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Post by Dick on Jan 7, 2018 1:21:45 GMT
I see we only had 6 on the bench. What happened to taking a couple of youths down for the extra bodies? In case something unexpected happens like an injury in the warm up or one goes to Shrewsbury. These things happen. McCall shoving it down the owners and Abbotts' throats he hasn't got enough to work with?
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Post by ricksanchez on Jan 7, 2018 12:27:00 GMT
My feeling now is we have money but Rahic doesn't want to back McCall. He'll give the new guy money. The thing with this is McCall gives the impression that, as coach, his opinion about what players to keep or let go is largely inconsequential to the transfer committee. On that basis I don't know whether or not a new guy coming in - and his opinions on what we need (having not worked with the players) - would release any more funds than are currently available to McCall i.e. fuck all. It would be nice to think that a healthy balance could be struck between the needs of the coach, head of recruitment and head of football but certainly for the moment - it seems like McCall goes out of his way to give the impression that he's completely out of the loop, as coach, as to the comings and goings. Would a new manager change this?
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Post by Lofty on Jan 7, 2018 13:26:58 GMT
My feeling now is we have money but Rahic doesn't want to back McCall. He'll give the new guy money. The thing with this is McCall gives the impression that, as coach, his opinion about what players to keep or let go is largely inconsequential to the transfer committee. On that basis I don't know whether or not a new guy coming in - and his opinions on what we need (having not worked with the players) - would release any more funds than are currently available to McCall i.e. fuck all. It would be nice to think that a healthy balance could be struck between the needs of the coach, head of recruitment and head of football but certainly for the moment - it seems like McCall goes out of his way to give the impression that he's completely out of the loop, as coach, as to the comings and goings. Would a new manager change this? Good point. Unless another manager (that Rahic trusts) coming in would make the 'transfer brain trust' redundant nowt will change.
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 7, 2018 13:49:57 GMT
My feeling now is we have money but Rahic doesn't want to back McCall. He'll give the new guy money. I'd love it to be true, but I just don't believe it. I don't think Rahic has serious money. It's all Rupp isn't it?
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Post by Lofty on Jan 7, 2018 13:50:44 GMT
My feeling now is we have money but Rahic doesn't want to back McCall. He'll give the new guy money. I'd love it to be true, but I just don't believe it. I don't think Rahic has serious money. It's all Rupp isn't it? Probably neither!
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Post by Lofty on Jan 7, 2018 13:52:00 GMT
Fucking Leeds losing at Newport just gives gompers more ammunition.
"Leeds losing just proves yesterday wasn't so bad"
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Post by Hobhead on Jan 7, 2018 13:59:39 GMT
My feeling now is we have money but Rahic doesn't want to back McCall. He'll give the new guy money. I'd love it to be true, but I just don't believe it. I don't think Rahic has serious money. It's all Rupp isn't it? Rupp sold his share of his business for around £130m as far as I can gather. Since then he's listed as 'investor' or 'financial investor'. It looks to me like he's taken his lump sum and stashed it away in various funds etc. Rahic has fuck all left after buying the club and I'd guess Rupp has very little in the way of liquid cash available. Besides which, £130m is nowhere near enough to bankroll Championship football let alone Premier League.
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 7, 2018 14:01:21 GMT
Fucking Leeds losing at Newport just gives gompers more ammunition. "Leeds losing just proves yesterday wasn't so bad" I'm using that line as a feature of my new positive self.
