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Post by Dick on May 3, 2024 8:17:23 GMT
No arguments with any of the retained calls. They're all spot on. Still plenty of shite to shift on from what's under contract. Wilson, Taylor, Odusina are all musts for the exit door. I'd be up for Smith, Richards, Odour and Stubbs all being fucked off too. Massive rebuild needed. Disagree with massive rebuild. They've shown they can do fine when set up correctly. Forwards are fine. Defence needs a left back. Midfielder maybe. It would be nice not to completely rip it up every season. Let the team improve. Agree on this. We're not a mess, it needs the right tweaking i.e not any more Ash Taylors and PR loans. We've got - Cook Kavanagh Young Smith Pointon Maybe Walker if he signs When was the last time we went into a season with goals / attacking threat not the priority? Fitness needs improving across the board as does game management, not necessarily a player recruitment issue.
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Post by Hobhead on May 3, 2024 8:45:55 GMT
Genuinely not arsed about Jamie Walker re-signing, in fact I hope he doesn’t. Looking at that line up do we even need him? We’ve got Pointon who should be getting as much game time as possible, Pattison who looked quality before his injury and space to sign a new midfielder who could cover both CM and CAM. Save a wage, save the physio’s time and don’t waste money on a man who turns up three times a season.
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Post by Hobhead on May 3, 2024 8:49:15 GMT
No arguments with any of the retained calls. They're all spot on. Still plenty of shite to shift on from what's under contract. Wilson, Taylor, Odusina are all musts for the exit door. I'd be up for Smith, Richards, Odour and Stubbs all being fucked off too. Massive rebuild needed. Disagree with massive rebuild. They've shown they can do fine when set up correctly. Forwards are fine. Defence needs a left back. Midfielder maybe. It would be nice not to completely rip it up every season. Let the team improve. More of a debuild than a rebuild. The first team only needs three maybe four additions but there’s plenty of kak to trim from the squad.
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Post by Hobhead on May 3, 2024 8:51:00 GMT
Wright and Oyegoke being mentioned again. Of those I’d be more pissed off if we signed Wright and I’ve have no idea why Alexander would want him given how woeful he’s been in his second spell. He looks awful. Oyegoke at least shows flashes but I wouldn’t be busting a gut to sign him either. Wright isn't a lwb, I'd possibly bin Smith off for him and have him as an impact sub Watching him play and it looks to run a little deeper than being positional. He looks like his fire’s gone out. He wouldn’t be anywhere near my plans if I were on transfers. He’s another one of those who you look at and think there simply has to be better, more exciting options out there.
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Post by Hoochy on May 3, 2024 9:32:52 GMT
Wright isn't a lwb, I'd possibly bin Smith off for him and have him as an impact sub Watching him play and it looks to run a little deeper than being positional. He looks like his fire’s gone out. He wouldn’t be anywhere near my plans if I were on transfers. He’s another one of those who you look at and think there simply has to be better, more exciting options out there. Agree with this. Wright has flashes but both here and at Plymouth he's been unable to hold a spot in the team. Let's not take unnecessary gambles.
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Post by bantam147 on May 3, 2024 10:39:10 GMT
No arguments with any of the retained calls. They're all spot on. Still plenty of shite to shift on from what's under contract. Wilson, Taylor, Odusina are all musts for the exit door. I'd be up for Smith, Richards, Odour and Stubbs all being fucked off too. Massive rebuild needed. Disagree with massive rebuild. They've shown they can do fine when set up correctly. Forwards are fine. Defence needs a left back. Midfielder maybe. It would be nice not to completely rip it up every season. Let the team improve. I don't see this club going up without 3 or 4 of the contracted players going, and 6 or 7 quality players coming in. We need at least 2 quality CBs, a left wing back, 2 midfielders and 2 forwards, in my view. Whether that constitutes a massive rebuild is subjective I suppose. But that's the scale of what's needed.
