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Post by Hoochy on Nov 14, 2021 22:57:02 GMT
Honestly, we aren't that bad. Under Bowyer we created fuck all. This team creates enough chances to win most games. Vernams miss yesterday summed up why we are in 11th, he takes that chance before their goal and we win that game cos they were bang average and that was the best form team in the division. We've played four of the best sides in the division the last four games and we should have won all four. So we are doing a lot of the basics right. Just a dire lack of quality in front of goal which kills us. Yesterday we drew because we were defensively abysmal and not clinical enough in front of goal. Our defence is poor because they're overrun as our midfield can't tackle. We really are poor all over The goal yesterday was down to the defenders, surely. They had every chance to block it, get a foot in or hack it away.
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Post by edin on Nov 15, 2021 11:38:25 GMT
Yesterday we drew because we were defensively abysmal and not clinical enough in front of goal. Our defence is poor because they're overrun as our midfield can't tackle. We really are poor all over The goal yesterday was down to the defenders, surely. They had every chance to block it, get a foot in or hack it away. Paudie has two chances to hack him down and take his yellow and Songo'o just embarrassed himself
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Post by Dick on Nov 20, 2021 19:15:37 GMT
Our home league form is P9 W3 D5 L1. I could make it look worse by adding the cup games in.
Hartlepool aside we haven't been comfortably beaten in the league at VP and some will say if we could just turn some of those draws into wins then we'll be flying.
But this stinks of turning into Bowyerball. We saw Bowyer hanging on in terms of performances and pure luck (OGs and penalties) covering up his dire attacking approach. As usual we got it right and knew once it dried up and we took a few beatings fans would openly turn on him.
We could be close if we could just turn some draws into wins, but at the same time if we take a few beatings at home fans will turn like they did with Bowyer.
January will be a flop. And if we havent tied down Vernam and Cooke by then they'll both be off.
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Post by tetchyarse on Nov 20, 2021 19:43:53 GMT
I don't think we're at Bowyerball levels yet, nome of the draws have been lucky, but equally we don't look good enough to turn them into wins.
I'm not convinced by Adams, but I wouldn't get rid, we do need stability until we can get rid of the parasitic German.
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Post by Dick on Nov 20, 2021 20:42:02 GMT
I don't think we're at Bowyerball levels yet, nome of the draws have been lucky, but equally we don't look good enough to turn them into wins. I'm not convinced by Adams, but I wouldn't get rid, we do need stability until we can get rid of the parasitic German. Not yet, but if we really start paying the price and not take chances and lose a few at H home and the morale / confidence drops he may struggle be able to pick them back up again, not with our total lack of threat/ spark. One thing for sure is manager and team will get a hammering if we can't beat Scunthorpe next week.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Nov 20, 2021 21:13:51 GMT
I don't think we're at Bowyerball levels yet, nome of the draws have been lucky, but equally we don't look good enough to turn them into wins. I'm not convinced by Adams, but I wouldn't get rid, we do need stability until we can get rid of the parasitic German. I don't want to get rid but the football on show is every bit as bad as anything since the Millwall final. Personally I'm sat here watching games trying to find a reason to go to the games and I can't. Boxing day, local derby, seeing the family it's natural to go regardless of the position you're in but I simply cannot justify going to watch the shitshow we serve up. In fact I'd encourage you all to join me at Sedgefield races to get wankered and waste hundreds of pounds on drunk betting. It'll be much more enjoyable
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Post by Dick on Nov 20, 2021 21:26:57 GMT
I don't think we're at Bowyerball levels yet, nome of the draws have been lucky, but equally we don't look good enough to turn them into wins. I'm not convinced by Adams, but I wouldn't get rid, we do need stability until we can get rid of the parasitic German. I don't want to get rid but the football on show is every bit as bad as anything since the Millwall final. Personally I'm sat here watching games trying to find a reason to go to the games and I can't. Boxing day, local derby, seeing the family it's natural to go regardless of the position you're in but I simply cannot justify going to watch the shitshow we serve up. In fact I'd encourage you all to join me at Sedgefield races to get wankered and waste hundreds of pounds on drunk betting. It'll be much more enjoyable I got a ST but missed 3 games so far due to other things - all things the wife has booked us onto. Today it was the van Gogh thing in Manchester (yeah, look at us trying to be cultured) - in the past I would have said she could do it once and then all other home games are my days, but now I'm thinking fuck it, I'd rather do something I'll actually enjoy. Wife has zero interest in football but even she's taking the piss out of our results. It's been a downward trajectory for 4.5 years now and I'm bored of it. And I'm not the only one it seems. I don't want to get rid of DA, but he has to be properly backed in the next 2 windows. If he's reduced to available and cheap options then Rupp can get fucked for not backing him and Adams has to call him out on it, and not do a Greg Abbott.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Nov 20, 2021 21:53:52 GMT
