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Post by Neshead on Jul 11, 2018 22:01:23 GMT
Reading social media after the England game is like listening to the happy clappers at City. Like losing in a semi final is some great achievement. Get the fuck out of here, nobody remembers a semi final loser. 3rd 0r 4th place playoff now, just fucking great.
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Post by BingomoanyBob on Jul 11, 2018 22:34:56 GMT
Reading social media after the England game is like listening to the happy clappers at City. Like losing in a semi final is some great achievement. Get the fuck out of here, nobody remembers a semi final loser. 3rd 0r 4th place playoff now, just fucking great. It was like watching Parky as England manager. No ability to adapt, 'sensible' like for like subs and the writing on the wall 40 mins before it actually happened. Media darling Southgate? Waistcoated twat. Delle for the full game? Young players and a new generation, sounds like David O'fucking Leary's babies, how did that work out? New generation, same old shite irrespective of the hype. This post may make no sense come the alarm tomorrow, or indeed now- apologies; luckily we have an exciting new season to look forward to.
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Jul 11, 2018 22:50:24 GMT
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Post by skybantam on Jul 11, 2018 22:50:24 GMT
Ah well. At least we've still got City to make our footballing dreams a reality....
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Post by Dick on Jul 11, 2018 22:52:38 GMT
A last minute win against someone from north Africa and a thumping of a load of farmers and England fans, media and bandwagon jumpers were all waking themselves silly.
Scraped through against Columbia, then a reasonable win in arguably the easiest quarter final and were done tonight by quality on the floor when it mattered.
Can't rely on penalties and set pieces all the time. England miss that ruthless flair to carve sides open or to pounce on a chance like Mandzuckic did.
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Post by skybantam on Jul 11, 2018 22:57:57 GMT
They did their best, they had enough chances to win it first half but they didn't, and then our lack of quality in midfield was finally shown up. No complaints, they are a good, experienced side Croatia. The comments above, well, i think they are just the usual ' thecowsarse random expletive induced hyperbole for effect' posts tbh. If you can't give them any credit at all, it's a bit dissapointing. I fancied Croatia, i said as much, you obviously on one hand bemoan all our failings after the event, yet also thought we could win. You can't have it both ways. I am proud of the team, happy to be an England gomper.
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Post by BingomoanyBob on Jul 11, 2018 23:22:45 GMT
They did their best, they had enough chances to win it first half but they didn't, and then our lack of quality in midfield was finally shown up. No complaints, they are a good, experienced side Croatia. The comments above, well, i think they are just the usual ' thecowsarse random expletive induced hyperbole for effect' posts tbh. If you can't give them any credit at all, it's a bit dissapointing. I fancied Croatia, i said as much, you obviously on one hand bemoan all our failings after the event, yet also thought we could win. You can't have it both ways. I am proud of the team, happy to be an England gomper. Never thought we could win, given the limitations of the management. I do, however, believe that given the quality of the squad we could have won the match, but with better management- I said this during the first half, not in hindsight. Good for you and your Gomperism, but if you don't like 'the usual thecowsarse random expletive induced hyperbole for effect posts tbh' feel free to fuck off to pastures recently new and discuss Filey and tuttling in the back of cars.
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Post by Hoochy on Jul 11, 2018 23:42:59 GMT
I've enjoyed the ride but our luck ran dry. So many set piece goals tells its own story. We're bang average as suggested and we had some luck. Croatia deserved it on the night and their team is full of players in first teams all over Europe with a couple of elite players to boot. Almost got through on the crest of a wave but alas.
Some say we might go on and learn from this like the young German side but I'm not so sure. Until our players start playing over Europe we're stuck in this loop of reverting to type and knocking it long when the chips are down.
We were so direct tonight. I think it was a tactic at first to keep them deep as we played Sterling on the last man. I thought we'd do that for the first 20 to keep them honest and then play our football but we kept it direct for the whole game which is a change from the previous matches and it surprised me. Croatia clearly got told how to play us second half and we couldn't adapt.
We're still so naive.
