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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2019 7:33:34 GMT
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Post by Lofty on Dec 3, 2019 7:41:37 GMT
He'll say whatever suits his audience at the time. No time for him. Stole a wage with us in his non playing stint.
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Post by Neshead on Dec 3, 2019 7:46:39 GMT
Quite an honest interview, a bit different to his defence of 'shambolic' dealings at the time. Heard him doing talksport commentary the other week and to be fair he was pretty good. As for being a scout, i'm surprised just how many so called 'scouts' can't spot a good player from a bad one. I sometimes wonder what criteria they actually go through on their tick list when analysing potential recruits. Look at our players for example, Vaughan can't play the way Donaldson does but we play him that way anyway, resigning the likes of Anderson and Devine (wtf), signing Josh Wright, playing Chicksen before Connor Wood, the list of completely insane decisions with absolutely no logic is never ending. I get that with any sport you sometimes have a bad day at the office or come up against a team bang on form but the amount of times i see a management team shoot themselves in the foot with ridiculous formations or player choices beggars belief. Always think the best coaches, the likes of Klopp, Eddie Howe, Chris Wilder etc, have a great eye for a player and stick to their strategy, not constantly chopping and changing.
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2019 8:01:01 GMT
Quite an honest interview, a bit different to his defence of 'shambolic' dealings at the time. Heard him doing talksport commentary the other week and to be fair he was pretty good. As for being a scout, i'm surprised just how many so called 'scouts' can't spot a good player from a bad one. I sometimes wonder what criteria they actually go through on their tick list when analysing potential recruits. Look at our players for example, Vaughan can't play the way Donaldson does but we play him that way anyway, resigning the likes of Anderson and Devine (wtf), signing Josh Wright, playing Chicksen before Connor Wood, the list of completely insane decisions with absolutely no logic is never ending. I get that with any sport you sometimes have a bad day at the office or come up against a team bang on form but the amount of times i see a management team shoot themselves in the foot with ridiculous formations or player choices beggars belief. Always think the best coaches, the likes of Klopp, Eddie Howe, Chris Wilder etc, have a great eye for a player and stick to their strategy, not constantly chopping and changing. I think a lot of it stems from just giving jobs to ex players. Either because they’re a big name (watch Rooney flop) or because they’re an ex player of the team they’re working at (Abbott). It’d be some coincidence if the best man for a particular job also happened to have been the biggest name as a player or just happened to have played at the club they’re trying for a job at. When you account for the fact that most players are thicker than my morning shit then it’s no wonder the game’s riven with inept fuckwitts.
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Post by Neshead on Dec 3, 2019 8:15:25 GMT
Quite an honest interview, a bit different to his defence of 'shambolic' dealings at the time. Heard him doing talksport commentary the other week and to be fair he was pretty good. As for being a scout, i'm surprised just how many so called 'scouts' can't spot a good player from a bad one. I sometimes wonder what criteria they actually go through on their tick list when analysing potential recruits. Look at our players for example, Vaughan can't play the way Donaldson does but we play him that way anyway, resigning the likes of Anderson and Devine (wtf), signing Josh Wright, playing Chicksen before Connor Wood, the list of completely insane decisions with absolutely no logic is never ending. I get that with any sport you sometimes have a bad day at the office or come up against a team bang on form but the amount of times i see a management team shoot themselves in the foot with ridiculous formations or player choices beggars belief. Always think the best coaches, the likes of Klopp, Eddie Howe, Chris Wilder etc, have a great eye for a player and stick to their strategy, not constantly chopping and changing. I think a lot of it stems from just giving jobs to ex players. Either because they’re a big name (watch Rooney flop) or because they’re an ex player of the team they’re working at (Abbott). It’d be some coincidence if the best man for a particular job also happened to have been the biggest name as a player or just happened to have played at the club they’re trying for a job at. When you account for the fact that most players are thicker than my morning shit then it’s no wonder the game’s riven with inept fuckwitts. I think of the players just over the last couple of years that you see first time and know they are going to be better than our level. Lewis O'Brien last season for instance, comes on as sub in his first ever game at league level and instantly looked better than veteran pros like Josh Wright and Akpan. No surprise to me he is now a championship regular. Josh Cullen the same, they stand out like a sore thumb because our game at lower league level is full of players stealing a wage because of exactly what you mention above. I mean, what sort of cunt would deny Connor Wood development time by playing Adam Chicksen in front of him. Used to see Wood regularly leaving the kop car at VP straight after full time in his Fiesta with a look of utter despondancy on his face. Its stems from a pet hate of mine when gompers use one of their go to joker cards 'lets leave it (insert managers name) to them, they're professional and get paid for this so they are automatically better than you rank and file scum bag fans'. Thing is, i think football is one business where the professionals are often less intelligent than the fans when it comes to making football decisions.