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Post by bantam147 on May 3, 2024 10:41:42 GMT
Disagree with massive rebuild. They've shown they can do fine when set up correctly. Forwards are fine. Defence needs a left back. Midfielder maybe. It would be nice not to completely rip it up every season. Let the team improve. Agree on this. We're not a mess, it needs the right tweaking i.e not any more Ash Taylors and PR loans. We've got - Cook Kavanagh Young Smith Pointon Maybe Walker if he signs When was the last time we went into a season with goals / attacking threat not the priority? Fitness needs improving across the board as does game management, not necessarily a player recruitment issue. I just don't see the goal threat you do. Cook will be another year older, not sure what he's got in the tank. But the bigger question marks are Kavanagh and Smith. Neither can finish. Young coming in will help. But we need to bin Smith off, and bring in one, maybe 2 quality attacking players. We need 2 midfielders to add to Smallwood, Pointon, Walker and Pattison. A left Wing Back is a must, a backup right back is a must, and the only CBs we have are Platt and Stubbs. I'm not including Taylor, for obvious reasons.
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Post by Dick on May 3, 2024 11:21:53 GMT
Agree on this. We're not a mess, it needs the right tweaking i.e not any more Ash Taylors and PR loans. We've got - Cook Kavanagh Young Smith Pointon Maybe Walker if he signs When was the last time we went into a season with goals / attacking threat not the priority? Fitness needs improving across the board as does game management, not necessarily a player recruitment issue. I just don't see the goal threat you do. Cook will be another year older, not sure what he's got in the tank. But the bigger question marks are Kavanagh and Smith. Neither can finish. Young coming in will help. But we need to bin Smith off, and bring in one, maybe 2 quality attacking players. We need 2 midfielders to add to Smallwood, Pointon, Walker and Pattison. A left Wing Back is a must, a backup right back is a must, and the only CBs we have are Platt and Stubbs. I'm not including Taylor, for obvious reasons. We've got threat spread out through, not just all on one man like in the past. Cook's been top scorer the last 4 seasons, he may not get 30 or 20 again but 15 wouldn't be impossible and a good return if others are chipping in. Kavanagh reminds me of Wells in a way with his positioning, swagger and arrogance and 5 in 15 for a 20 year old who came in in Janauary - who was written off by a lot of us - isn't a bad return. Certainly will go up in value if he can get 15+ next year. Young - who knows. Elephant in the room - depends if we want to play him or want to cash in. If he have to replace with quality and not Oliver or a thoughtless freebie. Oliver - Meh. 3 year deal, not worked at all, try to flog. Smith - controversial opinion - he's okay as a realistic backup / option for pointless cup games given our circumstances unless we want to move him on and can find better. He's more miss than hit but I'd have him over Oliver for goal threat. The reality is we're L2 - we're not going to spend money anyway, nevermind on new forwards to sit on the bench. We'll probably get a single long term loanee to replace Oliver & Derbyshire. Again, being L2 we'll have to take with the likes of Pattison and Walker if he signs. Personally I don't think we'll see much of Pattison next year, he's going to be the next injury crock. It's a long way from Hughes where it was cook on 30 and Banks on 5.
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Post by benitocarbone on May 3, 2024 17:19:09 GMT
I know that many on here don’t agree but I think that Walker is key for us. Even with injuries I think that in this set up he's a ten goal a season midfielder and he also gets the best out of the other midfielders too. With him in there I think that Patto and Bobby can chip in with ten each too which I don’t think that they do as easily if Walker isn’t playing.
I just think as @dick said it’s refreshing to go into a season feeling that we might not struggle for goals for once or that we aren’t over reliant on one player (Cook).
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Post by bantam147 on May 3, 2024 21:17:31 GMT
Only the bottom 4, plus Gillingham and Harrogate scored fewer goals than us. We scored 61 goals. The top three were 90 plus.
Where's this goal threat? We need to seriously raise our bar.
