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Post by hobbes on Oct 24, 2023 21:01:04 GMT
The backlash is in full flow on Twitter with calls for a “proper manager”. Our fans have the attention span of a fucking gnat.
Tonight was terrible, pressed too high, and MK exposed Taylor and Stubbs at will. Circumstances contrived to make it a tough night, some of the signings showed how badly we recruited both in individual ability and in spread of positions/strengths. If KM is gonna be a manager he’ll make mistakes on the way, and given he had to play tonight with Smallwood suspended (never thought I’d type that), he wasn’t able to affect things from the dugout, and given he’s only got Derbyshire, Todd and Trueman helping him I’m not surprised we never got a hold of the game.
If we can appoint someone on merit then fine, but to use tonight as a reason not to persist with KM is moronic. Yes he should’ve brought Platt back, yes he should’ve rested Cook or hooked him earlier, yes he should’ve left Oyegoke at the motorway services and hoped he never found his way home, but the meltdown tonight is just daft.,
We’re in an interim situation, so unlike with Hughes there is no long term backdrop to inform what we’ve just watched. It wasn’t the same failings we had under Hughes, ergo it’s not “typical City”, and it needs to be evaluated as such/forgotten about immediately.
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Post by hobbes on Oct 24, 2023 21:02:32 GMT
Self imposed 15 second ban for using ergo btw.
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Post by hobbes on Oct 24, 2023 21:40:47 GMT
For the record I’m not ‘McDonald In’ necessarily, just commenting on the short term nature of the average football fans ability to construct a cogent thought.
Yes, yes, 15 second ban for using cogent. Ffs.
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Post by hobbes on Oct 25, 2023 10:55:03 GMT
Mark Douglas tweeted last night that he spoke to Williamson before he joined MK and asked if City had approached him. The answer was no, obviously.
If even I'd heard of him he must have a good reputation in the game, but then we have a public schoolboy speedway fan in charge of the club. Fucking clueless.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Oct 25, 2023 11:08:42 GMT
Mark Douglas tweeted last night that he spoke to Williamson before he joined MK and asked if City had approached him. The answer was no, obviously. If even I'd heard of him he must have a good reputation in the game, but then we have a public schoolboy speedway fan in charge of the club. Fucking clueless. Soundbyte is staying very very very quiet since the play off debacle. While I'm glad he has there are times when he needs to talk about the club and one of those times is right now.
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Post by Dick on Oct 25, 2023 11:18:15 GMT
More names flying about - Dean Holden - managerial career has been to last 11 months as Oldham manager, 7 months at Bristol City and 8 months at Charlton. No thanks.
Stephen Clemence - pure coaching / assistant background, followed Steve Bruce around a lot. Sunderland, Newcastle, Villa, WBA, Wednesday, Man City
Personally now, I wouldn't disregard someone with more of a coaching background looking for a management job, as long they're not too young or raw. I'm fed up of seeing the same pool of names that seem to be linked to every vacancy, mostly dinosaurs or someone still dining off a promotion from years ago.
I just don't want Sparks to make the decision.
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Post by tetchyarse on Oct 25, 2023 11:47:56 GMT
If Sparks is making the decision we’re fucked. He’ll choose another Dinosaur of a manager, petty too purely because those are the people he’s heard of.
I knew about Williamson as a mate is a Gateshead fan and has raved about him for two years, but Williamson isn’t the only decent young manager in the National League who’s got their fans excited.
If we’re trying to combine “Sparks might have heard of him” with “done a decent job in non-league”, how about Kevin Phillips?
Yes, we all know it’ll be just another busted flush though. And I’m including the Cowleys in that category.
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Post by Dick on Oct 25, 2023 15:44:33 GMT
Thinking now it's been 3 weeks and 5 games... McDonald aside there's been nothing from the club since Leslie's sacking was announced I think?
The nature of yesterday's defeat and the standard of some of the names going around and you see why some fans are getting cranky with hearing nothing.
Club need to announce something, even if they're keeping things as they are for now and the search is ongoing, before this Saturday I'd think. Certainly before next this time next week, it'll be 4 weeks since they fired Les and it's just cranking up the pressure on Sparks and Co.
There's been some murmurs of a club sale on the other board which would impact a management change, but I doubt anythings happening in that regard.
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Post by Hoochy on Oct 25, 2023 15:53:30 GMT
More names flying about - Dean Holden - managerial career has been to last 11 months as Oldham manager, 7 months at Bristol City and 8 months at Charlton. No thanks. Stephen Clemence - pure coaching / assistant background, followed Steve Bruce around a lot. Sunderland, Newcastle, Villa, WBA, Wednesday, Man City Personally now, I wouldn't disregard someone with more of a coaching background looking for a management job, as long they're not too young or raw. I'm fed up of seeing the same pool of names that seem to be linked to every vacancy, mostly dinosaurs or someone still dining off a promotion from years ago. I just don't want Sparks to make the decision. Clemence is an unknown but I'd be cautious. If he's followed Bruce around those jobs mentioned then I would expect him to be similar in style which is Hugh3sesque. Safety first and tactics from last century. Ferguson must have been a genius at motivating rather than tactics because all of his ex players are very average or poor managers. Have any of his ex players gone on to be trophy/promotion winning managers?
