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Post by Lofty on Feb 13, 2019 6:30:10 GMT
I think you lot and most of our fans need a reality check. There were spells on Saturday where we were playing football. Those times Caddis was well forward, out wide, what options did he actually have? Ball, Payne, LOB weren’t showing for it. They weren’t in the box either. Those counters we had. Layed to waste because of poor movement, lack of tempo and bad decision making. Our squad is so hideously unbalanced though we can only get results by playing football. But we’re no good enough to carry passengers and we need 7s/8s across the board to get results. The players we have aren’t consistent enough for that. We can’t “switch it up” because we’ve no wingers, no shit houses. So up against a team of well organised big bastards we’re just not going to get through. All this “no plan B” shit is bollocks. The lack of variety in the squad means anything other than plan A will never work. Even plan A is big ask for this shower. I’ve forgotten what point I was making but I’m posting this anyway. Oh no, it was something like if you think we could’ve passed and ballerina’d our way through Fleetwood on Saturday you have lost your marbles. What, so it was the correct call to keep punting it to Miller either in the middle for the centre half to win or down the line to chase hopelessly? Absolute bollox. We've got footballers in our squad that have made it by being footballers. To suggest that a team of ogres, time wasters, and dark arts types should have them beat before the game kicks off disrespects their talent massively. It's HopkinS' job to scout the opposition and suggest how we play. It's also his job to change it mid game if it isn't working. I'd also suggest that's its absolutely paramount that he uses our best assets to the best of their ability by actively encouraging people to give them the ball rather than launching it over their heads. I love it when you get all serious. 😍
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Post by Neshead on Feb 13, 2019 6:37:19 GMT
I think you lot and most of our fans need a reality check. There were spells on Saturday where we were playing football. Those times Caddis was well forward, out wide, what options did he actually have? Ball, Payne, LOB weren’t showing for it. They weren’t in the box either. Those counters we had. Layed to waste because of poor movement, lack of tempo and bad decision making. Our squad is so hideously unbalanced though we can only get results by playing football. But we’re no good enough to carry passengers and we need 7s/8s across the board to get results. The players we have aren’t consistent enough for that. We can’t “switch it up” because we’ve no wingers, no shit houses. So up against a team of well organised big bastards we’re just not going to get through. All this “no plan B” shit is bollocks. The lack of variety in the squad means anything other than plan A will never work. Even plan A is big ask for this shower. I’ve forgotten what point I was making but I’m posting this anyway. Oh no, it was something like if you think we could’ve passed and ballerina’d our way through Fleetwood on Saturday you have lost your marbles. What, so it was the correct call to keep punting it to Miller either in the middle for the centre half to win or down the line to chase hopelessly? Absolute bollox. We've got footballers in our squad that have made it by being footballers. To suggest that a team of ogres, time wasters, and dark arts types should have them beat before the game kicks off disrespects their talent massively. It's HopkinS' job to scout the opposition and suggest how we play. It's also his job to change it mid game if it isn't working. I'd also suggest that's its absolutely paramount that he uses our best assets to the best of their ability by actively encouraging people to give them the ball rather than launching it over their heads. Hoochy>Jason McKeown
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Post by mikehunt on Feb 13, 2019 6:50:10 GMT
There are some fans looking forward to relegation so they can tick off league two grounds from the ones they haven't visited, i shit you not. And having 6,000 fans rattling around an deserted Valley Parade has a strange lure to the gompers of our fan base. Utterly fucking depressing. This is only my opinion but the fans job is to hold the club to account and is definitely not to throw good money after bad. Blindly supporting no matter what does not improve the club and in the long run does more damage than good. Fans like McKeown (although I have warmed to him) and Thornton peddling the club mantra does fuck all to help the club. Expect and demand better. Nah, McKeown is in my opinion disappearing up his own arse since WOAP apparently saved City from Edin. It’s not as bad as BfB though.
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Post by Hoochy on Feb 13, 2019 7:08:55 GMT
What, so it was the correct call to keep punting it to Miller either in the middle for the centre half to win or down the line to chase hopelessly? Absolute bollox. We've got footballers in our squad that have made it by being footballers. To suggest that a team of ogres, time wasters, and dark arts types should have them beat before the game kicks off disrespects their talent massively. It's HopkinS' job to scout the opposition and suggest how we play. It's also his job to change it mid game if it isn't working. I'd also suggest that's its absolutely paramount that he uses our best assets to the best of their ability by actively encouraging people to give them the ball rather than launching it over their heads. I love it when you get all serious. 😍 Ta.