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Post by Hoochy on May 4, 2024 13:01:53 GMT
Only the bottom 4, plus Gillingham and Harrogate scored fewer goals than us. We scored 61 goals. The top three were 90 plus. Where's this goal threat? We need to seriously raise our bar. I take your point, we have struggled to score goals this season but I think we've improved. Kavanagh has scored a few, and BP coming into the team makes us much more potent. Also Young to return and Walker found form although I'm a bit sceptical of his season long form.
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Post by benitocarbone on May 4, 2024 13:44:27 GMT
Only the bottom 4, plus Gillingham and Harrogate scored fewer goals than us. We scored 61 goals. The top three were 90 plus. Where's this goal threat? We need to seriously raise our bar. I take your point, we have struggled to score goals this season but I think we've improved. Kavanagh has scored a few, and BP coming into the team makes us much more potent. Also Young to return and Walker found form although I'm a bit sceptical of his season long form. This. Since we moved to the 352 with two AMs we had both Bobby and Walker scoring at a rate that would get them 10 goals each across a season. Patto also started the season at a similar rate. Kavanaghs rate would get him 15 across a season too and then you’ve got Cook and Young to add to that. All in all we’ve looked a lot more threatening in front of goal in the last couple of months. No guarantee that it continues of course but it’s looking better than it has done before.
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Post by Neshead on May 4, 2024 13:44:37 GMT
Only the bottom 4, plus Gillingham and Harrogate scored fewer goals than us. We scored 61 goals. The top three were 90 plus. Where's this goal threat? We need to seriously raise our bar. Both Pattison and Young to come back and they both are goal scorers, Kavanagh looks a decent prospect. Pointon has goals in him. Walker too if fit. Our problem might not be the players but how the manager plays them and in what formation. Oh and I forgot about Cook.
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Post by Neshead on May 4, 2024 13:47:08 GMT
I take your point, we have struggled to score goals this season but I think we've improved. Kavanagh has scored a few, and BP coming into the team makes us much more potent. Also Young to return and Walker found form although I'm a bit sceptical of his season long form. This. Since we moved to the 352 with two AMs we had both Bobby add Walker scoring at a rate that would get them 10 goals each across a season. Patto also started the season at a similar rate. Kavanaghs rate would get him 15 across a season too and then you’ve got Cook and Young to add to that. All in all we’ve looked a lot more threatening in front of goal in the last couple of months. No guarantee that it continues of course but it’s looking better than it has done before. Two or three starting quality players and this squad should be good enough to at least hit the playoffs. Whether it's good enough to hit the autos remains to be seen
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Post by Hoochy on May 4, 2024 14:23:00 GMT
Saw a tweet saying that we've been 5th in the form table since GA took over and that's with some very poor runs of results included. They seemed to find something for those last half dozen games that we can only hope is something to build on. Having Sharpe in gives me some expectation that we'll perform better in the transfer market.
It's always hope that carries you through.
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Post by Dick on May 4, 2024 14:23:07 GMT
People are a more confident in the goalscoring area as we've Young back. He scored 16 before January, obviously doesn't count for us but it is a source of goals if we can figure out how to use hin.
When Hughes left, we'd scored 12 in 11 and 4 of those in one game. Under GA we scored 44 in 35, so somewhat of an improvement.
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Post by benitocarbone on May 4, 2024 18:41:47 GMT
This. Since we moved to the 352 with two AMs we had both Bobby add Walker scoring at a rate that would get them 10 goals each across a season. Patto also started the season at a similar rate. Kavanaghs rate would get him 15 across a season too and then you’ve got Cook and Young to add to that. All in all we’ve looked a lot more threatening in front of goal in the last couple of months. No guarantee that it continues of course but it’s looking better than it has done before. Two or three starting quality players and this squad should be good enough to at least hit the playoffs. Whether it's good enough to hit the autos remains to be seen Agreed. Priority for me is keeping Platt and Walker then adding a Brad Halliday type for the left side, a quality ball playing pacy RCB and a nasty bastard for CM. The worry is that GA seems to think that Wright and Oyegoke are the answer to two of those positions and that Smallwood doesn’t need upgrading on for the other.
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