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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 24, 2021 8:28:46 GMT
My thoughts on the defence are that they're being overworked because the midfield in front of them are doing absolutely fuck all. The only way around it would be to move Paudie into the sitting 2 but that then means filling his gap. That cdm must be the first signing of the summer and it needs to be a belter. Also if Hull came in with any offer with a sell on for Watt I'd bite their hands off. A good offer for Watt and I'd take it, I agree. Though his recent performances will likely have deterred Hull. He ain't ready for League 1, never mind the championship. Sutton is the bigger problem though. He's full of running, which is good because we need some energy in there, but his use of the ball is shocking. He just runs into people. A quality addition or two in midfield would be just the platform that Rowe and Vernam need, because they have quality - they just spend nowhere near enough time around the box. Time for Wood and AOC to fuck off too. Wood's head has been gone for months, to me he knows he isn't staying and has already sorted a club out. AOC is an enigma sometimes brilliant sometimes abysmal but like FCD was he's now being targeted. Both Sutton and Watt would benefit from a Gary Jones/ Stuart McCall type alongside them but yet again that's been neglected. There's so much to do in the summer now and the bench should be filled with the likes of Sutton, Watt, Crankshaw, Vernam, Rowe to have some ability to change a game and our shape. First things first give Cooke a 2 year extension.
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Post by Hoochy on Mar 24, 2021 8:30:43 GMT
The last couple of games have rammed home just how poor the standard of the division is. These are professional footballers training every day and they can barely string 3 passes together.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 24, 2021 8:35:01 GMT
The last couple of games have rammed home just how poor the standard of the division is. These are professional footballers training every day and they can barely string 3 passes together. Some of the passing last night was borderline Sunday league. Even simple stuff like short passes or reading the game. There was one last night, can't remember if it was Evans or Crankshaw, dropped onto a loose ball 35 yards out and had the defender turned but instead of coming inside against the turn just ran the same way the defender had committed to go. Really basic stuff.
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 24, 2021 8:44:56 GMT
My thoughts on the defence are that they're being overworked because the midfield in front of them are doing absolutely fuck all. The only way around it would be to move Paudie into the sitting 2 but that then means filling his gap. That cdm must be the first signing of the summer and it needs to be a belter. Also if Hull came in with any offer with a sell on for Watt I'd bite their hands off. Moving Paudie into the midfield is a nailed on red card.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 24, 2021 9:00:42 GMT
My thoughts on the defence are that they're being overworked because the midfield in front of them are doing absolutely fuck all. The only way around it would be to move Paudie into the sitting 2 but that then means filling his gap. That cdm must be the first signing of the summer and it needs to be a belter. Also if Hull came in with any offer with a sell on for Watt I'd bite their hands off. Moving Paudie into the midfield is a nailed on red card. To be fair anywhere on the pitch he's a potential red card, he committed 2 yellow card tackles in the first 15mins and should have been sent off against Carlisle. He's just the only player we have who can tackle and move forward with the ball.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 24, 2021 9:08:47 GMT
Moving Paudie into the midfield is a nailed on red card. To be fair anywhere on the pitch he's a potential red card, he committed 2 yellow card tackles in the first 15mins and should have been sent off against Carlisle. He's just the only player we have who can tackle and move forward with the ball. Paudie is a centre back and nothing else, to suggest he could play in midfield is crackers.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 24, 2021 9:30:09 GMT
I know this is an outlandish theory, but it strikes me that the best way to build a good midfield is to sign good midfielders.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 24, 2021 9:32:22 GMT
The last couple of games have rammed home just how poor the standard of the division is. These are professional footballers training every day and they can barely string 3 passes together. I'm convinced that a huge amount of it is coaching.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 24, 2021 9:54:50 GMT
I know this is an outlandish theory, but it strikes me that the best way to build a good midfield is to sign good midfielders. It is but when was the last time we signed a good midfield? 2015/16 with Evans and Cullen in the middle? 16/17 with Cullen and Vince? In all honesty with this clubs previous efforts and it's current set up do you trust us to successfully get some?
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 24, 2021 10:41:12 GMT
Paudie is having to do the fouls and take the yellows because the two holding midfielders aren't doing it 25 yards further up the pitch. A cynical trip in the centre circle doesn't get a yellow but it does on the edge of our box. He's not a DM so moving him forward wouldn't work, though.
There's definite potential with Watt and Sutton, but what they need is a grizzled old pro like Jones in with them.
Clarke is a 10- it's literally the only position he's any good at- so why he's not played there as cover for Cooke is beyond me. Is he injured again?
The summer is important. This league is shit and even the only two decent teams in it- Tranmere and Bolton- aren't anything that special, they just have strikers who will reliably capitalise on mistakes. The secret to winning games in this league is making fewer mistakes than the other team. If we still had Doyle or Vaughan we'd be in the automatic spots, just like Bolton and Tranmere will be. Thanks for that Rhodes.
