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Post by Neshead on Mar 21, 2021 15:52:35 GMT
I don't think we need a rebuild, we've seen over the last few weeks that we have a first team that can beat anyone in this league. What we don't have is any cover for those first team players when they get tired or lose a bit of form. Bsck five I'd keep, we're solid at the back. AOC might need to take a pay cut, especially if the wage cap rears up again, but he's done well and also gives us cover if Canavan or POC get injured/tired. Depends if we can sign Hosannah from Leeds, it shouldn't be too hard as he's never going to make it as a PL first teamer. We need a holding midfielder to keep Watt and Sutton honest- both of them need the kick up the arse that competition for places will bring- and we need a centre forward as I don't fancy us going into next season with just Rowe and Novak. Evans is under contract and is versatile as a squad player, Crankshaw and Vernam have both shown flashes, we do need another wide player. So one DCM, one winger and one CF- but all proper quality- and I reckon we'd be away. Just imagine if we'd kept Vaughan with this team, we'd have been laughing. Where are the goals and assists coming from?
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 21, 2021 15:53:22 GMT
I don't think we need a rebuild, we've seen over the last few weeks that we have a first team that can beat anyone in this league. What we don't have is any cover for those first team players when they get tired or lose a bit of form. Bsck five I'd keep, we're solid at the back. AOC might need to take a pay cut, especially if the wage cap rears up again, but he's done well and also gives us cover if Canavan or POC get injured/tired. Depends if we can sign Hosannah from Leeds, it shouldn't be too hard as he's never going to make it as a PL first teamer. We need a holding midfielder to keep Watt and Sutton honest- both of them need the kick up the arse that competition for places will bring- and we need a centre forward as I don't fancy us going into next season with just Rowe and Novak. Evans is under contract and is versatile as a squad player, Crankshaw and Vernam have both shown flashes, we do need another wide player. So one DCM, one winger and one CF- but all proper quality- and I reckon we'd be away. Just imagine if we'd kept Vaughan with this team, we'd have been laughing. Signing just 3 players isn't going to give us a promotion winning team. Wood is going as is Donaldson Pritchard and Novak. There's a good chance AOC and Hornby will leave, Clarke shouldn't be near a contract so that's 7 players we need to replace as well as needing 1 or 2 proper cdm's
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 21, 2021 16:34:53 GMT
Depending on money available and the ambition of the club these are some of the players I'd love for us to have next season after all out of contract players and loans have been sent back.
Bahamboula, Rw McAleny , Lw Max Melbourne, LB ( at Lincoln on loan at Walsall) Josh Sheehan amc Emyr Huws cdm Jon Nolan cdm
After that I'm struggling to see who is good enough we could attract. Realistically 4 out of that 6 would probably be able to get a league 1 club. A good striker next season will be hard to get hard of. I'd also be tempted to get Hossannah back again.
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 21, 2021 17:03:37 GMT
I don't think we need a rebuild, we've seen over the last few weeks that we have a first team that can beat anyone in this league. What we don't have is any cover for those first team players when they get tired or lose a bit of form. Bsck five I'd keep, we're solid at the back. AOC might need to take a pay cut, especially if the wage cap rears up again, but he's done well and also gives us cover if Canavan or POC get injured/tired. Depends if we can sign Hosannah from Leeds, it shouldn't be too hard as he's never going to make it as a PL first teamer. We need a holding midfielder to keep Watt and Sutton honest- both of them need the kick up the arse that competition for places will bring- and we need a centre forward as I don't fancy us going into next season with just Rowe and Novak. Evans is under contract and is versatile as a squad player, Crankshaw and Vernam have both shown flashes, we do need another wide player. So one DCM, one winger and one CF- but all proper quality- and I reckon we'd be away. Just imagine if we'd kept Vaughan with this team, we'd have been laughing. Signing just 3 players isn't going to give us a promotion winning team. Wood is going as is Donaldson Pritchard and Novak. There's a good chance AOC and Hornby will leave, Clarke shouldn't be near a contract so that's 7 players we need to replace as well as needing 1 or 2 proper cdm's If Wood and AOC both leave then they'll also need replacing, yep. Clarke, Donaldo, Hornby and Pritchard are all just squad fillers who won't be missed, Novak would be missed as a squad player but I'd say this latest injury has probably finished him.
