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Post by Hoochy on Nov 20, 2018 18:08:23 GMT
That email has made me post on here for the first time it's that bad. That pseudo-Marxist nonsense reads exactly like all the deluded Commie revolutionaries that higher education is littered with. Embarrassing from a supposed formal organisation. Post more. But do get an avatar before someone finds you one that might be a bit fruity. Did you find your own fruity one m8?
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Post by Hobhead on Nov 20, 2018 18:21:54 GMT
Post more. But do get an avatar before someone finds you one that might be a bit fruity. Did you find your own fruity one m8? Wearing it with pride m9. It reminds me of Monopoly.
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Post by Neshead on Nov 20, 2018 18:34:06 GMT
That email has made me post on here for the first time it's that bad. That pseudo-Marxist nonsense reads exactly like all the deluded Commie revolutionaries that higher education is littered with. Embarrassing from a supposed formal organisation. Post more. But do get an avatar before someone finds you one that might be a bit fruity. Leave it to me 😐.
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Post by mikehunt on Nov 20, 2018 18:38:33 GMT
So I understand now. Apparently it's now linked on the BCST Twitter or Facebook account. Given the amateurish and incomprehensible nature of the email, complete with grammatical, spelling and punctuation errors, I fail to understand how a semi-formal body like the BCST would want to be associated with such ramblings! Haven't they learned anything from their earlier utterance? They deserve everything they get. I have no idea how the Trust is structured but unless Manny is supreme despot then somebody from within needs to clip his wings at the very least but preferably organise a coup. He’s all but made the Trust redundant. Revolutionaries like Brother Manny don’t have coups, they’re too mean and militaristic. They going to over throw the egotistical bourgeois monied classes but not by being mean to anyone, or anything that can be construed as bullying, misogynistic or transphobic. Freedom for Manningham! Power to the People!
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Post by Hoochy on Nov 20, 2018 19:01:52 GMT
Post more. But do get an avatar before someone finds you one that might be a bit fruity. Leave it to me 😐. Clear ur cache m8
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Post by claw on Nov 23, 2018 16:31:51 GMT
There’s nothing political about what he’s saying. He’s just being weak. Being a leader of an organisation, any organisation, means you need to stand up for who you represent, it doesn’t mean you have to be a prick, you can criticise anyone without calling them a cunt..He’s not fit to do the job, he needs to fuck off.
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Post by Hoochy on Dec 7, 2018 18:07:57 GMT
The next dose. Manny introduced the email and flogged the agm but interestingly this article is written by the treasurer. Still a load of bollockless waffle.
Dear members,
Bradford City began the season with
· a new and untried team;
· a new and untried ‘Head Coach’, rather than a traditional manager;
· the departure of certain trusted professionals behind the scenes;
· an apparent determination to centralise the control of the club in the hands of the
Chairman, and
· a new business model that emphasised the development of young players, leading to
the impression that we would become a nursery club for other teams.
The accent throughout was on a clean slate, and on youth over experience.
This was a high-risk strategy. Each of these new approaches involved some element of risk, but in order for the club to succeed all these approaches had to come good at the same time, and the chances of that happening were very low indeed. It is worth noting that if this new strategy had worked out against the odds, the owners of the club would be hailed accordingly for bringing a whole new model to the English Football League.
In the event, this did not happen. Results on the field failed to materialise despite an early change of Coach, and the club began sinking towards the bottom of the League. A growing disconnect developed between the supporters and the club, with an increasingly vociferous campaign of opposition to the owners.
This was the diagnosis of the club’s difficulties presented to the Bradford City Chairman by the Supporters Trust in October, when he agreed to meet us to discuss the situation. Trust members and other fans had put forward a large number of questions that were collected together, collated, and presented to the Chairman under three main headings:
· What were the reasons for the decline in the club’s fortunes since January?
· What was the club’s thinking on the current crisis?
· What were the remedies and prospects for the future?
It is fair to say that Edin Rahic answered these tough questions politely and directly, and there was no flinching from the fans’ opinions. There was none of the fraught communication that has sometimes occurred on similar occasions in the past. A report of the meeting was published by the Trust, and it was agreed to continue the meetings as a constructive response to the club’s predicament. A schedule of dates for these meetings was pencilled in, stretching into Spring 2019.
