 10:40:38 GMT
The players ain't good enough as the squad stands. It looks that way but I don’t think we’re a million miles off. A right back, a good quality midfielder or two and a quick reshaping of the front line and we’re a different prospect. We need to be tactically more expansive with that rebuild though. There’s no point building a team to win games if we’re going to set up to not lose. As i just said eleswhere on whatsapp, i'll stick my neck out here and say Danny Rowe will not get you promoted.
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 21, 2021 10:46:07 GMT
It looks that way but I don’t think we’re a million miles off. A right back, a good quality midfielder or two and a quick reshaping of the front line and we’re a different prospect. We need to be tactically more expansive with that rebuild though. There’s no point building a team to win games if we’re going to set up to not lose. As i just said eleswhere on whatsapp, i'll stick my neck out here and say Danny Rowe will not get you promoted. I like Rowe but he’s an out and out striker. Dropping him deep is wasting him. I think he might play better in a partnership but only if we push him up. If we have to play him as a lone frontman then it has to be in instruction to be in and around the area as much a possible and get shots off. This formation that we seem to stick with regardless of the players available is in danger of Doyleing Rowe.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 21, 2021 10:52:44 GMT
As i just said eleswhere on whatsapp, i'll stick my neck out here and say Danny Rowe will not get you promoted. I like Rowe but he’s an out and out striker. Dropping him deep is wasting him. I think he might play better in a partnership but only if we push him up. If we have to play him as a lone frontman then it has to be in instruction to be in and around the area as much a possible and get shots off. This formation that we seem to stick with regardless of the players available is in danger of Doyleing Rowe. There's reasons why no one ever took a punt on Rowe, i'm beginning to see why. Bar the thunderous shot, other strikers offer more to the team. If we're gonna persist with two wingers like Vernam and Crankshaw then Rowe is not the answer. Novak fits better in 4-2-3-1, all about goals as Charlie Wyke showed. Oldham completely dominated us yesterday attacking wise, we looks so impotent upfront.
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 21, 2021 10:54:56 GMT
I like Rowe but he’s an out and out striker. Dropping him deep is wasting him. I think he might play better in a partnership but only if we push him up. If we have to play him as a lone frontman then it has to be in instruction to be in and around the area as much a possible and get shots off. This formation that we seem to stick with regardless of the players available is in danger of Doyleing Rowe. There's reasons why no one ever took a punt on Rowe, i'm beginning to see why. Bar the thunderous shot, other strikers offer more to the team. If we're gonna persist with two wingers like Vernam and Crankshaw then Rowe is not the answer. Novak fits better in 4-2-3-1, all about goals as Charlie Wyke showed. Oldham completely dominated us yesterday attacking wise, we looks so impotent upfront. But do we look impotent because we’re not finishing chances or because we’re not creating them?
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Post by Neshead on Mar 21, 2021 11:09:15 GMT
There's reasons why no one ever took a punt on Rowe, i'm beginning to see why. Bar the thunderous shot, other strikers offer more to the team. If we're gonna persist with two wingers like Vernam and Crankshaw then Rowe is not the answer. Novak fits better in 4-2-3-1, all about goals as Charlie Wyke showed. Oldham completely dominated us yesterday attacking wise, we looks so impotent upfront. But do we look impotent because we’re not finishing chances or because we’re not creating them? We didn't create that much even when Cooke was playing although that wasn't down to Cooke, more the players around him. I've read this handbrake analogy and about it being released and i don't really go with it. Certainly not with the players we have available. One thing i'll say about Rowe, i think Oldham would have won with him in yesterday, he fits better around players like McAleney and McAlmont. But then i still don't think he's all that. I mentioned a while back which player you'd have up front with the likes of Vaughan, Doyle etc. And Doyler showed again yesterday why he's a much better player than Rowe.
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 21, 2021 12:44:27 GMT
But do we look impotent because we’re not finishing chances or because we’re not creating them? We didn't create that much even when Cooke was playing although that wasn't down to Cooke, more the players around him. I've read this handbrake analogy and about it being released and i don't really go with it. Certainly not with the players we have available. One thing i'll say about Rowe, i think Oldham would have won with him in yesterday, he fits better around players like McAleney and McAlmont. But then i still don't think he's all that. I mentioned a while back which player you'd have up front with the likes of Vaughan, Doyle etc. And Doyler showed again yesterday why he's a much better player than Rowe. But if you admit we don’t create enough even with Cooke in the side how does it then follow that it’s Rowe that isn’t the man to take us up? Strikers need service and until we’ve given Rowe enough of it it’s hard to conclude how good or poor he actually is. I agree with you on Vaughan and Doyle being better players but it doesn’t matter who we’ve got up front if we’re not going to utilise them properly. As for the handbrake analogy, Sellars said himself we set up not to lose. At home. To Oldham. It’s time to stop doing that against all but the best sides. It’s time to build a side and let the other team worry about us for a change.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 21, 2021 12:53:51 GMT
We didn't create that much even when Cooke was playing although that wasn't down to Cooke, more the players around him. I've read this handbrake analogy and about it being released and i don't really go with it. Certainly not with the players we have available. One thing i'll say about Rowe, i think Oldham would have won with him in yesterday, he fits better around players like McAleney and McAlmont. But then i still don't think he's all that. I mentioned a while back which player you'd have up front with the likes of Vaughan, Doyle etc. And Doyler showed again yesterday why he's a much better player than Rowe. But if you admit we don’t create enough even with Cooke in the side how does it then follow that it’s Rowe that isn’t the man to take us up? Strikers need service and until we’ve given Rowe enough of it it’s hard to conclude how good or poor he actually is. I agree with you on Vaughan and Doyle being better players but it doesn’t matter who we’ve got up front if we’re not going to utilise them properly. As for the handbrake analogy, Sellars said himself we set up not to lose. At home. To Oldham. It’s time to stop doing that against all but the best sides. It’s time to build a side and let the other team worry about us for a change. Hence the reason I added I don't think Rowe is all that. If you are going to play him then all recruiting will have to be based on how he plays not how the rest of the team plays. I'd much prefer to build a team around the likes of Doyle or Vaughan. T and S are stuck with a similar problem to what Bowyer faced in that it was defence that brought the success, Bowyer didn't know how to change it and failed miserably. And as our squad currently stands T and S don't have the quality of player available to change it. That's why the summer will be important to bring in better players. I agree with Nice boys view on what we need.
