sedg
Due Diligence Bantam
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Post by sedg on May 7, 2024 19:14:28 GMT
Pretty embarrassing stuff. Up to 40 hours?! I'm assuming the performance analyst is just an hour a week of shouting "shit bastard" at Ash Taylor.
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Post by Dick on May 7, 2024 20:40:22 GMT
"But it's the same at other clubs"
It's like my 7 year old misbehaving and coming up with the excuse the other kids were doing it.
You're a bad mong if you're a grown up trying to justify it with that argument.
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Post by tetchyarse on May 8, 2024 7:44:25 GMT
I'm assuming the performance analyst is just an hour a week of shouting "shit bastard" at Ash Taylor. To be fair, most of us pay £300 a year for the privilege of calling Ash Taylor a useless cunt for two hours a week. As for the “volunteering opportunities”, it sums up SparksY and Gloop perfectly. We’d save a few quid by exploiting a student wanting work experience rather than paying to do it properly. No wonder any kids with any talent leave our academy as soon as they can.
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grandad
Sparks is a cunt Bantam
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Post by grandad on May 8, 2024 10:06:01 GMT
Maybe a proof reader on 30 bob and a packet of crisps should be considered
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Post by Dick on May 8, 2024 10:14:07 GMT
There's a few over on the other board who are defending it. Saying things like it happens elsewhere, can lead to more lucrative employment in the future etc
If you think reasons like those are good ones, you're a complete shitweasel.
There should be no justification for people working 40+ hours, in skilled roles, to be unpaid. Unless it is in a specific volunteer or charity role, but we are a private business that tries to make profit.
I'm in a field where a lot of young professionals are often asked to do unpaid work, the promise of more to come or the clichéd 'foot in the door' into the company. It's not even that much of a lucrative career anymore, with a lot of mid-level salaries barely hitting £30k.
Many fuck it off, and rightly so, as the employers that don't value time with payment are often really crappy employers to work for. Unfortunately there's a lot of desperate people who fuel this culture.
Do not support it - it could be you profession which does it next.
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Post by garyrobson on May 8, 2024 10:34:51 GMT
There's a few over on the other board who are defending it. Saying things like it happens elsewhere, can lead to more lucrative employment in the future etc If you think reasons like those are good ones, you're a complete shitweasel. There should be no justification for people working 40+ hours, in skilled roles, to be unpaid. Unless it is in a specific volunteer or charity role, but we are a private business that tries to make profit. I'm in a field where a lot of young professionals are often asked to do unpaid work, the promise of more to come or the clichéd 'foot in the door' into the company. It's not even that much of a lucrative career anymore, with a lot of mid-level salaries barely hitting £30k. Many fuck it off, and rightly so, as the employers that don't value time with payment are often really crappy employers to work for. Unfortunately there's a lot of desperate people who fuel this culture. Do not support it - it could be you profession which does it next. U a pimp?
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Post by hammstrasse on May 8, 2024 12:32:43 GMT
There's a few over on the other board who are defending it. Saying things like it happens elsewhere, can lead to more lucrative employment in the future etc If you think reasons like those are good ones, you're a complete shitweasel. There should be no justification for people working 40+ hours, in skilled roles, to be unpaid. Unless it is in a specific volunteer or charity role, but we are a private business that tries to make profit. I'm in a field where a lot of young professionals are often asked to do unpaid work, the promise of more to come or the clichéd 'foot in the door' into the company. It's not even that much of a lucrative career anymore, with a lot of mid-level salaries barely hitting £30k. Many fuck it off, and rightly so, as the employers that don't value time with payment are often really crappy employers to work for. Unfortunately there's a lot of desperate people who fuel this culture. Do not support it - it could be you profession which does it next. It appears one of those who is shouting the loudest in support is our old friend Joe "Police Report" Calvey. He was called out on there for being Birky Bantam and since being called out Joe's twitter by all accounts has been put on protected mode. I mean who didn't see such a gomper behind crap like this?
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Post by Neshead on May 9, 2024 20:34:04 GMT
There's a few over on the other board who are defending it. Saying things like it happens elsewhere, can lead to more lucrative employment in the future etc If you think reasons like those are good ones, you're a complete shitweasel. There should be no justification for people working 40+ hours, in skilled roles, to be unpaid. Unless it is in a specific volunteer or charity role, but we are a private business that tries to make profit. I'm in a field where a lot of young professionals are often asked to do unpaid work, the promise of more to come or the clichéd 'foot in the door' into the company. It's not even that much of a lucrative career anymore, with a lot of mid-level salaries barely hitting £30k. Many fuck it off, and rightly so, as the employers that don't value time with payment are often really crappy employers to work for. Unfortunately there's a lot of desperate people who fuel this culture. Do not support it - it could be you profession which does it next. It ain't morally right but that's the way the world works, especially in the cut throat world of football where folk will literally sell their own kids to get some of the football kudos. As long as you have folk desperate to get on the ladder (a bit like a certain mascot) then you'll have a supply of free labour
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sedg
Due Diligence Bantam
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Post by sedg on May 9, 2024 21:40:22 GMT
It's the inconsistency I don't like. If you're looking at not wanting to pay people with no skills, experience or knowledge, then why is Sparks getting a wage?
