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Kilgallon
May 26, 2018 6:32:09 GMT
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Post by Fat Ade on May 26, 2018 6:32:09 GMT
This guy is going to be the weak link next season...has the turning circle of a tanker and gets outpaced by a glacier...he needs sacking off.
He does have good positional play but when you can’t get out from the edge of your box because you constantly have to worry about the ball in behind...he becomes a hindrance.
Won POTY last season more down to lack of options rather than outstanding performances...fans enjoy a last ditch tackle but they are only needed if you’ve fucked up previously.
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Kilgallon
May 26, 2018 7:44:50 GMT
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Post by northernmonkey on May 26, 2018 7:44:50 GMT
This guy is going to be the weak link next season...has the turning circle of a tanker and gets outpaced by a glacier...he needs sacking off. He does have good positional play but when you can’t get out from the edge of your box because you constantly have to worry about the ball in behind...he becomes a hindrance. Won POTY last season more down to lack of options rather than outstanding performances...fans enjoy a last ditch tackle but they are only needed if you’ve fucked up previously. Nah, can't agree with that. Obviously he's not the paciest but if you have experience and are positionally excellent like Kilgallon is then you can get away with it to a certain extent. John Terry is a good example of that with Villa this term. He was excellent last year, despite being paired with a very unreliable CB partner in NKP and constantly changing left backs. He also chipped in with a few important goals at the other end as well as being only one of a few that looked like they actually gave a shit from January onwards. I've not seen McGowan play yet but if he's as decent as people were suggesting then him and Killa are absolutely fine for league one and we should be spending any brass we have on replacing the completely awful Midfield options we currently have.
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Post by Nice boy on May 26, 2018 8:16:29 GMT
Killgallon will be decent enough with a solid Centre Back next to him. Agree with the above, we have far more areas of concern at the moment. Only 1 winger, a poor set of Centre Mids and Wyke apart, a shocking strike force consisting of players such as Poleon, Mcarten, Bruenker and Patrick. The only worry is if McGowan gets injured and we are back to the dreaded NKP/Kilgallon partnership again. On that basis i think we still need another CB but taking into consideration the limited budget we have and the fact tbat we need a major overhaul in other areas i'd be happy to bring in another able but relatively cheap CB who can hopefully step up for a few games when required. Plus it'll make NKP pretty much redundant going into next season which is a plus.
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Post by Bacon on May 26, 2018 8:22:53 GMT
I'd have NKP in over Kilgallon, as it was NKP who had to play on his "wrong" side and constantly received the ball from his more experienced partner on his wrong foot and in situations where kilgallons lack of pace meant that defenders were bearing down. McGowan and NKP, first choice pairing for me.
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Kilgallon
May 26, 2018 8:54:13 GMT
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Post by Lofty on May 26, 2018 8:54:13 GMT
I'd play a back 3 of Killa, NKP and McGowan with Riley and Robinson as wing backs. A good solid defence with youth and pace providing an outlet out wide and being quick enough to cover for the likes of Killa.
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Post by Hobhead on May 26, 2018 8:58:37 GMT
He's definitely starting to creak. It'll be interesting to see how quickly he wanes.
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Kilgallon
May 26, 2018 10:48:10 GMT
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on May 26, 2018 10:48:10 GMT
I'd like a Reece Burke type player in the back 3, bit of pace and can bring the ball out. None of our cbs have any pace, and I don't like Robinson defensively.
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Post by northernmonkey on May 26, 2018 11:05:03 GMT
I'd like a Reece Burke type player in the back 3, bit of pace and can bring the ball out. None of our cbs have any pace, and I don't like Robinson defensively.
I'd imagine we'd all take a Reece Burke type in a back 3 but finding one as good as him that will play for magic beans is going to be tough.
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Kilgallon
May 26, 2018 12:40:01 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on May 26, 2018 12:40:01 GMT
We need to play the loan market much more effectively. Like Shrewsbury have. They’ve brought in a few quality loanees.
Guarantee football in exchange for minimal contribution on wages.
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Kilgallon
May 26, 2018 12:41:23 GMT
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Post by Fat Ade on May 26, 2018 12:41:23 GMT
This guy is going to be the weak link next season...has the turning circle of a tanker and gets outpaced by a glacier...he needs sacking off. He does have good positional play but when you can’t get out from the edge of your box because you constantly have to worry about the ball in behind...he becomes a hindrance. Won POTY last season more down to lack of options rather than outstanding performances...fans enjoy a last ditch tackle but they are only needed if you’ve fucked up previously. Nah, can't agree with that. Obviously he's not the paciest but if you have experience and are positionally excellent like Kilgallon is then you can get away with it to a certain extent. John Terry is a good example of that with Villa this term. He was excellent last year, despite being paired with a very unreliable CB partner in NKP and constantly changing left backs. He also chipped in with a few important goals at the other end as well as being only one of a few that looked like they actually gave a shit from January onwards. I've not seen McGowan play yet but if he's as decent as people were suggesting then him and Killa are absolutely fine for league one and we should be spending any brass we have on replacing the completely awful Midfield options we currently have. I agree that there are probably more pressing areas which worries me a little as they will overlook the centre half position. It’s only my opinion but I thought Killa made a pretty poor start e.g. nearly got caught three times against Blackpool and at fault for the Blackburn goal (don’t give the ball away with a shit touch in your own box), as a couple of examples and I wasn’t on the bandwagon of him being a brick wall like some made out. NKP is a funny one for me, he was solid at the start of the season, playing out of position but obviously fell apart like the rest of them at the beginning of the year. I’d like to see him next to McGowan in his proper position and I think he will be solid enough. Vitally he has a bit of pace compared to the others and his distribution is better than Killa’s...he tends to just lob hopeful balls into areas and concedes possession far too often.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on May 26, 2018 13:04:21 GMT
I'd like a Reece Burke type player in the back 3, bit of pace and can bring the ball out. None of our cbs have any pace, and I don't like Robinson defensively.