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Post by Nice boy on Dec 3, 2019 10:18:56 GMT
Good read that. Summat a little different.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Dec 3, 2019 11:20:06 GMT
I really don't care, all it is is Parker helping clear a mates name, it's the level his journalism is at. Our club is standing still nothing happening and he has papers to sell. Just the same on his mason bit last week, nobody really cares. What's happened has happened nobody can change that now, they could if they had listened to us but they didn't and I've got little time for people trying to score points now that cunt has gone
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2019 11:59:01 GMT
It’s all well and good Abbott saying now how he was overruled by Rahic but Abbott was always front and centre giving us the hard sell on how players like Josh Wright were a great capture. They ‘offered us something different’ apparently. I suppose that was true in some ways - they offered a level of effort and commitment the like of which we’ve never seen before.
Either Abbott signed these players and believed in them or he was out front helping to con the fans into buying into a madman’s pipedream. If it’s the former then he’s incompetent and if it’s the latter then he’s partly responsible for the creation of the atmosphere he’s now railing against.
He could come out and name players he was overruled on as evidence of his expertise given we’d now have the benefit of hindsight and could see, by virtue of said player’s career trajectory, how right Abbott was. Instead I’ll give you two players that Abbott openly stated we’re ones he’d personally watched and recommended: Adam Chicksen and Jacob Hanson. Stellar stuff, Greg.
Greg comes out of this either looking like a dope or a twat and a couple of T&A articles aren’t going to fix it.
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Post by hobbes on Dec 3, 2019 12:09:54 GMT
Never trust a football scout with a squint.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Dec 3, 2019 12:24:22 GMT
Quite an honest interview, a bit different to his defence of 'shambolic' dealings at the time. Heard him doing talksport commentary the other week and to be fair he was pretty good. As for being a scout, i'm surprised just how many so called 'scouts' can't spot a good player from a bad one. I sometimes wonder what criteria they actually go through on their tick list when analysing potential recruits. Look at our players for example, Vaughan can't play the way Donaldson does but we play him that way anyway, resigning the likes of Anderson and Devine (wtf), signing Josh Wright, playing Chicksen before Connor Wood, the list of completely insane decisions with absolutely no logic is never ending. I get that with any sport you sometimes have a bad day at the office or come up against a team bang on form but the amount of times i see a management team shoot themselves in the foot with ridiculous formations or player choices beggars belief. Always think the best coaches, the likes of Klopp, Eddie Howe, Chris Wilder etc, have a great eye for a player and stick to their strategy, not constantly chopping and changing. I think a lot of it stems from just giving jobs to ex players. Either because they’re a big name (watch Rooney flop) or because they’re an ex player of the team they’re working at (Abbott). It’d be some coincidence if the best man for a particular job also happened to have been the biggest name as a player or just happened to have played at the club they’re trying for a job at. When you account for the fact that most players are thicker than my morning shit then it’s no wonder the game’s riven with inept fuckwitts. Bournemouth is a great example of a club who have professionalised their set up way beyond the rest of football, and look how far above their weight they’re punching just by not employing ‘football men’. Sam Allardyce employed some similar tricks at Bolton and was pretty successful. It’s not even really that difficult, just employ intelligent, mathematically literate people in your recruitment department and a bit of tie in with the plying strategy. Two half competent analysts wouldn’t cost much more than £150k a year all in, and would save you more than that by not signing josh wright on £4000 a week.
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Post by Dick on Dec 3, 2019 12:41:30 GMT
I think a lot of it stems from just giving jobs to ex players. Either because they’re a big name (watch Rooney flop) or because they’re an ex player of the team they’re working at (Abbott). It’d be some coincidence if the best man for a particular job also happened to have been the biggest name as a player or just happened to have played at the club they’re trying for a job at. When you account for the fact that most players are thicker than my morning shit then it’s no wonder the game’s riven with inept fuckwitts. Bournemouth is a great example of a club who have professionalised their set up way beyond the rest of football, and look how far above their weight they’re punching just by not employing ‘football men’. Sam Allardyce employed some similar tricks at Bolton and was pretty successful. It’s not even really that difficult, just employ intelligent, mathematically literate people in your recruitment department and a bit of tie in with the plying strategy. Two half competent analysts wouldn’t cost much more than £150k a year all in, and would save you more than that by not signing josh wright on £4000 a week. It's like the Mason arse licking he gets every 3 months when he announces a new job - what he did were the absolute basics, but it worked as in terms of marketing, sales and relationship building and customer and sponsor level we were fucking terrible. I work in a wider marketing team and the club were shockingly bad, even at the free things. If we could just bring professionalism into more areas, corporate, football, backroom like you said it would give us a better platform if we ever compete again outside of league 2. The aim for this club should always be Champsionship level at least, so its frustrating some of those quick wins are never employed.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Dec 3, 2019 12:58:05 GMT
Bournemouth is a great example of a club who have professionalised their set up way beyond the rest of football, and look how far above their weight they’re punching just by not employing ‘football men’. Sam Allardyce employed some similar tricks at Bolton and was pretty successful. It’s not even really that difficult, just employ intelligent, mathematically literate people in your recruitment department and a bit of tie in with the plying strategy. Two half competent analysts wouldn’t cost much more than £150k a year all in, and would save you more than that by not signing josh wright on £4000 a week. It's like the Mason arse licking he gets every 3 months when he announces a new job - what he did were the absolute basics, but it worked as in terms of marketing, sales and relationship building and customer and sponsor level we were fucking terrible. I work in a wider marketing team and the club were shockingly bad, even at the free things. If we could professionalism more areas, corporate, football, backroom like you said it would give us a better platform if we ever compete again outside of league 2. The aim for this club should always be Champsionship level at least, so its frustrating some of those quick wins are never employed. Pointy Shoes might have done the bare minimum, but look at how much of an improvement it made. We don’t need the worlds greatest analysts or marketing and bus dev guys, just average would be a massive improvement.
