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Post by Nice boy on Jul 17, 2019 18:39:46 GMT
Who are they?
Lewis O'Brien- He's probably the only one on this list who I actually rate and is a pretty decent player. In the eyes of many thought he's good enough to be playing in the Championship which is ridiculous. I think our fans in general underestimate the quality needed for that league and LOB is not up to the required standard just yet. Part of the reason he got so much adulation was because he was the only half decent player in our team and we'd become so accustomed to seeing utter shit every week.
James Hanson- Think about how poor he was for large chunks of his city career and factor in that half our fan base thought he was one the most feared lower league strikers out there. Under no circumstances was anything ever his fault- he was the perfect striker (and defender for that matter) who was always an asset and even somehow managed to create a top end Championship player in Nahki Wells. Mention his flaws and there weren't any. Mention that we we needed better and he was irreplaceable.
You won't find any other player who's fans are as fanatical and devoted as James Hanson's.
Tyrell Robinson- Although it's easy to forget now, there was a lot of hype surrounding him when he first came onto the scene. Some used him as a justification for Edin's philosophy. Others thought he was going to be a superstar and would eventually earn us millions. We're now in a division lower and to be frank, I'd be seriously underwhelmed if he was starting games for us next season.
Will Atkinson- Got to be up there. Will Atkinson is now used as an example as to why we shouldn't be so hasty to write off shit players such as Jermaine Anderson. I think our fans were just desperate for a fairytale story where a player lambasted turns himself into a city hero and proves everyone wrong against all the odds. Now don't get me wrong, I love a good underdog story but Atkinson's time here did not emptomise one and contrary to the more glamourised version the Gompers like to spew, he was nothing more than a bang average league 2 player.
Reeves- Better than Cullen.
Feel free to add your own.
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Post by fish on Jul 17, 2019 18:55:44 GMT
Hanson all day long, absolute fucking donkey that lad. If it weren't for Nahki he'd have been back stacking shelves in the co op years ago, he's been living off that reputation for years. Fifty pence head and only one partner in his entire time here knew where the fuck his flicks were going which says it all.
He's another, like panzer who has fuck all ability but is "big" and "puts himself about" a bit yet is idolised by our pathetic fan base.
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Post by Neshead on Jul 17, 2019 18:57:55 GMT
Who are they? Lewis O'Brien- He's probably the only one on this list who I actually rate and is a pretty decent player. In the eyes of many thought he's good enough to be playing in the Championship which is ridiculous. I think our fans in general underestimate the quality needed for that league and LOB is not up to the required standard just yet. Part of the reason he got so much adulation was because he was the only half decent player in our team and we'd become so accustomed to seeing utter shit every week. James Hanson- Think about how poor he was for large chunks of his city career and factor in that half our fan base thought he was one the most feared lower league strikers out there. Under no circumstances was anything ever his fault- he was the perfect striker (and defender for that matter) who was always an asset and even somehow managed to create a top end Championship player in Nahki Wells. Mention his flaws and there weren't any. Mention that we we needed better and he was irreplaceable. You won't find any other player who's fans are as fanatical and devoted as James Hanson's. Tyrell Robinson- Although it's easy to forget now, there was a lot of hype surrounding him when he first came onto the scene. Some used him as a justification for Edin's philosophy. Others thought he was going to be a superstar and would eventually earn us millions. We're now in a division lower and to be frank, I'd be seriously underwhelmed if he was starting games for us next season. Will Atkinson- Got to be up there. Will Atkinson is now used as an example as to why we shouldn't be so hasty to write off shit players such as Jermaine Anderson. I think our fans were just desperate for a fairytale story where a player lambasted turns himself into a city hero and proves everyone wrong against all the odds. Now don't get me wrong, I love a good underdog story but Atkinson's time here did not emptomise one and contrary to the more glamourised version the Gompers like to spew, he was nothing more than a bang average league 2 player. Reeves- Better than Cullen. Feel free to add your own. A bit if a harsh view but a fair few of the ‘history makers.’ As a squad they achieved a cup final and a promotion, as individuals most were bang average. Take out Wells and some huge slices of luck in the cup and a lot of that promotion season was tough to watch. Success gained by a solid back four and a striker destined for way better things.
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Post by Dick on Jul 17, 2019 19:01:45 GMT
Hanson was fine in L2, I liked him.
It's when the gomper mentality came out after in that he was somehow being rewarded in we tried to build a side around him for L1 and long term that makes him overrated.
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Post by Lofty on Jul 17, 2019 19:27:42 GMT
If Hanson wasn't local he'd have been hounded out years before.
Was useful for a couple of years pre 2013 but even when injuries and ability took their toll he was still lauded as this mythical superstar which probably meant he got more grief from the likes of us than he would've.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 17, 2019 19:35:26 GMT
Hanson. Easy. In League Two where all he had to do was smash people about he was ok; dare I say it he ‘did a job’.Once we hit League One, where you find a little bit more actual football, he was out of his depth. His followers though just wouldn’t see it, most until after he’d left and been replaced by Wyke but some even now.
He was fucking awful. An anti-footballer. And they loved him.