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Post by fish on Mar 24, 2021 11:04:14 GMT
Paudie is having to do the fouls and take the yellows because the two holding midfielders aren't doing it 25 yards further up the pitch. A cynical trip in the centre circle doesn't get a yellow but it does on the edge of our box. He's not a DM so moving him forward wouldn't work, though. There's definite potential with Watt and Sutton, but what they need is a grizzled old pro like Jones in with them. Clarke is a 10- it's literally the only position he's any good at- so why he's not played there as cover for Cooke is beyond me. Is he injured again? The summer is important. This league is shit and even the only two decent teams in it- Tranmere and Bolton- aren't anything that special, they just have strikers who will reliably capitalise on mistakes. The secret to winning games in this league is making fewer mistakes than the other team. If we still had Doyle or Vaughan we'd be in the automatic spots, just like Bolton and Tranmere will be. Thanks for that Rhodes. you're bang on with the fouls. Man City have mastered the art of it perfectly. They can afford to throw so many men forward because as soon as they lose the ball they swarm around the opposition and then either win the ball or make a foul. The foul is in the opposition half so avoids a booking even though its cynical. The first goal yesterday shows we need to be taught this. Watt reads Gillead's body feint the wrong way and tries to intercept a potential pass rather than going straight to the man to put pressure on him. Gillead with that drop of the shoulder works the space and is through. If Watt goes straight to Gillead and trips him without making it look too obvious, the goal doesn't happen and he gets away without a booking.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 24, 2021 11:10:38 GMT
Watt needs an enforcer next to him. Sutton ain't it. Watt, a midfield dominator, and Cooke, are a good 3. But we need a quality wide man too. Crankshaw looks increasingly raw to me. And we need full backs who can contribute on the ball. What the fuck happened to Hosannah?
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Post by mikehunt on Mar 24, 2021 16:00:57 GMT
It was a strange game. We had enough chances by the end to score 2 or 3 but then so did what was an average Scunthorpe side. With Cooke the balance isn't there either in attack or defence, its no coincidence Cooke is regularly the top metre maker in the side over 90 minutes. And without him the central two look very ordinary, Cooke allows Sutton to roam about. Without that roaming he has little to his game, he's not a player who can sit disciplined in a two. Not sure what has happened to Watt, his form has fallen off a cliff. For a central midfielder his passing stats are woeful, compare that to Cookes passing retention that is in the mid to to late eighties. Normally i'd be able to see a formation change but i can't with this lot. Our strikers are league 2 at best and thats all of them. Cook looked isolated and doesn't have the movement for a lone striker. We could try two up top but that would leave the midfield two even more exposed than they currently look. I'm not sold on the wide players at our disposal either, Evans is a squad player at best and the other two flatter to decieve. More worrying is the form of the defence which has turned on its head. Now back to the McCall era over the last couple of games with teams running straight through us. Wood looks nowhere near a move to a higher division and the centre backs look glaringly slow if teams can get at them on the deck. With Cooke in we looked solid without being spectacular, the team had a decent shape and we were hard to beat but never looked like dismantling the opposition. The 4-2-3-1 worked to a point. Take Cooke out and i'm not sure what formation works with what we have left although i am expecting Sparks will be seeing what we are seeing. Because the honeymoon period is over for all of them now and the results and performances will now be scrutinised from a more critical angle, something that we weren't reading due to the good run and the goodwill of the fans. Forget the good run, thats gone. Promotion too. The realisation of yet another league 2 season awaits and fans want answers. Which can only really be answered in the summer. Important the transfer window is used well because Sparks is going to come under pressure if we don't start the season well. My thoughts on the defence are that they're being overworked because the midfield in front of them are doing absolutely fuck all. The only way around it would be to move Paudie into the sitting 2 but that then means filling his gap. That cdm must be the first signing of the summer and it needs to be a belter. Also if Hull came in with any offer with a sell on for Watt I'd bite their hands off. I like Watt, there’s a player in him, Paudie and Watt could become City legends if they hang around and a team is built around them and they get into the championship. Watt’s tackling makes Paul Scholes look like Alessandro Nesta and there are too many misplaced passes. If Hull go up there is no way he is A Championship player on recent form.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 24, 2021 16:13:41 GMT
My thoughts on the defence are that they're being overworked because the midfield in front of them are doing absolutely fuck all. The only way around it would be to move Paudie into the sitting 2 but that then means filling his gap. That cdm must be the first signing of the summer and it needs to be a belter. Also if Hull came in with any offer with a sell on for Watt I'd bite their hands off. I like Watt, there’s a player in him, Paudie and Watt could become City legends if they hang around and a team is built around them and they get into the championship. Watt’s tackling makes Paul Scholes look like Alessandro Nesta and there are too many misplaced passes. If Hull go up there is no way he is A Championship player on recent form. There's a player in him but it's not in the position he's in. His passing is horrendous, he plays the Hollywood ball to nobody and his passing stats are massively bloated due to his success passing it backwards to the keeper and unmarked defenders. Yesterday he was shit and lazy and deserves both barrels. Is he worth trying at 10 ? Maybe but we've nobody to go in alongside Sutton. Out of the pair of them I prefer Sutton, he's quite limited in his ability but he influencesthe game far more than Watt and works hard rather than Watt who looks like he thinks league 2 is below him.
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