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Post by hobbes on Oct 25, 2023 20:40:14 GMT
More names flying about - Dean Holden - managerial career has been to last 11 months as Oldham manager, 7 months at Bristol City and 8 months at Charlton. No thanks. Stephen Clemence - pure coaching / assistant background, followed Steve Bruce around a lot. Sunderland, Newcastle, Villa, WBA, Wednesday, Man City Personally now, I wouldn't disregard someone with more of a coaching background looking for a management job, as long they're not too young or raw. I'm fed up of seeing the same pool of names that seem to be linked to every vacancy, mostly dinosaurs or someone still dining off a promotion from years ago. I just don't want Sparks to make the decision. Clemence is an unknown but I'd be cautious. If he's followed Bruce around those jobs mentioned then I would expect him to be similar in style which is Hugh3sesque. Safety first and tactics from last century. Ferguson must have been a genius at motivating rather than tactics because all of his ex players are very average or poor managers. Have any of his ex players gone on to be trophy/promotion winning managers? His son Darren? Can’t think of anyone else.
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Post by Hoochy on Oct 25, 2023 20:59:01 GMT
Clemence is an unknown but I'd be cautious. If he's followed Bruce around those jobs mentioned then I would expect him to be similar in style which is Hugh3sesque. Safety first and tactics from last century. Ferguson must have been a genius at motivating rather than tactics because all of his ex players are very average or poor managers. Have any of his ex players gone on to be trophy/promotion winning managers? His son Darren? Can’t think of anyone else. Giggs, Hugh3s, Ince, both Neville's, Scholes, Bruce, Robson, Rooney. Probably missed some. There's a couple of cup finals and promotions I think for Robson and Bruce but Robson's success was when he was throwing Gibson's money around at Boro.
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Post by Dick on Oct 25, 2023 21:07:21 GMT
Did Solksjaer and Van Nistelrooy win a few things in their respective countries?
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Post by bantam147 on Oct 26, 2023 9:17:53 GMT
More names flying about - Dean Holden - managerial career has been to last 11 months as Oldham manager, 7 months at Bristol City and 8 months at Charlton. No thanks. Stephen Clemence - pure coaching / assistant background, followed Steve Bruce around a lot. Sunderland, Newcastle, Villa, WBA, Wednesday, Man City Personally now, I wouldn't disregard someone with more of a coaching background looking for a management job, as long they're not too young or raw. I'm fed up of seeing the same pool of names that seem to be linked to every vacancy, mostly dinosaurs or someone still dining off a promotion from years ago. I just don't want Sparks to make the decision. Clemence is an unknown but I'd be cautious. If he's followed Bruce around those jobs mentioned then I would expect him to be similar in style which is Hugh3sesque. Safety first and tactics from last century. Ferguson must have been a genius at motivating rather than tactics because all of his ex players are very average or poor managers. Have any of his ex players gone on to be trophy/promotion winning managers? Ferguson was a genius as a Psychologist and Leader. But tactically he was poor. His great United sides coincided with having McLaren and Quieroz as his assistant . They did the coaching and tactical work. I’m pretty sure the likes of Keane are on record as saying they didn’t focus too much on tactics, it was all about talent, mentality and attitude. As for us, I’m not sure I give a fuck. It’ll be more of the same and without a change at the top, we’ll just be hoping for a dead cat bounce and landing lucky.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Oct 26, 2023 9:59:10 GMT
Clemence is an unknown but I'd be cautious. If he's followed Bruce around those jobs mentioned then I would expect him to be similar in style which is Hugh3sesque. Safety first and tactics from last century. Ferguson must have been a genius at motivating rather than tactics because all of his ex players are very average or poor managers. Have any of his ex players gone on to be trophy/promotion winning managers? Ferguson was a genius as a Psychologist and Leader. But tactically he was poor. His great United sides coincided with having McLaren and Quieroz as his assistant . They did the coaching and tactical work. I’m pretty sure the likes of Keane are on record as saying they didn’t focus too much on tactics, it was all about talent, mentality and attitude. As for us, I’m not sure I give a fuck. It’ll be more of the same and without a change at the top, we’ll just be hoping for a dead cat bounce and landing lucky. Despite the mockery he's received as a manager McLaren is widely regarded as one of the best coaches and number 2 to work in this country. I'd have him here as assistant or Dof
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Post by Bacon on Oct 26, 2023 10:32:56 GMT
Ferguson was a genius as a Psychologist and Leader. But tactically he was poor. His great United sides coincided with having McLaren and Quieroz as his assistant . They did the coaching and tactical work. I’m pretty sure the likes of Keane are on record as saying they didn’t focus too much on tactics, it was all about talent, mentality and attitude. As for us, I’m not sure I give a fuck. It’ll be more of the same and without a change at the top, we’ll just be hoping for a dead cat bounce and landing lucky. Despite the mockery he's received as a manager McLaren is widely regarded as one of the best coaches and number 2 to work in this country. I'd have him here as assistant or Dof I'm sure he'll consider jacking it in at Old Trafford for us.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Oct 26, 2023 11:11:52 GMT
Despite the mockery he's received as a manager McLaren is widely regarded as one of the best coaches and number 2 to work in this country. I'd have him here as assistant or Dof I'm sure he'll consider jacking it in at Old Trafford for us. Is he there? I thought he was unemployed
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Post by Bacon on Oct 26, 2023 14:19:33 GMT
Joey Barton..... ?
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Post by benitocarbone on Oct 26, 2023 14:32:32 GMT
People will turn their noses up at him for a lot of reasons but at least he’s got a promotion under his belt which is more than can be said for Holden et al. Holden in particular has achieved absolutely nothing in more than one job to date.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Oct 26, 2023 15:06:32 GMT
Doesn't inspire me, he's not just a cunt but a shit cunt too
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Post by edin on Oct 26, 2023 15:11:02 GMT
If the club is actually getting sold could we be waiting until the takeover so the new bossman can announce his own manager?
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