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Post by hammstrasse on Oct 15, 2021 11:31:49 GMT
I saw this on another forum. Current rates of Covid Cases in West Yorkshire v Current Rates of Vaccination. It appears to point to the fact that being vaccinated doesn't stop you getting the virus, infact it seems to point you into the direction that natural immunity is far far greater than vaccine immunity based on the fact that all those areas with low vaccine take up have historically been the places with the highest number of cases. This kind of removes the main reason they are trying to push these Nazi Style show me your papers out there making the whole scheme pointless. Ilkley is full of people vaccinated and wearing masks to shops and has the highest rates in Bradford, go to Keighley and no one gives a shit about masks and vaccine take up is low and guess what currently one of the lowest rates in the district. The vaccine won't shop you getting it, if the virus was going to kill you it would make you less likely to die when you do end up with it. All this bollocks about everyone needing the vaccine for it to work is rubbish, and anyone who questions such stupid logic is silenced and called a Covid denier. As someone else has said, you can take the vaccine and oppose vaccine passports that is not a stance that is exclusive of the other.
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Post by hammstrasse on Oct 15, 2021 11:49:23 GMT
As for getting into a football match and the idiots who simply respond "I'm ok to prove I am jabbed and have no issue with it". Today in Italy it is actually mandatory to have a green covid pass to earn a living. Once the thin end of the wedge is applied it won't stop there.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Oct 15, 2021 11:52:37 GMT
I saw this on another forum. Current rates of Covid Cases in West Yorkshire v Current Rates of Vaccination. It appears to point to the fact that being vaccinated doesn't stop you getting the virus, infact it seems to point you into the direction that natural immunity is far far greater than vaccine immunity based on the fact that all those areas with low vaccine take up have historically been the places with the highest number of cases. This kind of removes the main reason they are trying to push these Nazi Style show me your papers out there making the whole scheme pointless. Ilkley is full of people vaccinated and wearing masks to shops and has the highest rates in Bradford, go to Keighley and no one gives a shit about masks and vaccine take up is low and guess what currently one of the lowest rates in the district. The vaccine won't shop you getting it, if the virus was going to kill you it would make you less likely to die when you do end up with it. All this bollocks about everyone needing the vaccine for it to work is rubbish, and anyone who questions such stupid logic is silenced and called a Covid denier. As someone else has said, you can take the vaccine and oppose vaccine passports that is not a stance that is exclusive of the other. View AttachmentView AttachmentIts almost like reality is the exact opposite of the official narrative. I would guess the overall vaccination rate is somewhat lower than the 80% figure banded about, judging by those figures. It would explain the hysterical push for vaccine passports... however it seems inner city dwellers aren't as stupid as the happy clapping gogglebox furlough brigade. I guess the more 'community spirited' inner city areas talk more and aren't as susceptible to media and government lies.
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Post by hammstrasse on Oct 15, 2021 12:07:10 GMT
I saw this on another forum. Current rates of Covid Cases in West Yorkshire v Current Rates of Vaccination. It appears to point to the fact that being vaccinated doesn't stop you getting the virus, infact it seems to point you into the direction that natural immunity is far far greater than vaccine immunity based on the fact that all those areas with low vaccine take up have historically been the places with the highest number of cases. This kind of removes the main reason they are trying to push these Nazi Style show me your papers out there making the whole scheme pointless. Ilkley is full of people vaccinated and wearing masks to shops and has the highest rates in Bradford, go to Keighley and no one gives a shit about masks and vaccine take up is low and guess what currently one of the lowest rates in the district. The vaccine won't shop you getting it, if the virus was going to kill you it would make you less likely to die when you do end up with it. All this bollocks about everyone needing the vaccine for it to work is rubbish, and anyone who questions such stupid logic is silenced and called a Covid denier. As someone else has said, you can take the vaccine and oppose vaccine passports that is not a stance that is exclusive of the other. View AttachmentView AttachmentIts almost like reality is the exact opposite of the official narrative. I would guess the overall vaccination rate is somewhat lower than the 80% figure banded about, judging by those figures. It would explain the hysterical push for vaccine passports... however it seems inner city dwellers aren't as stupid as the happy clapping gogglebox furlough brigade. I guess the more 'community spirited' inner city areas talk more and aren't as susceptible to media and government lies. I think those figures has dropped now as they include down to 12 year olds as per picture 2 when not so long ago it was down to 18 year olds then down to 16 year olds. What worries me most is we still have over 7m people taking tests every single week, why? Why are people testing themselves to see if they are ill to the extent of 7m people per work, especially if we are led to believe that 80% of the people over 18 are double vaccinated. It's as if some people want this to continue forever. The government should pull the plug on testing at this scale. Then leave people to actually doing what they did pre pandemic and taking the action they need if they are actually ill, not testing themselves every fucking day on the off chance they feel totally fine but are told by a not so reliable test they are ill.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Oct 15, 2021 12:19:58 GMT