It was mentioned at the meeting that the Chairman had been in touch behind the scenes with Julian Rhodes. A few days afterwards, it was announced that Julian had become involved more directly at the club in order to support the owners’ efforts to reverse the downward drift. It has just been confirmed at the time of writing that Edin Rahic has now stepped down as Chairman, and that Julian Rhodes has been appointed as Interim CEO.
As Bradford City fans we appreciate the key positive role played by the Rhodes’ family. It would be a huge understatement to say that their efforts and commitment have contributed enormously towards keeping the club going through two administrations and three relegations. More recently, they appointed Phil Parkinson, and presided as majority shareholders over the history-makers’ season of 2013.
The return of Julian Rhodes has been a timely move. It has enabled the club to draw more directly on his vast knowledge and experience, and it served to connect the club more closely with fans. It will be a matter for history to understand how the club’s current predicament was allowed to arise. The important point now is not to dwell on the past but to move forward, and to direct all our energies into the battle that the club faces on the pitch at a time when the fans are needed the most.
The magnitude of the task ahead cannot be downplayed– from assuming that we would be play-off contenders every season, all eyes are focussed now on avoiding relegation. As John Hendrie said so powerfully in his resumed column in the T&A, it is a moment for everyone with the club’s interests at heart to work together to help ensure a tolerable outcome to the season.
If the mood has changed in a positive direction off the field, a number of the original questions remain largely unanswered:
· Is David Hopkin effectively the manager now rather than a Head Coach?
· Has the balance changed between the recruitment of young players and more
experienced professionals?
· Has the balance changed between investments in the first team and investments in
infrastructure?
· Is there enough professional support on the administrative side of the club?
· Is the majority shareholder Stefan Rupp still committed to his financial involvement?
· What is planned for the January transfer window?
… and then the question that fans can hardly bear to ask:
· How bad do the finances look?
These questions will continue to be a matter of concern to all supporters, even as the club hopefully begins to progress in the right direction. And other questions will no doubt come to the fore of supporters’ minds as the coming weeks unfold. The Trust’s view is that it is much better all round if the answers to these questions come from solid information exchanged in a professional setting, rather than through a cacophony of gossip and rumour conducted so often these days through social media. The professional alternative is what ‘structured dialogue’ is all about. The club is obliged to undertake this according to the rules of the English Football League that were passed in 2016. It is especially important in the current situation at Bradford City, where there is an urgent need to give fans all the information they deserve to know, in a way that respects the necessary safeguards on confidentiality and the interests of the club. Reassurance amongst supporters that they know what’s going on – what the basic plans are and where the priorities lie – will be a big factor in itself in helping us to survive in League One, and to progress thereafter.
Julian Rhodes was unfailingly courteous in the past in his dealings with supporters’ groups. The Trust Board is confident that he will honour the commitment made by the previous Chairman of the club to continue the series of meetings with The Supporters Trust. This will enable members of the Trust and all fellow fans to put forward the points that concern them most, and receive their answers directly from the club.
Together in City.
Alan Carling
Treasurer
BCST
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Post by ricksanchez on Dec 7, 2018 18:20:11 GMT
"It is worth noting that if this new strategy had worked out against the odds, the owners of the club would be hailed accordingly for bringing a whole new model to the English Football League."
Don't fucking fink so. It's not a new strategy and it's failed to work out at numerous clubs including ours (twice now).
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 7, 2018 18:56:33 GMT
I prefer Manny's unhinged rambling.
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Post by mikehunt on Dec 7, 2018 19:20:47 GMT
Fucking hell. I’d hate to see him deliver a motivational speech. Boring cunt.
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Post by moshimoshi on Dec 7, 2018 19:33:29 GMT
Fuck reading that.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Dec 7, 2018 19:47:09 GMT
We at the cows arse need to guard against complacency after a successfull campaign against Rahic.
Without a new focus the forum could mirror UKIP after the referendum result, struggling to stay relevant while gomperism regains a foothold.
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Post by Bantam In Exile on Dec 7, 2018 19:50:23 GMT
Can’t be arsed reading it because it’s the usual BCST Baba. If anyone does could they post a one sentence synopsis please.
Is Hoochy really a bender ??
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Post by Nice boy on Dec 7, 2018 21:11:21 GMT
what's he on? The model consisted of picking up shit players for next to nothing and somehow trying to maufacture them in million pound players using third rate training facilities at that. It was pure fantasy and had literally zero chance of succeeding, so stop pretending like it did you cunt.