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Post by skybantam on Jul 12, 2018 0:22:16 GMT
They did their best, they had enough chances to win it first half but they didn't, and then our lack of quality in midfield was finally shown up. No complaints, they are a good, experienced side Croatia. The comments above, well, i think they are just the usual ' thecowsarse random expletive induced hyperbole for effect' posts tbh. If you can't give them any credit at all, it's a bit dissapointing. I fancied Croatia, i said as much, you obviously on one hand bemoan all our failings after the event, yet also thought we could win. You can't have it both ways. I am proud of the team, happy to be an England gomper. Never thought we could win, given the limitations of the management. I do, however, believe that given the quality of the squad we could have won the match, but with better management- I said this during the first half, not in hindsight. Good for you and your Gomperism, but if you don't like 'the usual thecowsarse random expletive induced hyperbole for effect posts tbh' feel free to fuck off to pastures recently new and discuss Filey and tuttling in the back of cars. I never thought we'd win tonight, but i'm not sitting here waiting to disect what really, was obviously an unremarkable outcome for an average side. On another day we might have won with a bit of luck and i don't think management was the reason overall. If anything it has been a positive. Our failings lie in ability to keep the ball, having top class midfielders and making the right decisions. It nearly cost us v columbia tbf, not seeing it out. However, It's ok if you cried tonight Bob, it doesn't make you less of a man.
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Jul 12, 2018 6:12:24 GMT
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Post by billycasper on Jul 12, 2018 6:12:24 GMT
Reading social media after the England game is like listening to the happy clappers at City. Like losing in a semi final is some great achievement. Get the fuck out of here, nobody remembers a semi final loser. 3rd 0r 4th place playoff now, just fucking great. We played 2 decent sides and they both beat us. At least now I can go to the pub and not be surrounded by a load of fucking knobheads shouting at Sterling every 5 minutes.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 12, 2018 6:17:05 GMT
England’s midfield isn’t good enough. Alli needs to start playing like he does for Spurs and Henderson needs booting altogether. We’re so desperate for a Modric who can run a game or a Gazza who can create something out of nothing. England’s midfield is as flat as City’s traditionally is and it cost us.
I thought Henderson, Young, Alli and Kane were poor last night. On the plus side players like Trippier, Maguire and Pickford have all shown they can mix with the elite.
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Post by Neshead on Jul 12, 2018 6:23:48 GMT
England’s midfield isn’t good enough. Alli needs to start playing like he does for Spurs and Henderson needs booting altogether. We’re so desperate for a Modric who can run a game or a Gazza who can create something out of nothing. England’s midfield is as flat as City’s traditionally is and it cost us. I thought Henderson, Young, Alli and Kane were poor last night. On the plus side plates like Trippier, Maguire and Pickford have all shown they can mix with the elite. This in a nutshell. I don't think you can criticise Southgate, he got the best out of what is an average side at international level bar Kane, and when he doesn't play to his best we are the same as every other average international side. Got to see how Southgate can now develop this side further, as you say the glaring weakness is a quality midfielder. They were crying out for one last night, evn my young called it half way through the first half, "We won't win this game playing like this." They had a good run but show me a good loser and i'll show you a happy winner. Everytime.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 12, 2018 8:30:42 GMT
Reading social media after the England game is like listening to the happy clappers at City. Like losing in a semi final is some great achievement. Get the fuck out of here, nobody remembers a semi final loser. 3rd 0r 4th place playoff now, just fucking great. I'm having that exact argument with a few at work. 'Just be proud'. Of what? Losing? To fucking Croatia? Celebrating at losing a semi final is exactly why we win fuck all. It's not an achievement. Germany, Spain, Brazil, Argentina - they don't celebrate unless they win the fucking thing. Tripper, Pickford, Maguire, Stones all had good tournaments. Henderson was quietly effective. The rest? Nah. Even Kane didn't do much apart from his pens. Look at our actual results. We beat Tunisia, Panama and Sweden. Big fucking deal. Any time a half decent side took the initiative - Belgium, Columbia in the last 15 mins, Croatia in the second half - we can't cope. Our second half performance last night was abysmal. The press are bigging this up as 'something we can build on'. Maybe. But I doubt it. We were generally defensive and played for set pieces. The 'playing out from the back' thing was a myth. It was aimless stuff. Set pieces, luck of the draw and a bit of defensive resilience is all we saw. Like Stoke having a run to an FA Cup final whilst dodging teams like City, Liverpool, United and Chelsea along the way.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 12, 2018 8:34:24 GMT
