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Post by fish on Sept 15, 2021 16:13:49 GMT
What’s the direction we’ve now decided to head in? Are we back to the manager on sole control? Who’s in charge here, Sparks or Adams? Adams has sparks held over a barrel. Sparks wanted a recruitment director, Adams didn't, Turnbull gone. Sparks wants the youth blooded so we can flog them, Adams isn't interested in playing them, 3 out the 4 are off on loan. There'll most likely be other changes coming too. Sparks needs Adams to get promotion this season otherwise he's fucked. He knows it and Adams knows it. Sparks is clearly willing to gamble with his own principles and vision in order to give Adams what he wants in the hope he gets us up. Might work short term but long term we'll be back at square one when Adams goes.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Sept 15, 2021 16:16:15 GMT
What’s the direction we’ve now decided to head in? Are we back to the manager on sole control? Who’s in charge here, Sparks or Adams? To me it's clear Adams is in charge and rightly so.
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 15, 2021 16:50:56 GMT
What’s the direction we’ve now decided to head in? Are we back to the manager on sole control? Who’s in charge here, Sparks or Adams? To me it's clear Adams is in charge and rightly so. I disagree. This strategy relies on us getting a top quality manager who has plenty of contacts and those contacts being available at a convenient time and on a free. It’s too narrow in scope. Plus the obvious problem of the manager leaving and us being lumbered with a load of players who weren’t good enough and a new man who wants to replace them all in the same fashion. A proper recruitment set up with a targeted, long term strategy is the way forward. The manager goes, they stay. The team building follows the same strategy season after season rather than wholesale changes every preseason and just hoping the manager get it right. Get it right and, in time, it starts to pay dividends and those dividends last. Giving sole control to a manager is a dead strategy and with good reason.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Sept 15, 2021 17:24:41 GMT
To me it's clear Adams is in charge and rightly so. I disagree. This strategy relies on us getting a top quality manager who has plenty of contacts and those contacts being available at a convenient time and on a free. It’s too narrow in scope. Plus the obvious problem of the manager leaving and us being lumbered with a load of players who weren’t good enough and a new man who wants to replace them all in the same fashion. A proper recruitment set up with a targeted, long term strategy is the way forward. The manager goes, they stay. The team building follows the same strategy season after season rather than wholesale changes every preseason and just hoping the manager get it right. Get it right and, in time, it starts to pay dividends and those dividends last. Giving sole control to a manager is a dead strategy and with good reason. We're a badly run tight league 2 team, we don't have money to throw around on the types of people that would need to make that system work. Sparks has listened to people who wanted that system which is fair enough but he went and did it on the cheap and it backfired. I've said it when he first came but Turnbull is wank and all the clubs he's been at have struggled with what he's done. League 2 is not the place to be having that type of set up. It's been yet more papering over the cracks but because it's Sparks people don't see it. It's yet another failure and apart from the tunnel and a lick of paint he's done nothing but fail so far. Hopefully now Sparks has let Adams bring in his own people to do this side of things (which I assume is a real scout network and probably an agent to do all the legwork) we can start to move on and bring in the type of players to propel us upwards
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Post by Neshead on Sept 15, 2021 18:25:27 GMT
What’s the direction we’ve now decided to head in? Are we back to the manager on sole control? Who’s in charge here, Sparks or Adams? He was singing Turnbills praises not so long back but AdamS demeanour after the transfer window was one of a man clearly not happy with certain things. When talking about Robinson and stating 'he's no Lee Angol' it brought to the fore just how his feelings were to the transfer strategy. Short term its probably better that Adams gets what wants but it does make a mockery of whats been trying to be achieved throughout the last couple of transfer windows. Why not get rid earlier, giving Adams the last transfer window to bring in what he wanted? As it stands it seems we now have more players at the club that AdamS clearly doesn't rate and we are stuck with them until at least the summer. FFS.
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Post by tetchyarse on Sept 15, 2021 19:15:13 GMT
I'm no fan of the Director of Football model, as there's no responsibility. As we see at Arsenal, if the DoF signs a load of shite he keeps his job but the manager gets the sack. If the manager's assessed on results he should get to choose the approach.
The issue, as always, is manager recruitment. If you want someone modern who'll embrace technology and develop youth, don't sign a complete dinosaur. If you appoint a complete dinosaur, don't be surprised if he just hires all the journeymen he knows.
I still think Sparks fucked up by recruiting Adams.