I don't want to get rid but the football on show is every bit as bad as anything since the Millwall final. Personally I'm sat here watching games trying to find a reason to go to the games and I can't. Boxing day, local derby, seeing the family it's natural to go regardless of the position you're in but I simply cannot justify going to watch the shitshow we serve up. In fact I'd encourage you all to join me at Sedgefield races to get wankered and waste hundreds of pounds on drunk betting. It'll be much more enjoyable I got a ST but missed 3 games so far due to other things - all things the wife has booked us onto. Today it was the van Gogh thing in Manchester (yeah, look at us trying to be cultured) - in the past I would have said she could do it once and then all other home games are my days, but now I'm thinking fuck it, I'd rather do something I'll actually enjoy. Wife has interest in football but even she's taking the piss out of our results. It's been a downward trajectory for 4.5 years now and I'm bored of it. And I'm not the only one it seems. I don't want to get rid of DA, but he has to be properly backed in the next 2 windows. If he's reduced to available and cheap options then Rupp can get fucked for not backing him and Adams has to call him out on it, and not do a Greg Abbott. van gogh? That's not for onion picklers
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Post by hobbes on Nov 21, 2021 2:33:47 GMT
I got a ST but missed 3 games so far due to other things - all things the wife has booked us onto. Today it was the van Gogh thing in Manchester (yeah, look at us trying to be cultured) - in the past I would have said she could do it once and then all other home games are my days, but now I'm thinking fuck it, I'd rather do something I'll actually enjoy. Wife has interest in football but even she's taking the piss out of our results. It's been a downward trajectory for 4.5 years now and I'm bored of it. And I'm not the only one it seems. I don't want to get rid of DA, but he has to be properly backed in the next 2 windows. If he's reduced to available and cheap options then Rupp can get fucked for not backing him and Adams has to call him out on it, and not do a Greg Abbott. van gogh? That's not for onion picklers Or opinion picklers…..
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Post by mikehunt on Nov 21, 2021 8:09:03 GMT
I don't want to get rid but the football on show is every bit as bad as anything since the Millwall final. Personally I'm sat here watching games trying to find a reason to go to the games and I can't. Boxing day, local derby, seeing the family it's natural to go regardless of the position you're in but I simply cannot justify going to watch the shitshow we serve up. In fact I'd encourage you all to join me at Sedgefield races to get wankered and waste hundreds of pounds on drunk betting. It'll be much more enjoyable I got a ST but missed 3 games so far due to other things - all things the wife has booked us onto. Today it was the van Gogh thing in Manchester (yeah, look at us trying to be cultured) - in the past I would have said she could do it once and then all other home games are my days, but now I'm thinking fuck it, I'd rather do something I'll actually enjoy. Wife has interest in football but even she's taking the piss out of our results. It's been a downward trajectory for 4.5 years now and I'm bored of it. And I'm not the only one it seems. I don't want to get rid of DA, but he has to be properly backed in the next 2 windows. If he's reduced to available and cheap options then Rupp can get fucked for not backing him and Adams has to call him out on it, and not do a Greg Abbott. See this is what I keep banging on about. Proper fans can’t be arsed anymore and that’s a really bad sign. Sparks did a good job in the summer creating a feeling of optimism, good ST sales despite the price increase, all the commercial stuff and so on. His mistake was saying promotion or failure and then not funding the team properly. Adams’ style of football only wins fans over if you’re winning and if we don’t get promoted, then he’s a hard job pulling off the same sales job as in the summer. Fewer fans, lower budget, less chance of promotion and so on. For the sake of a few quid on Cole Stockton or another striker, we’d be in the hunt. Rupp blew it and he can suffer the consequences. Managers, players, CEOs all change and we’re still shit. There’s something rotten at that football club and there has been one constant in the decline.