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Post by Hoochy on Feb 13, 2019 7:09:15 GMT
What, so it was the correct call to keep punting it to Miller either in the middle for the centre half to win or down the line to chase hopelessly? Absolute bollox. We've got footballers in our squad that have made it by being footballers. To suggest that a team of ogres, time wasters, and dark arts types should have them beat before the game kicks off disrespects their talent massively. It's HopkinS' job to scout the opposition and suggest how we play. It's also his job to change it mid game if it isn't working. I'd also suggest that's its absolutely paramount that he uses our best assets to the best of their ability by actively encouraging people to give them the ball rather than launching it over their heads. Hoochy>Jason McKeown I'd like to think so.
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Post by Neshead on Feb 13, 2019 7:27:42 GMT
I like this serious Hoochy, he adds to our forum experience.
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Post by moshimoshi on Feb 13, 2019 8:41:03 GMT
I think you lot and most of our fans need a reality check. There were spells on Saturday where we were playing football. Those times Caddis was well forward, out wide, what options did he actually have? Ball, Payne, LOB weren’t showing for it. They weren’t in the box either. Those counters we had. Layed to waste because of poor movement, lack of tempo and bad decision making. Our squad is so hideously unbalanced though we can only get results by playing football. But we’re no good enough to carry passengers and we need 7s/8s across the board to get results. The players we have aren’t consistent enough for that. We can’t “switch it up” because we’ve no wingers, no shit houses. So up against a team of well organised big bastards we’re just not going to get through. All this “no plan B” shit is bollocks. The lack of variety in the squad means anything other than plan A will never work. Even plan A is big ask for this shower. I’ve forgotten what point I was making but I’m posting this anyway. Oh no, it was something like if you think we could’ve passed and ballerina’d our way through Fleetwood on Saturday you have lost your marbles. What, so it was the correct call to keep punting it to Miller either in the middle for the centre half to win or down the line to chase hopelessly? Absolute bollox. We've got footballers in our squad that have made it by being footballers. To suggest that a team of ogres, time wasters, and dark arts types should have them beat before the game kicks off disrespects their talent massively. It's HopkinS' job to scout the opposition and suggest how we play. It's also his job to change it mid game if it isn't working. I'd also suggest that it's absolutely paramount that he uses our best assets to the best of their ability by actively encouraging people to give them the ball rather than launching it over their heads. No, hoofing it to Miller isn’t the correct call. That’s not what I’ve said. I’m saying this team is not the mini Barca some folk think it is, and when our shit version of hi pressing quick attacking fails because of a lack of ability or a well organised defence we can’t effectively adopt a “plan B”, hoof for example, because all our players are 4ft 8. December isn’t the bench mark for this team, it was the high point.
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Post by Hobhead on Feb 13, 2019 10:04:32 GMT
What, so it was the correct call to keep punting it to Miller either in the middle for the centre half to win or down the line to chase hopelessly? Absolute bollox. We've got footballers in our squad that have made it by being footballers. To suggest that a team of ogres, time wasters, and dark arts types should have them beat before the game kicks off disrespects their talent massively. It's HopkinS' job to scout the opposition and suggest how we play. It's also his job to change it mid game if it isn't working. I'd also suggest that it's absolutely paramount that he uses our best assets to the best of their ability by actively encouraging people to give them the ball rather than launching it over their heads. No, hoofing it to Miller isn’t the correct call. That’s not what I’ve said. I’m saying this team is not the mini Barca some folk think it is, and when our shit version of hi pressing quick attacking fails because of a lack of ability or a well organised defence we can’t effectively adopt a “plan B”, hoof for example, because all our players are 4ft 8. December isn’t the bench mark for this team, it was the high point. But the fact remains that (and I agree with you here) playing football is the only thing this team are capable of then doing anything else is madness. Our best and only chance of winning games is to try and out attack and out football the opposition. Doing anything else, i.e. hoofing it, is asking for defeat. We might as well fail trying to play football because we’re guaranteed to fail punting it up top.
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Post by moshimoshi on Feb 13, 2019 19:08:47 GMT
Yea, but there were spells, albeit brief where we were trying to play on Saturday. But none of our proper footballers were showing for it. No one wanted it. Our biggest threat was Caddis but he may as well of been on his own. No one came short. No one got in the box.
If we get a repeat of this on Saturday I think it’s safe to say Hopperz isn’t able to motivate the players anymore. The final nail in our League 1 status coffin.
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