For me the core of the team is right up there alongside the best in this league, we need an upgrade on Watt/Sutton and we really do need a CF- ironic as we gave the two best strikers in this league, Vaughan and Doyle, away for nowt. I'd go back in for Bahamboula, and if we're splashing the cash I wonder if we'd have a chance on someone like Hemmings at Burton.
See what we can get in the loan market for the squad fillers?
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Post by Lofty on Mar 21, 2021 17:19:11 GMT
We need to be much more savvy in the loan market.
We're wasting time with the likes of Samuels, Huffer, Burrell and Stevens. Absolutely pointless.
The only loan signings we should be making are those that walk into the first team - think Etherington, Reach, Davies, Evans, Cullen. Loaning players who are just good enough to warm the bench or not good enough that they can't even make the squad is just embarrassing.
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Post by Neshead on Mar 21, 2021 20:19:01 GMT
Depending on money available and the ambition of the club these are some of the players I'd love for us to have next season after all out of contract players and loans have been sent back. Bahamboula, Rw McAleny , Lw Max Melbourne, LB ( at Lincoln on loan at Walsall) Josh Sheehan amc Emyr Huws cdm Jon Nolan cdm After that I'm struggling to see who is good enough we could attract. Realistically 4 out of that 6 would probably be able to get a league 1 club. A good striker next season will be hard to get hard of. I'd also be tempted to get Hossannah back again. Neither McAleny or Bahamboula will be playing league 2 next season. Of the others I only know Sheehan and he'd be a good signing. On our side i would expect interest in Cooke and a few teams testing the water on the availablity of Staunton. But if we don't strengthen the whole front line in the summer its going to be a long hard season next season.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 21, 2021 20:29:02 GMT
Depending on money available and the ambition of the club these are some of the players I'd love for us to have next season after all out of contract players and loans have been sent back. Bahamboula, Rw McAleny , Lw Max Melbourne, LB ( at Lincoln on loan at Walsall) Josh Sheehan amc Emyr Huws cdm Jon Nolan cdm After that I'm struggling to see who is good enough we could attract. Realistically 4 out of that 6 would probably be able to get a league 1 club. A good striker next season will be hard to get hard of. I'd also be tempted to get Hossannah back again. Neither McAleny or Bahamboula will be playing league 2 next season. Of the others I only know Sheehan and he'd be a good signing. On our side i would expect interest in Cooke and a few teams testing the water on the availablity of Staunton. But if we don't strengthen the whole front line in the summer its going to be a long hard season next season. Yeah I'm not expecting either of them and I believe Oldham took their option on bahamboula so I'm guessing the want money we can't afford anyway. I'm not expecting any interest in any of ours, if Cooke and Staunton pick up from where they left off before their injuries then I can see us cashing in during January but I'd like to think in July we'd offer at least Cooke an extension. I'm sure I heard if Cambridge stayed down Mullin is coming to us on a free and Jamie Hanson is coming from Oxford
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Post by Mossley Bantam on Mar 21, 2021 22:37:23 GMT
Wigan are coming down, should we break the bank for Lee Evans? Lee Evans would kill opposition teams at this level. Sign Lee Evans and we go up. Him and Cullen in 15/16 were easily the best CM partnership we've had since McCall/Whalley. We should've broken the bank to sign Evans when we had him on loan. Young, re-sale value and a much more realistic signing than Cullen was at the time. Precisely the type of player we shoud've been building around. Having said that, he ain't signing for a middling L2 club like us.
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Post by hobbes on Mar 22, 2021 16:23:24 GMT
Worst part of this thread is finding out Evans has another year on his contract. What a shit signing that is, he's not good enough to be a regular starter and when he does get picked it takes him 3 or 4 games to get up to speed. I know I slag him off on Twitter all the time but he is garbage and won't get any better.