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Post by Dick on Nov 21, 2021 8:17:58 GMT
I got a ST but missed 3 games so far due to other things - all things the wife has booked us onto. Today it was the van Gogh thing in Manchester (yeah, look at us trying to be cultured) - in the past I would have said she could do it once and then all other home games are my days, but now I'm thinking fuck it, I'd rather do something I'll actually enjoy. Wife has interest in football but even she's taking the piss out of our results. It's been a downward trajectory for 4.5 years now and I'm bored of it. And I'm not the only one it seems. I don't want to get rid of DA, but he has to be properly backed in the next 2 windows. If he's reduced to available and cheap options then Rupp can get fucked for not backing him and Adams has to call him out on it, and not do a Greg Abbott. van gogh? That's not for onion picklers We're not all savages on TCA despite what some may think.
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Post by Dick on Nov 21, 2021 8:51:48 GMT
I got a ST but missed 3 games so far due to other things - all things the wife has booked us onto. Today it was the van Gogh thing in Manchester (yeah, look at us trying to be cultured) - in the past I would have said she could do it once and then all other home games are my days, but now I'm thinking fuck it, I'd rather do something I'll actually enjoy. Wife has interest in football but even she's taking the piss out of our results. It's been a downward trajectory for 4.5 years now and I'm bored of it. And I'm not the only one it seems. I don't want to get rid of DA, but he has to be properly backed in the next 2 windows. If he's reduced to available and cheap options then Rupp can get fucked for not backing him and Adams has to call him out on it, and not do a Greg Abbott. See this is what I keep banging on about. Proper fans can’t be arsed anymore and that’s a really bad sign. Sparks did a good job in the summer creating a feeling of optimism, good ST sales despite the price increase, all the commercial stuff and so on. His mistake was saying promotion or failure and then not funding the team properly. Adams’ style of football only wins fans over if you’re winning and if we don’t get promoted, then he’s a hard job pulling off the same sales job as in the summer. Fewer fans, lower budget, less chance of promotion and so on. For the sake of a few quid on Cole Stockton or another striker, we’d be in the hunt. Rupp blew it and he can suffer the consequences. Managers, players, CEOs all change and we’re still shit. There’s something rotten at that football club and there has been one constant in the decline. I get in football you pays your money and takes your chances, but I feel we've been mugged off and have been for years, and that's the draining thing. At the moment we're in the familiar territory of having changed everything and seeing its not good enough on the pitch again and the liklihood of finding a setup/approach that can bring just some good form (I won't say success) looks less and less each week. The lack of interest from the owner filters through the whole club and ends up with things like Sparks, he's trying but he look like he's spinning plates, amongst other things desperately trying to secure any sponsorship he can and our recruitment policy being McCalls contact book last year and cheap & available this year. I notice more people now are opnely saying January will be a big window for Rupp more than anyone else - I know you can't get rid of an owner in the way you can a player or manager, but another poor / cheap window and more fans are going to consider not coming back nest year. If the owner obviously isn't interested, the fans won't be. Throwing money at it isn't everything, but we're just another asset in his portfolio, probably next to some company that makes eco-friendly hair gel and another that makes those poo emoji cushions.