England’s midfield isn’t good enough. Alli needs to start playing like he does for Spurs and Henderson needs booting altogether. We’re so desperate for a Modric who can run a game or a Gazza who can create something out of nothing. England’s midfield is as flat as City’s traditionally is and it cost us. I thought Henderson, Young, Alli and Kane were poor last night. On the plus side players like Trippier, Maguire and Pickford have all shown they can mix with the elite. Bit harsh on Henderson, but you're right. We lack proper technical quality. Watching Sterling is like watching Kyel fucking Reid. We need the young english players who're winning U19, 20, 21 tournaments playing games week in, week out. More of our players need to play abroad too, learn different ways of playing football, different cultures etc.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 12, 2018 8:45:18 GMT
England’s midfield isn’t good enough. Alli needs to start playing like he does for Spurs and Henderson needs booting altogether. We’re so desperate for a Modric who can run a game or a Gazza who can create something out of nothing. England’s midfield is as flat as City’s traditionally is and it cost us. I thought Henderson, Young, Alli and Kane were poor last night. On the plus side players like Trippier, Maguire and Pickford have all shown they can mix with the elite. Bit harsh on Henderson, but you're right. We lack proper technical quality. Watching Sterling is like watching Kyel fucking Reid. We need the young english players who're winning U19, 20, 21 tournaments playing games week in, week out. More of our players need to play abroad too, learn different ways of playing football, different cultures etc. These giant, Premier League academies churn out players like puppy farms. Robots taught what’s ‘right’ and what’s ‘wrong’ and come out the other side devoid of any flair or expression. The players look like they’re going through procedure on the pitch because, in many cases, that’s exactly what they are doing. We get beat by nations considered poorer both monetarily and structurally because they can’t afford to run these huge, player manufacturies and their players haven’t had the footballing life drilled out of them from eight years old. They’re out playing in the streets with their mates and they don’t get gobbled up by the footballing machine until they’ve learnt to play with abandon and enjoy it. We watch footballing automatons for whom football has always been about pressure and ‘progressing their career’. They watch mavericks who realise how lucky they are and play like it could all end tomorrow. And Henderson’s shit
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Post by Attentive Onlooker on Jul 12, 2018 8:55:14 GMT
I'm kind of happy that we're back to being shit again.
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Post by Dick on Jul 12, 2018 9:00:56 GMT
I'm kind of happy that we're back to being shit again. I'm no England fan but also it'll be good all the football bandwagon jumpers will fuck off for another few years. I work in am office mostly comprised of women - not football fans at all and they're virtually all going on about it, and were shocked when I told them I couldn't give it a shit and haven't watched any games. Some people will say that's a great thing about a world cup. Is it fuck. They're all lauding them now as fucking heroes and demi gods for having a relatively fortunate run to the semis. Heroes my fucking arse. And all this 'proud to be english'... just fuck off away with it.
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Post by Bacon on Jul 12, 2018 9:01:04 GMT
I'm kind of happy that we're back to being shit again. I don't think they ever stopped being shit. They might well have stopped being cunts, but that's it.
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Post by Hoochy on Jul 12, 2018 9:03:02 GMT
I agree about playing out from the back being a myth. Apart from the odd (impressive) burst forward from Maguire it was more about possession than progression up the pitch.
When they were on top and they were keeping the ball it was their midfielders doing it and there was a threat of a forward break that we had to worry about.
A word on Sterling too. Yes he runs all day and is a constant threat on the shoulder of the defensive line but there has to be some end product ffs. His shooting, touch, crossing and passing was awful the whole tournament and he does much better for Man City so it's inexcusable.
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Post by Nice boy on Jul 12, 2018 9:03:24 GMT
I'm just glad we have a country to support.
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Post by Bacon on Jul 12, 2018 9:06:06 GMT
Millwall's run to the 2004 FA cup final
Home teams listed first.
Round 3: Millwall 2–1 Walsall
Round 4: Telford United 0–2 Millwall
Round 5: Millwall 1–0 Burnley
Round 6: Millwall 0–0 Tranmere Rovers Replay: Tranmere Rovers 1–2 Millwall Semi-final: Sunderland 0–1 Millwall (at Old Trafford)
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