I'd imagine we'd all take a Reece Burke type in a back 3 but finding one as good as him that will play for magic beans is going to be tough.
I'm thinking that lad from Liverpool who we were after before. Lloyd Jones was it ? Don't think he got sent down and sure he was out of contract this summer.
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Post by Bacon on May 26, 2018 13:07:25 GMT
I'd imagine we'd all take a Reece Burke type in a back 3 but finding one as good as him that will play for magic beans is going to be tough.
I'm thinking that sexy boy from Liverpool who we were after before. Lloyd Jones was it ? Don't think he got sent down and sure he was out of contract this summer. Would he pass the James Mason psychological interview though? Suppose he could always ask Paul Taylor for tips.
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Kilgallon
May 26, 2018 14:28:22 GMT
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on May 26, 2018 14:28:22 GMT
After a quick Google turns out he went to Luton in January. Cross that one out then
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Kilgallon
May 28, 2018 7:21:59 GMT
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Post by smartmart on May 28, 2018 7:21:59 GMT
Nah, can't agree with that. Obviously he's not the paciest but if you have experience and are positionally excellent like Kilgallon is then you can get away with it to a certain extent. John Terry is a good example of that with Villa this term. He was excellent last year, despite being paired with a very unreliable CB partner in NKP and constantly changing left backs. He also chipped in with a few important goals at the other end as well as being only one of a few that looked like they actually gave a shit from January onwards. I've not seen McGowan play yet but if he's as decent as people were suggesting then him and Killa are absolutely fine for league one and we should be spending any brass we have on replacing the completely awful Midfield options we currently have. I agree that there are probably more pressing areas which worries me a little as they will overlook the centre half position. It’s only my opinion but I thought Killa made a pretty poor start e.g. nearly got caught three times against Blackpool and at fault for the Blackburn goal (don’t give the ball away with a shit touch in your own box), as a couple of examples and I wasn’t on the bandwagon of him being a brick wall like some made out. NKP is a funny one for me, he was solid at the start of the season, playing out of position but obviously fell apart like the rest of them at the beginning of the year. I’d like to see him next to McGowan in his proper position and I think he will be solid enough. Vitally he has a bit of pace compared to the others and his distribution is better than Killa’s...he tends to just lob hopeful balls into areas and concedes possession far too often. Killa is ageing in football terms but was pretty reliable last season. NKP has a major ricket in him most games. He lacks consistency and after his extended deal lost form. I prefer more solidity than he offers. Killa and McGowan could be useful. I would sell/swap NKP and RV based on last seasons performances if we had the chance.
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Kilgallon
May 28, 2018 8:54:48 GMT
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Post by Bacon on May 28, 2018 8:54:48 GMT
Assuming that McGowan is back fit again I'd say that RV's ability to cover at centre half, where he's looked least shite, becomes even less of a factor. Unless the new coach can get an attitude adjustment I'd just get rid.
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Post by ricksanchez on May 28, 2018 11:45:28 GMT
I agree that there are probably more pressing areas which worries me a little as they will overlook the centre half position. It’s only my opinion but I thought Killa made a pretty poor start e.g. nearly got caught three times against Blackpool and at fault for the Blackburn goal (don’t give the ball away with a shit touch in your own box), as a couple of examples and I wasn’t on the bandwagon of him being a brick wall like some made out. NKP is a funny one for me, he was solid at the start of the season, playing out of position but obviously fell apart like the rest of them at the beginning of the year. I’d like to see him next to McGowan in his proper position and I think he will be solid enough. Vitally he has a bit of pace compared to the others and his distribution is better than Killa’s...he tends to just lob hopeful balls into areas and concedes possession far too often. Killa is ageing in football terms but was pretty reliable last season. NKP has a major ricket in him most games. He lacks consistency and after his extended deal lost form. I prefer more solidity than he offers. Killa and McGowan could be useful. I would sell/swap NKP and RV based on last seasons performances if we had the chance. If Vincelot and NKP are first team starters next season that will prove to me that nothing has been learnt. Vincelot is utter, utter shite. NKP has some ability but overall and due to his inconsistency he's a 6/10 player. You need more than that in the spine of your team if you have serious aspirations of going up. But, do we have serious aspirations of going up?
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Post by Nice boy on May 28, 2018 12:58:39 GMT
Even when we got to Wembley i though Vincelot's ability was overstated. He was never that great and was fairly average in midfield, although admittedly he did an excellent job at the back-not that I'll have him back there. He's a reserve Centre Back at best for me.
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