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Post by mikehunt on Nov 21, 2021 9:32:00 GMT
See this is what I keep banging on about. Proper fans can’t be arsed anymore and that’s a really bad sign. Sparks did a good job in the summer creating a feeling of optimism, good ST sales despite the price increase, all the commercial stuff and so on. His mistake was saying promotion or failure and then not funding the team properly. Adams’ style of football only wins fans over if you’re winning and if we don’t get promoted, then he’s a hard job pulling off the same sales job as in the summer. Fewer fans, lower budget, less chance of promotion and so on. For the sake of a few quid on Cole Stockton or another striker, we’d be in the hunt. Rupp blew it and he can suffer the consequences. Managers, players, CEOs all change and we’re still shit. There’s something rotten at that football club and there has been one constant in the decline. I get in football you pays your money and takes your chances, but I feel we've been mugged off and have been for years, and that's the draining thing. At the moment we're in the familiar territory of having changed everything and seeing its not good enough on the pitch again and the liklihood of finding a setup/approach that can bring just some good form (I won't say success) looks less and less each week. The lack of interest from the owner filters through the whole club and ends up with things like Sparks, he's trying but he look like he's spinning plates, amongst other things desperately trying to secure any sponsorship he can and our recruitment policy being McCalls contact book last year and cheap & available this year. I notice more people now are opnely saying January will be a big window for Rupp more than anyone else - I know you can't get rid of an owner in the way you can a player or manager, but another poor / cheap window and more fans are going to consider not coming back nest year. If the owner obviously isn't interested, the fans won't be. Throwing money at it isn't everything, but we're just another asset in his portfolio, probably next to some company that makes eco-friendly hair gel and another that makes those poo emoji cushions. Feeling mugged off is a good expression. I said it on the other channel, I think Rupp is interested, but in a very different way to us. We’re fully invested in City, all in, we all lose interest from time to time but we always come back, we can’t pick another club. Rupp’s interest is in not losing any more money and getting out for as much as possible. That’s it. I think what he fails to understand is the patience of the fans isn’t limitless and a failure to back the club for a relatively minor amount could cost him a lot more in the long run. Sparks + Adams + some modest backing will get promotion. I am certain of that.
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Post by Dick on Nov 21, 2021 10:37:53 GMT
I get in football you pays your money and takes your chances, but I feel we've been mugged off and have been for years, and that's the draining thing. At the moment we're in the familiar territory of having changed everything and seeing its not good enough on the pitch again and the liklihood of finding a setup/approach that can bring just some good form (I won't say success) looks less and less each week. The lack of interest from the owner filters through the whole club and ends up with things like Sparks, he's trying but he look like he's spinning plates, amongst other things desperately trying to secure any sponsorship he can and our recruitment policy being McCalls contact book last year and cheap & available this year. I notice more people now are opnely saying January will be a big window for Rupp more than anyone else - I know you can't get rid of an owner in the way you can a player or manager, but another poor / cheap window and more fans are going to consider not coming back nest year. If the owner obviously isn't interested, the fans won't be. Throwing money at it isn't everything, but we're just another asset in his portfolio, probably next to some company that makes eco-friendly hair gel and another that makes those poo emoji cushions. Feeling mugged off is a good expression. I said it on the other channel, I think Rupp is interested, but in a very different way to us. We’re fully invested in City, all in, we all lose interest from time to time but we always come back, we can’t pick another club. Rupp’s interest is in not losing any more money and getting out for as much as possible. That’s it. I think what he fails to understand is the patience of the fans isn’t limitless and a failure to back the club for a relatively minor amount could cost him a lot more in the long run. Sparks + Adams + some modest backing will get promotion. I am certain of that. Rupp needs to demonstrate more visibility, even if his actions continue as they are. I'm not daft, peole would criticise him if he was visible, but his total anonymity makes it 100 times worse. January onwards will be very hostile for Rupp (and probably Sparks) if we pull out the usual excuses and bad movements if the results don't improve I get he's in Germany and he was always going to be a more silent partner but people are looking at him to commit in the next few windows. He needs a proper representative at least - not just Sparks who seems to be doing abot 12 jobs - but someome else who can act as a mdirect mouthpiece for Rupp (obviously not a Rahic). The fact the fans voted to pay more is a big factor the upper management seem ignorant of - how many customer bases would do that, especially for sport/entertainment activities? Its a big thing to get fans to do that, especially after 4-5 years of decline. Sparks is doing a pretty good job at that side of things in fairness - but he's a trying to market a bad product and people won't commit forever. It's like often when your favourite pub or restaurant gets new owners - they change things, do it cheaper and the quality goes downhill and your favourite dishes just taste like shit. Eventually you give them enough chances but think fuck it, I'll go somewhere else next time. Our fans will show loyalty, faith and put their money where their mouths are... to a point.