I'm not fussed if Wood goes, he's bang average these days. AOC another - keep if he's not on too much whack and whilst i've come to actually like the curmudgeonly bastard it would be no great loss if he left.
Will be glad to see the back of Clarke and Pritchard. I like Matt Jay at Exeter, he'd be a massive upgrade on those two. Probably league 1 bound though after the season he's had irrespective of whether Exeter go up.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 22, 2021 16:31:43 GMT
One thing is for sure looking at people's thoughts on different players they'd like to sign is that it's time for the hierarchy to get their balls out.
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Post by goddeano on Mar 27, 2021 17:04:44 GMT
Exciting to be heading into a summer window where we don't need to rip the squad to bits. Defence basically picks itself, we've got some decent forwards now, just finish off the midfield, get shut off Clarke and get some backup for injuries
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 27, 2021 17:15:19 GMT
Exciting to be heading into a summer window where we don't need to rip the squad to bits. Defence basically picks itself, we've got some decent forwards now, just finish off the midfield, get shut off Clarke and get some backup for injuries Both full backs are out of contract and Wood isn't staying. Cook isn't our player, Donaldson is retiring, Evans is shit Rowe is looking worse every game we need minimum 2 midfielders. There's loads to do because January wasn't as good as what everyone thinks.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 27, 2021 17:43:55 GMT
We need a lot.
Keeper, 2 full backs, CDM, winger, Striker.
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Post by mikehunt on Mar 27, 2021 21:25:17 GMT
Exciting to be heading into a summer window where we don't need to rip the squad to bits. Defence basically picks itself, we've got some decent forwards now, just finish off the midfield, get shut off Clarke and get some backup for injuries Both full backs are out of contract and Wood isn't staying. Cook isn't our player, Donaldson is retiring, Evans is shit Rowe is looking worse every game we need minimum 2 midfielders. There's loads to do because January wasn't as good as what everyone thinks. At the end of the season we will have no full backs, one keeper and one striker. We need some back up for Watt and Sutton and Cooke, two or three strikers, and some full backs. So at least eight players to come in or resign.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 27, 2021 21:36:13 GMT
Both full backs are out of contract and Wood isn't staying. Cook isn't our player, Donaldson is retiring, Evans is shit Rowe is looking worse every game we need minimum 2 midfielders. There's loads to do because January wasn't as good as what everyone thinks. At the end of the season we will have no full backs, one keeper and one striker. We need some back up for Watt and Sutton and Cooke, two or three strikers, and some full backs. So at least eight players to come in or resign. We dont need back up for Watt and Sutton we need someone who can play instead of one of them, plus 1 other for squad depth. We've got Vernam Crankshaw Cooke Evans and an inexperienced kid in scales who really should be loaned out at least till January. There's only Cooke there who deserves a starting berth so we need at least.... 1gk, 2 full backs, 1 cb, 2 cm, 1 #10, 2 wingers 2 strikers... That's 11 we need at least and half of them need to be better than we have. Canavan apart most of the January signings we made should be struggling to get on the bench with a decent recruitment this summer.
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Post by edin on Mar 28, 2021 7:09:21 GMT
Exciting to be heading into a summer window where we don't need to rip the squad to bits. Defence basically picks itself, we've got some decent forwards now, just finish off the midfield, get shut off Clarke and get some backup for injuries Both full backs are out of contract and Wood isn't staying. Cook isn't our player, Donaldson is retiring, Evans is shit Rowe is looking worse every game we need minimum 2 midfielders. There's loads to do because January wasn't as good as what everyone thinks. if Wood has got a contract elsewhere and the club knows that then play Foulds, Wood has been shit anyway so I don't don't think he merits a starting birth.
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 28, 2021 9:50:45 GMT
January was a great sign of intent, which is why I'm happy to keep the same coaching and recruitment staff for this window. We got rid of the shit in an efficient and brutal way- there's your wages, off you fuck. And every permanent player they signed was a clear improvement on what we had before, with a clear idea of where they fit into the side. It was impressive, especially as the top players in this division would not switch a top of the league side for a side that was 23rd with rookie managers.