Barring Hanson I’d have gone Atkinson for all the reasons listed above. Went from utter shit to scale the dizzy heights of normal, everyday shit. Our fans though thought he’d turned Brazilian. Dogshit player.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 17, 2019 19:43:25 GMT
A bit if a harsh view but a fair few of the ‘history makers.’ As a squad they achieved a cup final and a promotion, as individuals most were bang average. Take out Wells and some huge slices of luck in the cup and a lot of that promotion season was tough to watch. Success gained by a solid back four and a striker destined for way better things. I always thought McCardle was overrated. That’s not to say he was shit, he was decent but no more. He’d run through a brick wall and stick his head in a threshing machine if you threw a ball in but cultured and riddled with footballing ability he was not. He was a solid, better than average lower league defender but our fans had him down as a League Two John Terry. In a back four of Davies, Darby, Meredith and McCardle the latter was easily the weak link.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jul 17, 2019 19:51:40 GMT
Atkinson was garbage and everyone thought so till pp said he's pivotal to the team and fans don't understand his importance. And like sheep fans just believed him, in reality nothing changed he was shit and remained shit for as long as he was here.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 17, 2019 19:56:47 GMT
Hanson in League 1. Certainly over rated.
It's a tough one really.We haven't really had that many good players have we? So overrated in our context is really about wondering which players were seen as ok but were actually shit.
I always thought Des Hamilton was overrated.
Danny Devine. People flowering up his performances cos hes local. But hes shit.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 17, 2019 19:59:46 GMT
A bit if a harsh view but a fair few of the ‘history makers.’ As a squad they achieved a cup final and a promotion, as individuals most were bang average. Take out Wells and some huge slices of luck in the cup and a lot of that promotion season was tough to watch. Success gained by a solid back four and a striker destined for way better things. I always thought McCardle was overrated. That’s not to say he was shit, he was decent but no more. He’d run through a brick wall and stick his head in a threshing machine if you threw a ball in but cultured and riddled with footballing ability he was not. He was a solid, better than average lower league defender but our fans had him down as a League Two John Terry. In a back four of Davies, Darby, Meredith and McCardle the latter was easily the weak link. Yeah I get where you're coming from there.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 17, 2019 20:01:21 GMT
We should have a 'biggest letdown' thread. We'd be here all fucking week.
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Post by tetchyarse on Jul 17, 2019 20:27:32 GMT
Biggest letdown? John McGinlay.
Des Hamilton was vastly overrated, fuck knows how we got £1.5m for him.
Hanson? I hate the phrase, but he did a job in League Two. League One was his limit, sure, but he was a solid lower league targetman. Parky knackered him before we flogged him to Sheffield Utd. And compared to some of the shit we had before him (Barry Conlon says hi...)!
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Post by Dick on Jul 17, 2019 20:30:28 GMT
A bit if a harsh view but a fair few of the ‘history makers.’ As a squad they achieved a cup final and a promotion, as individuals most were bang average. Take out Wells and some huge slices of luck in the cup and a lot of that promotion season was tough to watch. Success gained by a solid back four and a striker destined for way better things. I always thought McCardle was overrated. That’s not to say he was shit, he was decent but no more. He’d run through a brick wall and stick his head in a threshing machine if you threw a ball in but cultured and riddled with footballing ability he was not. He was a solid, better than average lower league defender but our fans had him down as a League Two John Terry. In a back four of Davies, Darby, Meredith and McCardle the latter was easily the weak link. Yep, but that back 4 though were excellent as a unit, and at L2 something like that goes a long way. Compare that to last season, the back 4 looked like they all played other sports. He did have a nice near post header though.
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Post by hobbes on Jul 17, 2019 20:30:39 GMT
After an enforced break from watching City due to having my lad on Saturdays after I split with his mum (which very conveniently for me started when we got relegated to the khazi league and ended when we finally looked like getting out of it) and I started taking him in 2013, I had no idea who anyone one was. My first game in that time was Arsenal, being a glory supporter, before I went semi regularly for the rest of the season, and of all that history makers team, I think Atkinson was the most anonymous. I cant remember anything about him, how he played, fast, slow, nothing.
Also, before Davies left, everyone thought McArdle was a donkey and panicked when he had the ball. After Davies left he was transformed in gompers imaginations to the illegitimate son of Terry Butcher and Bobby Moore.
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Post by Dick on Jul 17, 2019 20:34:20 GMT
Other letdowns -
Aaron McLean. But he was on the slide anyway.
That Scottish guy we signed illegally and ended up paying a massive fine for.
Isaiah Rankin - was carried by Mills and Blake otherwise fans would have turned on him for his price tag.
Keith Gillespie - obviously past it but wed have done better with one of those old fuckers in their 70s that plays walking football.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 17, 2019 20:47:30 GMT
Letdowns - 90% of the strikers weve ever signed.
90% of the young cast offs weve signed from man united. And there have actually been quite a few.
Akpan. Nothing like what I expected.
Lee Sharpe. Petrescu. Cadete. Hopkin - twice over. Erik Regtop.
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Post by Nice boy on Jul 17, 2019 20:59:26 GMT
Most of our biggest let downs were under PP. I remember one season when Anderson, Yeates, Morris, Davies and Marshall were all warming the bench. We basically pushed the boat out for Parkinson to waste it on overpaid shit or talent he had no idea how to use. Add in that our league 2 promotion was almost solely down to a player he didn't even sign and you can make a case for PP being overrated too, albeit a controversial one given what he achieved here.
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Post by Bradford Wild Boars. on Jul 17, 2019 21:18:01 GMT
I don't know if he was universally rated but Eddie Johnson seemed to be well liked by the people sat near me. Signed as the 'new Dean Windass' and ended up moving into midfield because he needed a map to find the goal.
My all time most hated City player.
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Post by Bradford Wild Boars. on Jul 17, 2019 21:20:45 GMT
To add I think Andrew Davies seems to be underrated by the masses , presumably because of the injuries. Great player.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2019 21:21:18 GMT
2008/09 season we probably had the biggest budget in league 2 and Stuart made some massive signings that division. Most of them were massive letdowns.
Graeme Lee, Paul McClaren, Chris Brandon, Michael Boulding (and Rory), Keith Gillespie all shite
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