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Post by Dick on Dec 3, 2019 13:16:04 GMT
It's like the Mason arse licking he gets every 3 months when he announces a new job - what he did were the absolute basics, but it worked as in terms of marketing, sales and relationship building and customer and sponsor level we were fucking terrible. I work in a wider marketing team and the club were shockingly bad, even at the free things. If we could professionalism more areas, corporate, football, backroom like you said it would give us a better platform if we ever compete again outside of league 2. The aim for this club should always be Champsionship level at least, so its frustrating some of those quick wins are never employed. Pointy Shoes might have done the bare minimum, but look at how much of an improvement it made. We don’t need the worlds greatest analysts or marketing and bus dev guys, just average would be a massive improvement. Exactly. When you operate at zero in so many areas, and standard of expertise is an improvement.
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Post by twosup on Dec 3, 2019 13:51:19 GMT
What was the accusation levelled at him at the fans forum where Abbo said it was offensive?
Like Pointy he should have walked at the first opportunity and shouted from the rooftops what was going on at the club.
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2019 13:58:35 GMT
What was the accusation levelled at him at the fans forum where Abbo said it was offensive? Like Pointy he should have walked at the first opportunity and shouted from the rooftops what was going on at the club. Somebody labelled the recruitment ‘a shambles’. For all Abbott’s umbrage, history shows that a random fan at a forum knows more about recruitment than Abbott.
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Post by Hoochy on Dec 3, 2019 14:07:50 GMT
Never trust a football scout with a squint. He's picking on the disableds now. It's no wonder your band arsed out m8.
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Post by mikehunt on Dec 3, 2019 14:10:23 GMT
What was the accusation levelled at him at the fans forum where Abbo said it was offensive? Like Pointy he should have walked at the first opportunity and shouted from the rooftops what was going on at the club. Somebody labelled the recruitment ‘a shambles’. For all Abbott’s umbrage, history shows that a random fan at a forum knows more about recruitment than Abbott. It’s this, his cancer aside, that ruins any shred of sympathy I may have for Abbo, defending the shit signings. Either he said yeah they were my signings they were shit and resigned, or he said Edin overruled me so I have to resign. TCA was well ahead of the curve in calling out Rahic’s bullshit, Abbo could have done it even sooner.
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 3, 2019 14:33:47 GMT
Aye his cancer battle is fair mitigation for some, but not all of his 'contribution'.
Look at his comment on Doyle. 'Wrong club, wrong time. Now hes at Swindon, right club at rye right time and hes scoring for fun'.
So there we have it lads. All about luck. Not tactics, or having the right players around him. Just luck.
We should stop scouting and having coaches and a manager and just employ someone to perform gypsy magic.
Actually, that's probably not a bad idea.
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Post by Nice boy on Dec 3, 2019 14:34:23 GMT
The Rahic era with Abbott leading recruitment was fucking glorious.
We could have a thread where we list their various misdemeanours, we've not had one of those before.
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2019 14:46:43 GMT
Aye his cancer battle is fair mitigation for some, but not all of his 'contribution'. Look at his comment on Doyle. 'Wrong club, wrong time. Now hes at Swindon, right club at rye right time and hes scoring for fun'. So there we have it lads. All about luck. Not tactics, or having the right players around him. Just luck. We should stop scouting and having coaches and a manager and just employ someone to perform gypsy magic. Actually, that's probably not a bad idea. Those three dozen goals just weren’t to be for for us. No need for introspection or any form of analysis; it just wasn’t our turn. I’m sure we’ll get a prolific striker again one day and the best way to go about it is to just wait.
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