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Post by Nice boy on Aug 24, 2019 20:01:08 GMT
I'd love it if the answer to our problems was a slight formation tweak but it isn't.
We've been shit in every single game we've played this season, including both the games we employed 4-4-2.
If Oldham and Stevenage is now being used as a template for success then the result today would have been exactly the same and will continue to be until we see more quality in the side.
The biggest problem at the moment isn't tactics, it's the players who simply haven't been good enough.
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Post by Dick on Aug 24, 2019 20:12:32 GMT
I'd love it if the answer to our problems was a slight formation tweak but it isn't. We've been shit in every single game we've played this season, including both the games we employed 4-4-2. If Oldham and Stevenage is now being used as a template for success then the result today would have been exactly the same and will continue to be until we see more quality in the side. The biggest problem at the moment isn't tactics, it's the players who simply haven't been good enough. I didn't go to oldham but looked at the stats. We had 4 shots on target so 3 went in. They had more possession and completed more passes than us. Clinical finishing? Yes, and great, but in the content of 6 league and cup games it's looking like the anomaly. We dont look like controlling anything. I think we'll be making the same complaints in 10 games time.
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Post by Nice boy on Aug 24, 2019 20:31:40 GMT
I'd love it if the answer to our problems was a slight formation tweak but it isn't. We've been shit in every single game we've played this season, including both the games we employed 4-4-2. If Oldham and Stevenage is now being used as a template for success then the result today would have been exactly the same and will continue to be until we see more quality in the side. The biggest problem at the moment isn't tactics, it's the players who simply haven't been good enough. I didn't go to oldham but looked at the stats. We had 4 shots on target so 3 went in. They had more possession and completed more passes than us. Clinical finishing? Yes, and great, but in the content of 6 league and cup games it's looking like the anomaly. We dont look like controlling anything. I think we'll be making the same complaints in 10 games time. The worst we've played this season was the first half vs Oldham where we somehow found ourselves 2 nil up. It was defence vs attack for a good 30 minutes and was almost embarrassing to watch it was that bad. The attacking play on display vs Stevenage was probably worse than it was today. We've played a few formations this season and the performances have been exactly the same. I get that the results haven't but how long were we going to ride our luck for?
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Post by fish on Aug 24, 2019 21:13:11 GMT
He has got to find the right balance in midfield. We get it, he likes three in there, whatever but make sure there's the right blend. Today it was palmer, hopeless and devine which was fucking embarrassing. We're at home to forest fucking green and we play three defensive mids who get a nosebleed when they pass the cunt forwards.
He's not signing a DM so palmer will have to do that job. Devine, hopeless and Anderson are conference north level so they can fuck off which leaves cooke and devitt. Palmer, Cooke and devitt is our best midfield. Its probably too attacking but its still more defensive minded and disciplined than the three amigos.
If we don't line up with those three at Crewe and don't win bowyer can fuck off.
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Post by smartmart on Aug 25, 2019 6:43:45 GMT
If Hope Akpan gets bullied by a team of grass eating hipsters, he should fuck off and take up knitting. Where’s those knitting needles. Useless as ever.
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Post by silverbantam on Aug 25, 2019 8:05:23 GMT
You do realise the players and coaches aren’t vegan just the owner.
Anyway they fucked US yesterday.
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Post by Dick on Aug 25, 2019 8:08:28 GMT
McCall V Plymouth. Hopkin v Barnsley. Bowyer v Vegans fc.
All games where a manager set us up worrying about the opponents - for the first two you could say it was the beginning of the end of them.
Yesterday should have been a hostile environment from the start and we should have been right on them - they made mistakes and misplaced passes under no pressure.
If Bowyer thinks that approach is acceptable in home games against teams in L2 that bring 50 fans he can just fuck off. Or the fans will.
Backing off to the point where fans are screaming at the players and booing them to press is not going to end well for Bowyer if he keeps doing it. Hes said often enough the need they crowd to get behind them and how they can use it - he must be mentally retarded if he thinks set ups like yesterday will get the crowd behind them.
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Aug 25, 2019 8:16:56 GMT
Setting up to counter a village team at home is the most pathetic thing this club has ever done.
We should be the biggest set of arrogant cunts in this division. We should be utterly hated. Instead we're a nice day out at a big ground for the tinpot outfits in this league.
I'm going to support Man City or something.
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Post by Dick on Aug 25, 2019 8:36:30 GMT
This is more apt - Setting up to counter a village team at home is the most typical Bradford City thing this club has ever done.
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Post by Bacon on Aug 25, 2019 8:53:58 GMT
On the way to the match I'd Radio L666s on and there was a trailer for the Richard Stead Breakfast Show. Face for radio.......
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Post by Fat Ade on Aug 25, 2019 9:21:18 GMT
Well that was fucking dreadful, I have zero idea what his plan was yesterday to score but it looks like we are back to playing on the luck factor. It was simply embarrassing at times watching that, I understand the instruction of letting them have the ball at the back but if their keeper is walking to the half way line, being further up the pitch than their centre halves, with zero pressure being applied, there is something quite obviously amiss. I saw that, others saw that, so why didn’t BowyerS see that?