More work to do, though. A replacement for Wood, AOC too if we don't re-sign him (I think we should, but also wouldn't be gutted if we don't). A third DM, ideally an upgrade on Sutton, who's the weaker of the two. And definitely a striker. If Hornby goes then get an upgrade on ROD (Doyle? I always rated him, despite his gobshite wife.).
January was an impressive start, but it's how we kick on. At least we're not in a position where we'd put the whole squad in the skip.
We need to use the loan market better. Other than Cook, and possibly Hosannah, what was the fucking point of any of our loan signings?
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Mar 28, 2021 11:43:13 GMT
January was a great sign of intent, which is why I'm happy to keep the same coaching and recruitment staff for this window. We got rid of the shit in an efficient and brutal way- there's your wages, off you fuck. And every permanent player they signed was a clear improvement on what we had before, with a clear idea of where they fit into the side. It was impressive, especially as the top players in this division would not switch a top of the league side for a side that was 23rd with rookie managers. More work to do, though. A replacement for Wood, AOC too if we don't re-sign him (I think we should, but also wouldn't be gutted if we don't). A third DM, ideally an upgrade on Sutton, who's the weaker of the two. And definitely a striker. If Hornby goes then get an upgrade on ROD (Doyle? I always rated him, despite his gobshite wife.). January was an impressive start, but it's how we kick on. At least we're not in a position where we'd put the whole squad in the skip. We need to use the loan market better. Other than Cook, and possibly Hosannah, what was the fucking point of any of our loan signings? Fucking hell Tetch, Sutton the weaker of the 2? Doyle? You like Clarke... we're going to fall out.
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Post by edin on Mar 28, 2021 13:30:48 GMT
January was a great sign of intent, which is why I'm happy to keep the same coaching and recruitment staff for this window. We got rid of the shit in an efficient and brutal way- there's your wages, off you fuck. And every permanent player they signed was a clear improvement on what we had before, with a clear idea of where they fit into the side. It was impressive, especially as the top players in this division would not switch a top of the league side for a side that was 23rd with rookie managers. More work to do, though. A replacement for Wood, AOC too if we don't re-sign him (I think we should, but also wouldn't be gutted if we don't). A third DM, ideally an upgrade on Sutton, who's the weaker of the two. And definitely a striker. If Hornby goes then get an upgrade on ROD (Doyle? I always rated him, despite his gobshite wife.). January was an impressive start, but it's how we kick on. At least we're not in a position where we'd put the whole squad in the skip. We need to use the loan market better. Other than Cook, and possibly Hosannah, what was the fucking point of any of our loan signings? Fucking hell Tetch, Sutton the weaker of the 2? Doyle? You like Clarke... we're going to fall out. Tetchy has gone into Gomper mode
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Post by Neshead on Mar 28, 2021 13:47:34 GMT
At the end of the season we will have no full backs, one keeper and one striker. We need some back up for Watt and Sutton and Cooke, two or three strikers, and some full backs. So at least eight players to come in or resign. We dont need back up for Watt and Sutton we need someone who can play instead of one of them, plus 1 other for squad depth. We've got Vernam Crankshaw Cooke Evans and an inexperienced kid in scales who really should be loaned out at least till January. There's only Cooke there who deserves a starting berth so we need at least.... 1gk, 2 full backs, 1 cb, 2 cm, 1 #10, 2 wingers 2 strikers... That's 11 we need at least and half of them need to be better than we have. Canavan apart most of the January signings we made should be struggling to get on the bench with a decent recruitment this summer. We still need that midfield general that runs the game from the centre of the park. Next season is going to interesting as to how we line up and who is in that line up. As it stands the only part of the spine of the team i could seriously go with is Canavan, POC and Callum Cooke. With Cooke at 10 how do we build the rest of the team around that? Can we really fit Rowe upfront with another striker with Cooke behind them? Possibly if we get that class midfielder we badly need.
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