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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Jan 8, 2019 8:23:39 GMT
Where has this complete fallacy come from? Since when was it ok just to put in effort and do the bear minimum.
I don't want a football club where the mentality is "Well if they give 100% that's all we can ask for" Why should it be all we can ask for? Why shouldn't we expect to compete, to buy the best players we can, and to win games!
If I turned up to work with the attitude of "I'm just going to try my hardest but that's all I'm doing". My career would be non existent I wouldn't progress and I would probably end up being managed out.
It's a joke, the mentality of our fans has to change from 'that's all we can expect because that's all we've ever had' to wanting to achieve more. How can we do this?
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Post by Neshead on Jan 8, 2019 8:30:52 GMT
Where has this complete fallacy come from? Since when was it ok just to put in effort and do the bear minimum.
I don't want a football club where the mentality is "Well if they give 100% that's all we can ask for" Why should it be all we can ask for? Why shouldn't we expect to compete, to buy the best players we can, and to win games!
If I turned up to work with the attitude of "I'm just going to try my hardest but that's all I'm doing". My career would be non existent I wouldn't progress and I would probably end up being managed out.
It's a joke, the mentality of our fans has to change from 'that's all we can expect because that's all we've ever had' to wanting to achieve more. How can we do this?
#bantamsfamily
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Post by Dick on Jan 8, 2019 8:52:01 GMT
Its probably the way a lot of our fans live their lives. Which is why they're probably stuck in minimum wage jobs or will never amount to much in life.
The same sort who receive any type of ambition as reckless, bark back to the summer of 2001 and come out with shit like 'well I don't want us to sign Keifer Moore because he could break his leg in his first and that would be money wasted' (yes that was a genuine comment).
Having such a rapid decline and long term of bottoming out means many of our fan base are desensitized, just content to turn up on Saturdays and be happy with the shit they've chosen to feed on.
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Post by Hobhead on Jan 8, 2019 9:23:15 GMT
I think it’s part of the wider, ‘just get behind the lads ffs’ mentality. These types of shallow thinking fans believe that it’s a fan’s job to support everything about the club but they mistakenly conflate the players with the club. Cheering the players despite them being shit is what they believe a true fan would do so they make sure they themselves are seen to be doing just that but, far from helping, theirs is a millstone mentality.
I mean, cheering Josh Wright to the rafters might be nice for Josh Wright but it’d be to the detriment of the club. Hounding shit like that out of the door, however, would help in some small way to progress the club.
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 8, 2019 9:49:49 GMT
Pound for pound, we're the least ambitious club in the country.
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Jan 8, 2019 10:01:26 GMT
Pound for pound, we're the least ambitious club in the country. Got to agree.. You watch when season tickets eventually go back to a normal level (Say £250/£270) all these "I'm a massive city fan" will soon be back on their sofas watching/paying £90 a month for sky claiming football is unaffordable.
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Post by Bacon on Jan 8, 2019 10:06:01 GMT
Pound for pound, we're the least ambitious club in the country. Got to agree.. You watch when season tickets eventually go back to a normal level (Say £250/£270) all these "I'm a massive city fan" will soon be back on their sofas watching/paying £90 a month for sky claiming football is unaffordable. Next season you mean?
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Jan 8, 2019 10:14:47 GMT
Got to agree.. You watch when season tickets eventually go back to a normal level (Say £250/£270) all these "I'm a massive city fan" will soon be back on their sofas watching/paying £90 a month for sky claiming football is unaffordable. Next season you mean? Hopefully we do it in small increments so that not too many get scared... We've had it "nice and cheap" for too long, too many have got it in their heads that success in football can be achieved this way.. yes it's fine doing it to get out of league 2 and staying in league 1.. for that next jump we need 16000 fans paying a proper price!
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Post by Nice boy on Jan 8, 2019 10:19:01 GMT
I've added in a poll for you PB
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Post by bantam147 on Jan 8, 2019 10:21:18 GMT
People will pay for quality. Hypothetically, if Rupp ponied up to sign Payne, LOB, Ball and Miller, and used the dross-culling to fund 2-3 more quality players, and we continue to serve up the quality of performance we've produced for the last month, people will pay more.
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Jan 8, 2019 10:37:43 GMT
People will pay for quality. Hypothetically, if Rupp ponied up to sign Payne, LOB, Ball and Miller, and used the dross-culling to fund 2-3 more quality players, and we continue to serve up the quality of performance we've produced for the last month, people will pay more. With our fan base I don't think they will though.. fans were kicking off when we were in a FA Cup qtr final about having to pay more. It's ingrained within the culture and city of Bradford that if it's not cheap I ain't buying it.. The fact people in 16/17 were asking for fans to live stream a game on facebook so they don't have to pay £20 for a ticket.. This was some of the best football we had played for a long time yet they didn't think it was worth £20 or £149 for a season ticket tells you everything.
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Post by Lofty on Jan 8, 2019 11:04:54 GMT
Imagine the shock that a fucking shit amateur took pride in playing for a professional club. Let's have XI Kai Bruenker's and see how far down the leagues we go.
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Post by tetchyarse on Jan 8, 2019 11:28:16 GMT
I can't hate players who aren't good enough but who give their all. I'd rather have Panzer than some bone idle cunt like Towie, shit but tries hard beats shit and a lazy fucker.
But trying hard is the minimum. Give me a starting shirt and I'd try hard, but I'm 36 and 16 stone so I'd be utter gash.
I'm happy to see the back of anyone who's not good enough, but reserve hate for the lazy fuckers.
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Post by slymutha on Jan 8, 2019 12:53:27 GMT
Like to see these Gompers change their tune when they need an Operation and they find out the hospital didn't want to pay for a proper surgen but that they got a lad called Keith who usually cleans the toilets but is a proper workhorse so their keen to let him have a go.
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Post by Hoochy on Jan 8, 2019 13:25:33 GMT
Like to see these Gompers change their tune when they need an Operation and they find out the hospital didn't want to pay for a proper surgen but that they got a lad called Keith who usually cleans the toilets but is a proper workhorse so their keen to let him have a go. Keith probably looks like the back end of a bus though. Panzer had other attributes.
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Post by Hobhead on Jan 8, 2019 13:59:02 GMT
Like to see these Gompers change their tune when they need an Operation and they find out the hospital didn't want to pay for a proper surgen but that they got a lad called Keith who usually cleans the toilets but is a proper workhorse so their keen to let him have a go. Keith probably looks like the back end of a bus though. Panzer had other attributes. I just don’t know what you saw in him. To me he loooked like someone had put Patrick Swayze in a vice.
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Post by Neshead on Jan 8, 2019 14:03:21 GMT
Lofty getting owned there. Imagine a man of your advanced years using the word ‘owned’. What you doing this weekend, chillaxing? U not wiv me blud?
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Post by Hoochy on Jan 8, 2019 14:12:07 GMT
Keith probably looks like the back end of a bus though. Panzer had other attributes. I just don’t know what you saw in him. To me he loooked like someone had put Patrick Swayze in a vice. Pound shop Patrick. I know my level.
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Post by Hoochy on Jan 8, 2019 20:07:07 GMT
He's made you look a cunt there. You're going to have to batter him to get out of this with your reputation intact. I typed a response but what's the fucking point. European Ben liked his post so he must be right. Chicken.
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jan 8, 2019 20:36:12 GMT
I typed a response but what's the fucking point. European Ben liked his post so he must be right. Chicken. He's fuck all. Got nothing. Letting people take the piss out of him like that.
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