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Post by Hobhead on May 10, 2024 6:25:55 GMT
It's the inconsistency I don't like. If you're looking at not wanting to pay people with no skills, experience or knowledge, then why is Sparks getting a wage? Meow!
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Post by Lofty on May 10, 2024 9:59:45 GMT
How can people genuinely believe that Richmond getting carried away is the reason we're bumbling about in League Two 24 years done the line?? After 2 admins and countless different owners.
How many other clubs have gone into admin, reset and gone on to bigger and better things??
Wouldn't swap the Premier League years for anything.
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Post by Neshead on May 11, 2024 9:48:44 GMT
How can people genuinely believe that Richmond getting carried away is the reason we're bumbling about in League Two 24 years done the line?? After 2 admins and countless different owners. How many other clubs have gone into admin, reset and gone on to bigger and better things?? Wouldn't swap the Premier League years for anything. Where the fuck do you even start with a comment like that? Richmond gave this club the only prolonged period of success it can remember but folk want to change history to suit their narrative. You can't just decide you want another year in a division, that ruins the rest of the story.
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Post by tetchyarse on May 11, 2024 15:15:13 GMT
ITV Digital going bust fucked over a lot of clubs that year. We weren’t the only ones. Thing is, the other clubs who went bust as result recovered, and we didn’t. That’s on our owners.
It’s a real shame Mark Lawn didn’t have Gloop’s bank balance, we’d be in the Championship if he had.
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Post by Dick on May 11, 2024 16:24:42 GMT
ITV Digital going bust fucked over a lot of clubs that year. We weren’t the only ones. Thing is, the other clubs who went bust as result recovered, and we didn’t. That’s on our owners. It’s a real shame Mark Lawn didn’t have Gloop’s bank balance, we’d be in the Championship if he had. It's easy to blame Richmond or ITV Digital because the first walked, the second went bust, and it was so long ago. We have a dreadful habit as a fanbase to only go after those who've left, never those who are there (until it's too late). The real catastrophe in terms of bad football decisions at the top was when we went down in 2007, thanks to Captain Admin's fire sale in the transfer window just to save money after Christmas. Won 2 games after New Year, went down, hired Stuart and dinosaurs after him and it set us back years. Wrecked any hope of improvement or investment in infrastructure as we rotted away in League 2 and with JR in charge. It wasn't just the 6 weeks of madness, or ITV Digital alone. Everything we did from 2002-2007 was just the wrong decision. Then most of the activity from 2016-2023 has also been bad decision after bad decision.
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Post by BingomoanyBob on May 11, 2024 16:54:51 GMT
I just don’t understand the anti-Richmond mentality at all. If you were a City fan at the time you got our first win at Wembley, a new, massive (at the time) stand opened by the Queen (not a royalist but still…), speeches on the pitch, balls-out optimism, several bloody great teams the likes of which we might not see again and some of the best football (and players) I’ve ever seen.
Even with hindsight, for the promotion and survival seasons I’d go through the last 24 years of shite again.
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Post by hammstrasse on May 13, 2024 9:06:57 GMT
I just don’t understand the anti-Richmond mentality at all. If you were a City fan at the time you got our first win at Wembley, a new, massive (at the time) stand opened by the Queen (not a royalist but still…), speeches on the pitch, balls-out optimism, several bloody great teams the likes of which we might not see again and some of the best football (and players) I’ve ever seen. Even with hindsight, for the promotion and survival seasons I’d go through the last 24 years of shite again. What cheeses me off is It's his one mistake, that seems to be an excuse for dire failure over and over and over. These are the teams who have been into Admin since we were in admin and are currently higher up the leagues that we are, Barnsley, Leicester, Port Vale, Luton Town, Derby County, Ipswich Town, MK Dons (formerly Wimbledon), Wrexham, Cambridge United, Rotherham, Crawley, Leeds, Bournemouth, Southampton, Stockport, Crystal Palace, Portsmouth, Plymouth Argyle, Coventry, Bolton & Wigan. Thats 21 teams off the top of my head that are above us in the league but have suffered financial hardship since we suffered ours. You could add QPR and Hull City but they went into Admin just before we did, but they are in a far better position than we are and have been for some time, both being in the Premiership for years on end. There are about 3 such as Bury, Darlington or Scunthorpe that our gompers cling to as at least we aren't them in their attempts to accept utter dross, but the truth of the matter is the vast majority of teams that have been through what we have, have got over it and not used it as an excuse two decades later.
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Post by Lofty on May 13, 2024 10:15:09 GMT
Could be Bury m9.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on May 13, 2024 11:17:30 GMT
If Crawley do go up, you can imagine how all the gompers will perform mental gymnastics to justify how Rupp and Sparks are better than WAGMI
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Post by Lethal Jizzle2 on May 13, 2024 12:39:01 GMT
Yeovil have spent more time than us in the championship in the last 15 years, let that sink in
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Post by Neshead on May 13, 2024 13:37:51 GMT
Yeovil have spent more time than us in the championship in the last 15 years, let that sink in Yeah but did they win the fa cup in 1911? I'll wait.
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