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Post by fish on Jan 20, 2019 13:01:18 GMT
So, if we go down do we keep Hopkin? Personally I'd like a full clear out of everything from the Edin era and it's not like we've got a master tactician in the dugout is it?
He seems to be getting things right behind the scenes on the training ground, but his transfers (or lack of) plus his baffling tactics and blind faith to certain under performers is worrying.
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 20, 2019 13:11:32 GMT
If he's backed properly this month and we go down with more of this long ball shite then he has to go.
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jan 20, 2019 13:39:30 GMT
No
Started out worse than Mickey cliché. Found a system that worked. Abandoned that system to prove that he's as bad as Mickey cliché.
Keeps playing Chicksen.
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Post by Lofty on Jan 20, 2019 14:13:07 GMT
I wouldn't keep him even if we stayed up.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jan 20, 2019 14:53:03 GMT
Can we get Wagner in on loan till end of the season from town due to our deal of being their bitch ?
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Post by ricky on Jan 20, 2019 16:54:36 GMT
Yes because this isn't his mess but he has to stop tinkering with players playing out of position and stick to December's winning formula.
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 20, 2019 16:59:28 GMT
We can’t keep reinventing ourselves either. I think we just need to back him and give him at least until the end of next season.
I think he’s a good manager, and could be good for us. But he needs to stop fucking about. As does Rupp.
What would 4 quality players cost between now and the summer? 4K pw each? 320k if he’s willing to pump 1.5m in, what’s an extra 300k to protect the value of his asset?
Just get it done FFS. Striker, midfielder, winger, left back. This week.
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Post by GoingGoingGomp on Jan 20, 2019 17:04:19 GMT
ShopSkinSonS (quadruple S from hereon in) can't be blamed for lack of transfer activity, can he? He's having to sack 5 players off per signing at present thanks to our dogshit squad pumped full of lazy quitters and injured reprobates.
The legacy of multi year contracts doled out like sweets won't disappear in the Summer.
We are well and truly lumbered.
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Post by benitocarbone on Jan 20, 2019 18:13:35 GMT
I keep changing my mind. I liked him at the start then he brought Bruenker on in the Sunderland home game to lump the ball to against ten men and I thought he was stupid. Then we had the good December and I warmed to him again but after the last couple of games he’s infuriated me by fucking about and changing a winning team and tactics.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Jan 20, 2019 19:04:45 GMT
If. Hahahaha.
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jan 20, 2019 19:41:05 GMT
Not planning on clapping for the rest of the season? If we all keep clapping really hard we might just get out of this mess.
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Post by Hoochy on Jan 20, 2019 19:59:57 GMT
Not planning on clapping for the rest of the season? If we all keep clapping really hard we might just get out of this mess. That's the spirit.
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Post by Neshead on Jan 20, 2019 20:59:01 GMT
Not planning on clapping for the rest of the season? If we all keep clapping really hard we might just get out of this mess. That's the spirit. JGBTLFFS.
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jan 20, 2019 21:25:07 GMT
Not planning on clapping for the rest of the season? If we all keep clapping really hard we might just get out of this mess. That's the spirit. Calls himself a fucking fan? We're down already with cunts like that not clapping at all.
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Post by Fat Ade on Jan 20, 2019 22:10:06 GMT
The thing is if we play football then I do expect us to be clear of relegation but if he carries on with hoofball then I think we will end up going down.
It’s a bizarre season of us either being brilliant or utterly dreadful and there is nothing in between. We do wilt at the first sign of adversity which is a massive worry but then if we do get ahead we seem to crack on.
If HopkinS takes us down then no way he can stay, if he keeps us up by playing football then he should probably stay but I fear without a Payne/Ball/O’Brien he will set us up as a hoofball unit and I don’t personally think I can sit through another season of that shite.
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Post by Hoochy on Jan 20, 2019 23:11:34 GMT
I can't understand why we've reverted to the hoof. Things were going so well in December, why would we stop knocking it around and hump it to Doyle instead? Baffling really. Find a formula that works then ditch it.
There's an interesting picture from training doing the rounds on Twitter of the 5 outcasts that have been told to find a club. Riley, Reeves, Jones, Patrick and Wright. I'd be tempted to get Reeves and Jones back into the 1st team squad. A fit Reeves with Akpan could be decent with Payne in front of them. Jones has always shown promise and could be better than Miller at least. Makes me think getting them out is all about releasing the cash to fund new players which is fair enough but if we can't get rid we may as well use the resources we have. Reeves in particular has good pedigree at this level in his correct position and way more than the lad we've signed from Posh.
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Post by citygentile on Jan 20, 2019 23:20:55 GMT
I haven't got the first idea what the manager is up to. They were flying and playing the best stuff we've seen for many a year.
He's ripped that up and turned them into the same old bag of shite again.
Perhaps winning and playing well just didn't sit right with his dour Scottish demeanour?
Perhaps he wants out and the only way to do that and claim a healthy payout is to get the sack at the earliest opportunity?
It's fucking baffling.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jan 21, 2019 4:43:41 GMT
I haven't got the first idea what the manager is up to. They were flying and playing the best stuff we've seen for many a year. He's ripped that up and turned them into the same old bag of shite again. Perhaps winning and playing well just didn't sit right with his dour Scottish demeanour? Perhaps he wants out and the only way to do that and claim a healthy payout is to get the sack at the earliest opportunity? It's fucking baffling. These last 2 games Hopkin has been less than active on the touchline it's almost like he hasn't given a shit
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Post by glasshalfempty on Jan 21, 2019 6:44:13 GMT
I don’t think Hopkin can create a side capable of performing in the upper reaches of League One. Not a fan. He’s tactically inept (demonstrated by insisting on long ball for far too long in Oct/Nov, the messing around with tactics in Jan and not changing things early enough when its obviously not working). If we go down, he’ll create a long ball side that will have a good shot at getting out of League Two, but will find it’s ceiling in mid table League One. If we stay up, I don’t think he can take us forward and push up the table to where we used to be.
All that being said, we’ve got to give him until at least the end of the season. Sack him now and no one would take the job. Sack him at the end of the season and I still don’t think anyone would take the job. So, we’re stuck for now.
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Jan 21, 2019 8:48:38 GMT
I think it's more a case that Southend stopped us playing and they shit themselves when they went 1-0 down so reverted to type..
Also in December we had a midfield full of energy and running unlike Saturday when we had Hopeless there moving out of the way of the ball.. A CM is something we're desperately need. This nonsense of players won't come when we're in the relegation zone does not wash with me. You pay them and they will come it's as simple as that.
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