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Post by tetchyarse on Nov 21, 2021 18:08:18 GMT
The only thing Rupp is interested in is squeezing as much money out of the club as possible. ST prices go up, people still gladly pay, but the players are a step down from what we had last year. And SparksY is still desperately trying to sponsor everything and anything just to drum up some cash.
So where's the money going? We all know the answer to that. And the fact Rupp won't publish accounts shows just what he's all about.
With our ST prices and our crowds, we should have budget at the top of this league. And we clearly don't, which is why we've been bin-dipping rather than spashing proper cash.
At least under Lawn and Rhodes we were potless but spent every penny we had on the squad, even if we probably should have spent more on the infrastructure. Now we just have a parasite sucking every last penny out of the club.
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Post by mikehunt on Nov 21, 2021 22:02:01 GMT
The only thing Rupp is interested in is squeezing as much money out of the club as possible. ST prices go up, people still gladly pay, but the players are a step down from what we had last year. And SparksY is still desperately trying to sponsor everything and anything just to drum up some cash. So where's the money going? We all know the answer to that. And the fact Rupp won't publish accounts shows just what he's all about. With our ST prices and our crowds, we should have budget at the top of this league. And we clearly don't, which is why we've been bin-dipping rather than spashing proper cash. At least under Lawn and Rhodes we were potless but spent every penny we had on the squad, even if we probably should have spent more on the infrastructure. Now we just have a parasite sucking every last penny out of the club. According to Dennis on the other channel, the German parent company allegedly has a €300k a year income. Your guess where that comes from.
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Post by tetchyarse on Nov 22, 2021 8:38:08 GMT
The only thing Rupp is interested in is squeezing as much money out of the club as possible. ST prices go up, people still gladly pay, but the players are a step down from what we had last year. And SparksY is still desperately trying to sponsor everything and anything just to drum up some cash. So where's the money going? We all know the answer to that. And the fact Rupp won't publish accounts shows just what he's all about. With our ST prices and our crowds, we should have budget at the top of this league. And we clearly don't, which is why we've been bin-dipping rather than spashing proper cash. At least under Lawn and Rhodes we were potless but spent every penny we had on the squad, even if we probably should have spent more on the infrastructure. Now we just have a parasite sucking every last penny out of the club. According to Dennis on the other channel, the German parent company allegedly has a €300k a year income. Your guess where that comes from. And that's income. I'd bet my house last year's "investment" was in the form of loans which are now being repaid, so there goes even more money.
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Post by Hoochy on Nov 22, 2021 13:01:34 GMT
van gogh? That's not for onion picklers Or opinion picklers….. 🖕🖕
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Post by fish on Nov 24, 2021 17:46:12 GMT
Imagine you're a player like Stockton and Sparks talks to you like this, you'd laugh him out the door.
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Post by Dick on Nov 24, 2021 21:39:48 GMT
Imagine you're a player like Stockton and Sparks talks to you like this, you'd laugh him out the door. 'Part of the project at Bradford' I actually laughed at that. As if we have a fucking 'project'... unless that project is 'Title - Cheap and Available. The end.'
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