Its almost like reality is the exact opposite of the official narrative. I would guess the overall vaccination rate is somewhat lower than the 80% figure banded about, judging by those figures. It would explain the hysterical push for vaccine passports... however it seems inner city dwellers aren't as stupid as the happy clapping gogglebox furlough brigade. I guess the more 'community spirited' inner city areas talk more and aren't as susceptible to media and government lies. I think those figures has dropped now as they include down to 12 year olds as per picture 2 when not so long ago it was down to 18 year olds then down to 16 year olds. What worries me most is we still have over 7m people taking tests every single week, why? Why are people testing themselves to see if they are ill to the extent of 7m people per work, especially if we are led to believe that 80% of the people over 18 are double vaccinated. It's as if some people want this to continue forever. The government should pull the plug on testing at this scale. Then leave people to actually doing what they did pre pandemic and taking the action they need if they are actually ill, not testing themselves every fucking day on the off chance they feel totally fine but are told by a not so reliable test they are ill. If you’re a shirker, the ‘pandemic’ is the golden goose
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Oct 16, 2021 8:53:33 GMT
I think those figures has dropped now as they include down to 12 year olds as per picture 2 when not so long ago it was down to 18 year olds then down to 16 year olds. What worries me most is we still have over 7m people taking tests every single week, why? Why are people testing themselves to see if they are ill to the extent of 7m people per work, especially if we are led to believe that 80% of the people over 18 are double vaccinated. It's as if some people want this to continue forever. The government should pull the plug on testing at this scale. Then leave people to actually doing what they did pre pandemic and taking the action they need if they are actually ill, not testing themselves every fucking day on the off chance they feel totally fine but are told by a not so reliable test they are ill. If you’re a shirker, the ‘pandemic’ is the golden goose If I got a positive test, I’d be able to get more work done.
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Post by Hobhead on Oct 17, 2021 7:34:23 GMT
Looks like terrorism’s returned. We owe those lads a debt of gratitude for considerately having the pandemic off. Anybody up for organising a doorstep pots and pans banging session for terrorists?
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Post by hammstrasse on Oct 19, 2021 8:26:16 GMT
The power grab continues today with the Coronavirus Act 2020 renewal of temporary provisions being discussed in parliment. If they get this through they will no doubt be able to push Vaccine passports through the back door without and opposition. Seeing as the Labour party were all sat in the house of commons yesterday wearing masks, they are likely to support such idiocy. It is strange how the Labour MPs were back to wearing masks in Westminister but at their party conference it seems masks weren't needed at all. This is what happens when you have virtue signaling over proper debate. The BBC are ramping it up again today to butter us up for these extended powers.
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Post by bantam147 on Oct 19, 2021 9:42:48 GMT
The power grab continues today with the Coronavirus Act 2020 renewal of temporary provisions being discussed in parliment. If they get this through they will no doubt be able to push Vaccine passports through the back door without and opposition. Seeing as the Labour party were all sat in the house of commons yesterday wearing masks, they are likely to support such idiocy. It is strange how the Labour MPs were back to wearing masks in Westminister but at their party conference it seems masks weren't needed at all. This is what happens when you have virtue signaling over proper debate. The BBC are ramping it up again today to butter us up for these extended powers. Said it from the start. It’s not about a virus. Our society is utterly, utterly fucked.
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Post by tetchyarse on Oct 21, 2021 7:24:52 GMT
If we don't wear a face mask and ban unvaccinated people from society wE'rE aLl GoInG tO dIe!!!!1! www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58990658Oh shush, what do you mean that there's no evidence face masks make any difference and that vaccinated people can still catch and spread it.
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Post by hammstrasse on Oct 21, 2021 8:54:32 GMT
The media are such trash.
Like clockwork they all stood up last night asking for more restrictions.