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Post by benitocarbone on Mar 21, 2021 16:46:22 GMT
All of these are out of contract: Hornby A O’Connor Wood Pritchard Novak Donaldson Ismail Clarke Scales Shanks Sikora Huffer Foulds Stevens (loan) Burrell (loan) Hosannah (loan) Cook (loan)
I’d let them all go apart from Wood and AOC if they’ll take a pay cut. I’d also keep one of the keepers as back up and sign Cook permanently.
So assuming we stick with 4-2-3-1 regularly and let other teams worry about us then we’d look something like this:
GK: ROD / Hornby RB: AOC / FCD LB: Wood / Staunton CB: Canavan CB: Paudie CM: Sutton CM: Watt AM: Vernam AM: Evans / Crankshaw AM: Cooke SC: Rowe / Cook
So signings wise I reckon that we’d need minimum; 1) Another defender either to cover for the CBs or someone who can cover both FB positions so that we can use AOC and Staunton as CB cover. 2) A midfielder - this is a key signing and has been for a while. A shithouse, a leader. 3) An attacking midfielder - someone who can both properly cover for Cooke and also offer some competition to Crankshaw and Vernam given that Evans is going to be another year older and probably even more injury prone. 4) Another striker or two. Someone who ideally has good movement and some pace.
Four quality permanent signings. Top it up with some quality loans. Recruitment as always is key. Hopefully Turnbull can show his worth.
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Post by hobbes on Mar 23, 2021 12:00:34 GMT
It looks that way but I don’t think we’re a million miles off. A right back, a good quality midfielder or two and a quick reshaping of the front line and we’re a different prospect. We need to be tactically more expansive with that rebuild though. There’s no point building a team to win games if we’re going to set up to not lose. As i just said eleswhere on whatsapp, i'll stick my neck out here and say Danny Rowe will not get you promoted. What I've noticed is he seems to show almost zero inclination to get into the box and find goalscoring positions. He just wants to be given the ball on the edge of the area so he can twat it. Think it was Saturday where he held the ball up on the wing, gave it to Vernam/Cranky I can't remember, then just stood and watched him from about 8 yards away. A goalscorer in that situation is legging it into the middle and trying to lose his centre half. Rowe is a character alright, and good to have in the squad, but he doesn't look to me like he's "the answer". His Fylde record looks like he was a flat track bully at that level but he doesn't seem to have the necessary to be anything but a wildcard enigma in League football to me. His demeanour looks like can't be arsed with all this football lark too - when he loses the ball he never chases back for example. Could be a case of resting bitch face, its something I suffer from myself tbh lads, but I think we're seeing why its taken this long for him to play as high(!) as division 4.
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Post by hobbes on Mar 23, 2021 12:03:15 GMT
All of these are out of contract: Hornby A O’Connor Wood Pritchard Novak Donaldson Ismail Clarke Scales Shanks Sikora Huffer Foulds Stevens (loan) Burrell (loan) Hosannah (loan) Cook (loan) I’d let them all go apart from Wood and AOC if they’ll take a pay cut. I’d also keep one of the keepers as back up and sign Cook permanently. So assuming we stick with 4-2-3-1 regularly and let other teams worry about us then we’d look something like this: GK: ROD / Hornby RB: AOC / FCD LB: Wood / Staunton CB: Canavan CB: Paudie CM: Sutton CM: Watt AM: Vernam AM: Evans / Crankshaw AM: Cooke SC: Rowe / Cook So signings wise I reckon that we’d need minimum; 1) Another defender either to cover for the CBs or someone who can cover both FB positions so that we can use AOC and Staunton as CB cover. 2) A midfielder - this is a key signing and has been for a while. A shithouse, a leader. 3) An attacking midfielder - someone who can both properly cover for Cooke and also offer some competition to Crankshaw and Vernam given that Evans is going to be another year older and probably even more injury prone. 4) Another striker or two. Someone who ideally has good movement and some pace. Four quality permanent signings. Top it up with some quality loans. Recruitment as always is key. Hopefully Turnbull can show his worth. Scales looks to be worth a one year deal at least. He'll be on fuck all money and wouldn't get offered more elsewhere. Not seen the other young lads but Sikora is ok on FIFA
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