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 7, 2018 14:17:24 GMT
I'd love it to be true, but I just don't believe it. I don't think Rahic has serious money. It's all Rupp isn't it? Rupp sold his share of his business for around £130m as far as I can gather. Since then he's listed as 'investor' or 'financial investor'. It looks to me like he's taken his lump sum and stashed it away in various funds etc. Rahic has fuck all left after buying the club and I'd guess Rupp has very little in the way of liquid cash available. Besides which, £130m is nowhere near enough to bankroll Championship football let alone Premier League. That's what we are to Rupp, in my opinion. Part of his diversified investment portfolio. He'll have looked at it and thought 1) few assets, but no debts and a cheap purchase price. 2) the running costs are inflated and there's plenty of room for bringing wages down. I.e it's fairly straight forward to establish the club as self sustaining in league one just by trimming those inflated costs 3) large fanbase and under developed commercial operation 4) close proximity to big north west clubs. Potential for good links and picking up some cast offs. So, forget championship for a second. Just in league one, he'll have had a view that there may be modest level of opportunity to make some money. Reasonable worst case? We stay in league one for a few years, maintain low running costs, tap into the fanbase and grow the commercial revenue coming into the club. Reinvest money raised through extra cup revenue and sell ons, sure. But no need to pump money in at this level. Just run it as a business and rely on the idea of some of those young cast offs we pick up being sold for good money. Theres no emotional attachment so why rush? What's the problem if it takes a few years? Probably not his first choice of investment opportunities and maybe not something he'd have done normally, but his mate was probably in his ear and fancied his chances of running a club. He might underestimate the fickle nature of our fans and the amount of floating fans we have, but I reckon that's his thinking. The thinking will change if we go into the championship. Then, the best chance of investment return are the riches of the premiership. But even then, there won't be immediate swathes of cash. We'd look to compete with other league one clubs for players and grind our way to survival for a couple of years before the idea of throwing some money at it might appeal. Let's face it, the championship is massively competitive - it'd take much more money and be less likely to pay off, than putting money into it at league 1 level. I can understand his thinking if not agreeing with it. Where I think he's missing a trick, is that itd probably take 3-4m to buy our way out of this league by recruiting the best young players willing to come to league one. Get into the championship with a properly strong young side and you've much more chance of staying there, and the model of developing and selling players really ramps up because you get access to better players and the fees even in the championship are inflated.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jan 8, 2018 19:16:48 GMT
They got Man Utd at home....imagine Rahics face right now !!!
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 8, 2018 19:21:51 GMT
They got Man Utd at home....imagine Rahics face right now !!! Brilliant. I hope that's a kick in the balls for the players. A reward for their spineless and gutless performance at the weekend
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jan 8, 2018 19:25:16 GMT
It's OK. We'd only have lost and our morale would've suffered. Best thing to be out of it so we can concentrate on the league.
Said some cunt somewhere.
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Post by Neshead on Jan 8, 2018 19:26:18 GMT
They got Man Utd at home....imagine Rahics face right now !!! I'd keep out of Rahic's way for a few days if I were McCall. Don't think Edin will let this one drop for a while.
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Post by Nice boy on Jan 8, 2018 19:32:02 GMT
I've read a comment saying that we would have been a different ball number if we had beat Yeovil. Is that true?
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jan 8, 2018 19:36:07 GMT
I've read a comment saying that we would have been a different ball number if we had beat Yeovil. Is that true? I think that usually is the case but they seemed very random today. Sheffield United were number 1. Not sure how that works.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jan 8, 2018 19:52:08 GMT
I've read a comment saying that we would have been a different ball number if we had beat Yeovil. Is that true? it's the tie that is the number not the team....i didn't watch the draw but on Friday I saw a list that had us down as ball 11 if we had won. Was this yeovils number ?
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Post by rcbantam on Jan 8, 2018 19:55:18 GMT
Spineless twats our players. Training should be fun tomorrow, McCall and black will walking saying it doesn't matter don't think about it. That's football we go again Saturday. I bet them two won't tear them players a new one all week.
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Post by Nice boy on Jan 8, 2018 20:03:16 GMT
I've read a comment saying that we would have been a different ball number if we had beat Yeovil. Is that true? it's the tie that is the number not the team....i didn't watch the draw but on Friday I saw a list that had us down as ball 11 if we had won. Was this yeovils number ? Yep, you're right. Yeovil were ball 11.
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jan 8, 2018 20:03:18 GMT
I've read a comment saying that we would have been a different ball number if we had beat Yeovil. Is that true? it's the tie that is the number not the team....i didn't watch the draw but on Friday I saw a list that had us down as ball 11 if we had won. Was this yeovils number ? Yes
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Post by Hobhead on Jan 8, 2018 20:56:45 GMT
If we'd have gone through the entire draw would have been different. We're on an alternate timeline from the one we would have been on had we won so nothing really lost. We'd probably have got MK Dons away or some other shite so we're better off concentrating on the league.
Out gomper that, fuckers.
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