This morning the push is there for Plan B, despite Plan B already being in place in Wales and Scotland and figures in both those nations being worse as a proportion of the population than England.
Clearly wearing masks has sod all difference otherwise we would see Wales and Scotland fairing much better than England, they aren't.
What is worse, you see all these people thanking Wales and Scotland for having it's population at heart by forcing them to show papers and wear masks.
Thankfully our government at present isn't folding to this media demand, but if it does it can count me out of any restrictions.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Oct 21, 2021 10:30:20 GMT
The media are such trash. Like clockwork they all stood up last night asking for more restrictions. This morning the push is there for Plan B, despite Plan B already being in place in Wales and Scotland and figures in both those nations being worse as a proportion of the population than England. Clearly wearing masks has sod all difference otherwise we would see Wales and Scotland fairing much better than England, they aren't. What is worse, you see all these people thanking Wales and Scotland for having it's population at heart by forcing them to show papers and wear masks. Thankfully our government at present isn't folding to this media demand, but if it does it can count me out of any restrictions. Plus all the fake outrage twitter accounts piping up 'demanding action' right on cue. It's so contrived even some of the TV worshipping drama queens are starting to twig. Even if they do try to implement further 'measures', i think compliance rates will be much lower this time round. Things could get ugly.
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Post by Hobhead on Oct 21, 2021 11:17:02 GMT
In amongst all the calls for returning to the measures why is it that nobody is asking why the virus has waited this long after the rescinding of the measures to rise again? And why it’s ebbed and flowed in the meantime almost independent of whether or not the measures were swing enforced?
It’s odd, it’s almost like a population can’t really control the spread of a virus.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Oct 21, 2021 15:19:02 GMT
Fucking get in! Offices will be closed by December.
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Post by tetchyarse on Oct 21, 2021 18:08:35 GMT
Fucking get in! Offices will be closed by December. I give it three weeks. Put all the unvaccinated in a gulag and it might take four. ETA Been seeing some interesting moderating on the Guardian* website. Any mention of, say, the DANEMASK-19 study gets moderated into oblivion, but call mask-sceptics "cretins" and that's an editor's choice. Now I wonder why that is? (*other newspapers seem just as bad)
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Post by bantam147 on Oct 21, 2021 18:43:25 GMT
The whole thing is a masquerade. The govt are trying to convince people they don’t want to bring back tougher restrictions, whilst ‘medical experts are demanding they do so’. So when the Gov’t do, it has the semblance of being driven by medical experts.
What a fucking sham
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Post by hammstrasse on Oct 21, 2021 22:18:47 GMT
The whole thing is a masquerade. The govt are trying to convince people they don’t want to bring back tougher restrictions, whilst ‘medical experts are demanding they do so’. So when the Gov’t do, it has the semblance of being driven by medical experts. What a fucking sham I don't really think they know the public opinion on this one. You only have to walk around for 10min to see the number of people without masks to understand many are happy the way they are. Those wearing masks are the ones shouting the loudest to get everyone else to wear them because they piss the bed. The media want this to happen because its what they have done throughout. Last year you has the Sky crew calling for lockdowns whilst they all went out on the piss, Piers Morgan was on TV everyday wanting Christmas cancelled before he flew off to Antigua on Holiday. Peston was calling for masks for everyone whilst in a large group of other people. It appears because the vaccine is not stopping the transmission like they claimed with the highest rates of transmission outside of school children being 40 to 49 year olds who are vaccinated, the target has moved from the "anti-vaxxers" as being the issue to the "anti-maskers" being the new scapegoat of choice. If anything, I point to the #fbpe muppets who are testing to the tune of 7m tests per week to keep this shit going. I mean there were 1.1m tests done in the last 24 hours, people have lost all sanity.
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Post by Hobhead on Oct 24, 2021 6:10:35 GMT
This winter will be interesting.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Oct 24, 2021 9:54:02 GMT
Another farcical poll.
Even if you take the numbers at face value (which i don't) the respondents could hardly be any less transparent...
"Yes, of course i want to work from home while the little shits are at school. And go to the pub for lunch" "if it means i have to half arsedly wear a mask in Waitrose, so be it. No more dragging my arse to the office for me!"
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Post by bantam147 on Oct 24, 2021 11:17:55 GMT
This winter will be interesting. I said months ago that there were parallels with where this is headed and 1930s Germany. Only to be derided (on BT, not here). But its playing out.
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