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Post by Dick on Dec 7, 2018 23:49:28 GMT
'If this new strategy had worked....
Oh fuck off. Fuck right off. Well it didn't did it? The whole thing was a farce from the start.
Look at the state of our involvement with German players and the German leagues- no doubt Rupp was fed total shit from Rahic about his background and links in that area.
They thought because it was morally a right thing to do it would bring success.
The whole thing was like some doomsday cult, like Jim Jones and Jonestown; it was heading towards disaster but the lunatic in charge still convinced his followers he was right and the path they were taking was the one true correct one.
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Post by Neshead on Dec 8, 2018 8:28:34 GMT
Can’t be arsed reading it because it’s the usual BCST Baba. If anyone does could they post a one sentence synopsis please. Is Hoochy really a bender ?? Hoochy is indeed a bender. As for that 'email' from the supporters trust, that in a nutshell is the reason they should be as far away from any sort of dialogue as possible.
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Post by Hoochy on Dec 9, 2018 12:13:34 GMT
Image Thank YOU For Your Support & Brief Plug For Our AGM / Fans' Open Meeting
Dear Members,
Thank you for your support in these changing and testing times for all of us.
We would like to explain that the Trust, is a community society that is part of a wider body of football supporters held together through a national organisation that has the best interests of football supporters at it's core.
Supporters Direct and Football Supporters Federation that we affiliate to have now merged but will remain separate entities for the foreseeable future. The unified national supporters movement and supporters trusts share principles that put fans first through their policies that we adopt every year.
Structured Dialogue is a key policy that we have always adopted as a way of working with the clubs that we love and support as a way of achieving the best for YOU, the fans, whether it is to improve the match day experience or ownership of a club.
At our meeting tomorrow, Monday 10th December, we will have Deborah Dilworth (EFL Network Manager) from Supporters Direct, up from London, so if you would like to find out more please come along.
Yours fraternally,
Manny Dominguez
BCST Chair
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Dec 9, 2018 18:30:05 GMT
Image We would like to explain that the Trust, is a community society that is part of a wider body of football supporters held together through a national organisation that has the best interests of football supporters at it's core.
*crying laughing emoji*
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Post by Dick on Dec 9, 2018 21:04:24 GMT
Image We would like to explain that the Trust, is a community society that is part of a wider body of football supporters held together through a national organisation that has the best interests of football supporters at it's core.
*crying laughing emoji* Hahahahahahahaha Becuase they really care about football supporters. Really. Just ask them about topics such as ticket and merchandise prices, late changes of kick off time to suit television and the ineptitude of all governing bodies to enforce any sort of fit and proper person test and you'll see how little fans and their supposed representative groups are considered.
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Post by Hoochy on Dec 12, 2018 17:52:18 GMT
Someone needs to take over the communications for a start... Play YOUR Role in The Supporters Trust Dear Members, We are writing to ask you to think about joining our Trust Board or its' Committee of elected/nominated members that represent this Trust. What does it involve? It involves attending one meeting a month or half of them at the very minimum. We have approximately between 10 and 11 a year. There maybe a perception that we are very political, and that is because the news that we put out is predominantly, and especially at the present time, has been about the ownership of our club and establishing a link and so on. Of course this is the central focus of what we are trying to do but the truth is it should be about much more than ownership or match day issues. We potentially can have a branch of the Supporters Trust that organises supporters social gatherings inviting past or present players at the Club, we could have a travel club, or darts club or whatever it is interests you. The Trust has the opportunity to be much, more than the essential side of what the Trust does, and at the moment the present Trust Board does the most it can in one area only. You out there have the key to unlock the potential for the Trust to do more. We would like to promote benefits to you so that we are more than what we are at present, where you get membership discounts from where you eat and drink for example. Talent Undoubtedly there is a lot of talent out there. I'm sure there are many organisers, fundraisers, sales people and those experienced in publicity, campaigning for a charity or otherwise. We welcome open-minded supporters from all walks of life, backgrounds, gender, sexual orientation and abilities and would be keen for the Trust Committee to represent as a diverse group of peoples as possible. if you want to express an interest in being a Board member of the Trust and discuss with us about the role please go to www.bcst.co,uk/contact/. Yours fraternally, Manny Dominguez
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