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Post by benitocarbone on Sept 15, 2021 19:44:10 GMT
What’s the direction we’ve now decided to head in? Are we back to the manager on sole control? Who’s in charge here, Sparks or Adams? He was singing Turnbills praises not so long back but AdamS demeanour after the transfer window was one of a man clearly not happy with certain things. When talking about Robinson and stating 'he's no Lee Angol' it brought to the fore just how his feelings were to the transfer strategy. Short term its probably better that Adams gets what wants but it does make a mockery of whats been trying to be achieved throughout the last couple of transfer windows. Why not get rid earlier, giving Adams the last transfer window to bring in what he wanted? As it stands it seems we now have more players at the club that AdamS clearly doesn't rate and we are stuck with them until at least the summer. FFS. [br Spot on this. We’re now in worse position in having a load of shite that Adams doesn’t want especially up front because we tried to marry up two contrasting approaches rather than realising from the outset that we needed to choose one way or the other because Adams wouldn’t work in a “modern” set up.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Sept 15, 2021 22:17:53 GMT
Well given the Adams comments when he signed he didn’t look like an Adams one either. General shitness aside, didn't Mccall make out he knew nothing about Guthrie when he signed? Similar thing going on, someone involved in making awful last minute signings for us? Who would be the common denominator?
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 16, 2021 9:13:03 GMT
linkI’m just not convinced this is shrewd. Adams has walked in and dictated to Sparks that the set up he put in place has to go and Sparks has agreed. All our eggs are in one basket here and it’s short term, high risk stuff.
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Post by fish on Sept 16, 2021 9:29:21 GMT
linkI’m just not convinced this is shrewd. Adams has walked in and dictated to Sparks that the set up he put in place has to go and Sparks has agreed. All our eggs are in one basket here and it’s short term, high risk stuff. the manager should not be dictating the setup of the off field football department. He can shape his backroom staff how he likes but the recruitment team/DOF should be something he has no control over. The whole point of having that set up is for it to be the one area of consistency during the managerial merry go round. You can't just hire a manager who comes in and rips it up. What if he's gone by Christmas? Then what?
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Post by edin on Sept 16, 2021 19:58:36 GMT
linkI’m just not convinced this is shrewd. Adams has walked in and dictated to Sparks that the set up he put in place has to go and Sparks has agreed. All our eggs are in one basket here and it’s short term, high risk stuff. the manager should not be dictating the setup of the off field football department. He can shape his backroom staff how he likes but the recruitment team/DOF should be something he has no control over. The whole point of having that set up is for it to be the one area of consistency during the managerial merry go round. You can't just hire a manager who comes in and rips it up. What if he's gone by Christmas? Then what? if Adams didn't like Turnbull then Sparks should've told him he's not the right man for the job then, its weak leadership to give in to him and go against your own beliefs
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 18, 2021 15:53:10 GMT
All our best players were here before Derek arrived Aye.
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Post by Dick on Sept 18, 2021 16:36:27 GMT
Makes you wonder how bad they'd be if we hadn't voted in favour of increasing season ticket prices.
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Post by ricksanchez on Sept 19, 2021 16:30:24 GMT
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Post by fish on Sept 20, 2021 13:16:19 GMT
Fair enough Derek. Nobody and I mean nobody saw this coming.
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Post by edin on Sept 20, 2021 19:26:28 GMT
Fair enough Derek. Nobody and I mean nobody saw this coming. if only there was a summer window to sort that out in
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Sept 20, 2021 19:40:04 GMT
Fair enough Derek. Nobody and I mean nobody saw this coming. if only there was a summer window to sort that out in The summer transfer window is a notoriously difficult period to attract the best players for league 2. Especially if you're a club that gets 16k crowds a week Especially not long after announcing big profits from the mcburnie transfer.
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 20, 2021 19:48:29 GMT
How on earth are we to believe that we’ll fix this mess in January? Given we’ve been told we had to ‘stretch the budget’ to sign garbage like Robinson with what are we going to perform this miraculous overhaul?
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Post by mikehunt on Sept 20, 2021 20:40:55 GMT
How on earth are we to believe that we’ll fix this mess in January? Given we’ve been told we had to ‘stretch the budget’ to sign garbage like Robinson with what are we going to perform this miraculous overhaul? You only need enough people to believe it to keep buying pay on the gate tickets and merchandise to keep the money rolling in. Repeat the story about the next window being the one ad nauseum and you keep the club in the black and one day you might get lucky with promotion.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 23, 2021 6:20:11 GMT
www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportlatest/19596383.adams-lays-line-bradford-city-squad-players/Derek is angry again today. A dozen or so games into the season and he's calling the players out again. He doesn't rate the much hyped youngsters and he certainly doesn't rate some of Turnbulls signings. So its Turnbulls fault if results don't pick up and Rupps fault if he doesn't get me the players i want. Season has the potential to fly off the rails spectacularly if form doesn't pick up, this isn't following the script we were handed when buying season tickets.
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