I’ll offer a little insight into why and it’s because he’s quite happy playing the pantomime villain on the side lines. I watched him quite a bit yesterday and it’s all back slapping the fourth official, jovially breaking up the opposition manager with the fourth official, he looked to be having a great time....the fucking moron. Then you look at what Drury is doing, whilst their keeper is playing his Pirlo role, you have this nobody frantically clapping like the most enthusiastic gomper at the forwards for not closing down. It was fucking pathetic.
They were dreadful yesterday and we didn’t even lay a glove on them. There were several occasions where they would just pass the ball out play, continually stand on the ball and get caught up the field. Did we capitalise, did we fuck! No what we did was back off and back off, letting them off the hook each and every time. It all comes down to mentality to be honest and we are as weak as piss, just like last season. Spakpan needs dropping, Devine needs dropping, #scanz needs dropping and never used again, Gibson is vastly overrated by some in my opinion and finally BowyerS needs to go, he is no better than HopkinS!
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Post by hobbes on Aug 25, 2019 10:24:27 GMT
Well that was fucking dreadful, I have zero idea what his plan was yesterday to score but it looks like we are back to playing on the luck factor. It was simply embarrassing at times watching that, I understand the instruction of letting them have the ball at the back but if their keeper is walking to the half way line, being further up the pitch than their centre halves, with zero pressure being applied, there is something quite obviously amiss. I saw that, others saw that, so why didn’t BowyerS see that? I’ll offer a little insight into why and it’s because he’s quite happy playing the pantomime villain on the side lines. I watched him quite a bit yesterday and it’s all back slapping the fourth official, jovially breaking up the opposition manager with the fourth official, he looked to be having a great time....the fucking moron. Then you look at what Drury is doing, whilst their keeper is playing his Pirlo role, you have this nobody frantically clapping like the most enthusiastic gomper at the forwards for not closing down. It was fucking pathetic. They were dreadful yesterday and we didn’t even lay a glove on them. There were several occasions where they would just pass the ball out play, continually stand on the ball and get caught up the field. Did we capitalise, did we fuck! No what we did was back off and back off, letting them off the hook each and every time. It all comes down to mentality to be honest and we are as weak as piss, just like last season. Spakpan needs dropping, Devine needs dropping, #scanz needs dropping and never used again, Gibson is vastly overrated by some in my opinion and finally BowyerS needs to go, he is no better than HopkinS! Word.
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Post by bantam147 on Aug 25, 2019 10:35:16 GMT
League 2 football is soul destroying. Fuck that. I wont be back next season, and I dont see us going up.
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Post by Dick on Aug 25, 2019 10:42:16 GMT
League 2 football is soul destroying. Fuck that. I wont be back next season, and I dont see us going up. It was definitely a throwback to McCall Management Era 1 yesterday. That clueless feeling when often felt when we played right into a team like Forest Green's set up and gameplan, only to see them have the last laugh as we're all screaming at the ref and calling our own manager a cunt. At least he was a novice with no L2 knowledge at all, Bowyer has the experience to know fucking better. Games like that are a total waste of time and money (even with a flexi), a complete non event in terms of football played or entertainment. Rather do something else to be honest.
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Post by jdc on Aug 25, 2019 17:08:38 GMT
I don't think I've seen a worse team than them. For huge parts of the game they were incapable of doing the absolute basics of the game. But they still won. First half I thought Gibson was excellent, Devitt replaced him and looked lazy and disinterested. Thought Cooke looked OK when he came on, why he replaced Palmer and not Akpan is beyond me. They had the epitome of a dodgy keeper yet we hardly made him work, his own team put under more pressure than we did. One of those games, but it's deffo down to Bowyer. Anyone see what happened at the end? According to Bowyer, it was just a bit of shouting and "one or two players wanted to swap shirts". FGR manager blamed the referee for the aggro and said he ruined the game for both teams. I thought Bowyer ruined the game with his tactics, personnel, and substitutions but there you go.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Aug 25, 2019 23:00:59 GMT
Well that was fucking dreadful, I have zero idea what his plan was yesterday to score but it looks like we are back to playing on the luck factor. It was simply embarrassing at times watching that, I understand the instruction of letting them have the ball at the back but if their keeper is walking to the half way line, being further up the pitch than their centre halves, with zero pressure being applied, there is something quite obviously amiss. I saw that, others saw that, so why didn’t BowyerS see that? I’ll offer a little insight into why and it’s because he’s quite happy playing the pantomime villain on the side lines. I watched him quite a bit yesterday and it’s all back slapping the fourth official, jovially breaking up the opposition manager with the fourth official, he looked to be having a great time....the fucking moron. Then you look at what Drury is doing, whilst their keeper is playing his Pirlo role, you have this nobody frantically clapping like the most enthusiastic gomper at the forwards for not closing down. It was fucking pathetic. They were dreadful yesterday and we didn’t even lay a glove on them. There were several occasions where they would just pass the ball out play, continually stand on the ball and get caught up the field. Did we capitalise, did we fuck! No what we did was back off and back off, letting them off the hook each and every time. It all comes down to mentality to be honest and we are as weak as piss, just like last season. Spakpan needs dropping, Devine needs dropping, #scanz needs dropping and never used again, Gibson is vastly overrated by some in my opinion and finally BowyerS needs to go, he is no better than HopkinS! Fuck me, we’re still employing Drury?
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