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Post by Neshead on Jun 7, 2017 5:58:29 GMT
Somebody do the link for us pretty please. I've just read it, quite deflating really. Business wise it might make some sense but this is football. Fans want something exciting to hold on to. Lower budgets, curbing enthusiastic expectations and a load of untried youngsters ain't gonna cut it. Could be a long season....
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Post by Nice boy on Jun 7, 2017 6:20:53 GMT
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Post by Lofty on Jun 7, 2017 6:21:00 GMT
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Post by Nice boy on Jun 7, 2017 6:24:00 GMT
Somebody do the link for us pretty please. I've just read it, quite deflating really. Business wise it might make some sense but this is football. Fans want something exciting to hold on to. Lower budgets, curbing enthusiastic expectations and a load of untried youngsters ain't gonna cut it. Could be a long season.... Spot on. It's easy to see why they were reluctant to extend the season ticket deadline. Given the negativity atm no one would buy one. It doesn't sound too encouraging. He's basically saying we are going to spend the next 2/3 seasons in league 1. Great.
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Post by Hobhead on Jun 7, 2017 6:37:57 GMT
One minute he's going for automatics, the next we're lowering expectations. I'm an emotional wreck!
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Post by God on Jun 12, 2017 7:41:49 GMT
I don't trust him.
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Post by Lofty on Jun 12, 2017 8:01:26 GMT
I do. What's in it for them if it all goes tits up?
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Post by God on Jun 12, 2017 8:32:58 GMT
I do. What's in it for them if it all goes tits up? I think they want to make money so they want a budget squad that can get them to the premier league in the next 5 years. If it dunt happen they'll bail.
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Post by Lofty on Jun 12, 2017 8:38:24 GMT
I do. What's in it for them if it all goes tits up? I think they want to make money so they want a budget squad that can get them to the premier league in the next 5 years. If it dunt happen they'll bail. Swings and roundabouts. They can't get to the money tree without investing a fair whack and that's their aim. Time will tell.
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Post by bantam147 on Jun 12, 2017 8:39:28 GMT
I do. What's in it for them if it all goes tits up? I think they want to make money so they want a budget squad that can get them to the premier league in the next 5 years. If it dunt happen they'll bail. I think their aim - and they've pretty much said it - is to pick up the young cast offs from the big clubs in the northwest and try to develop them, with the aim of creating a repeatable cycle of selling on at big profit. If it works, it's a self sustaining model and they can cream a bit off the top. Get into the championship and then we become a saleable asset.
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Post by Neshead on Jun 12, 2017 9:26:28 GMT
I think they want to make money so they want a budget squad that can get them to the premier league in the next 5 years. If it dunt happen they'll bail. I think their aim - and they've pretty much said it - is to pick up the young cast offs from the big clubs in the northwest and try to develop them, with the aim of creating a repeatable cycle of selling on at big profit. If it works, it's a self sustaining model and they can cream a bit off the top. Get into the championship and then we become a saleable asset. This is hardly a groundbreaking strategy. I was reading an article from the Fleetwood chairman a year or so ago, they were interviewing him regarding the new training facility which they have built, best part of £10 million including all weather pitches, bars and a restaurant. Their chairman is very forward thinking and was saying how he hopes to pick up the talent around the Fylde coast and surrounding areas that normally ends up at the North West Premiership clubs and give these youngsters a realistic route into league football rather than being discarded by the big boys like they do with 1,000s of kids every year. Now if that's how our new owners are looking to operate I can see the logic but it needs big off the field investment, the likes of which Fleetwood and Peterborough have done but it ain't cheap. I've yet to see what sort of investment our owners are willing to stump up.
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Post by Train (F-2547) on Jun 12, 2017 20:43:55 GMT
I think their aim - and they've pretty much said it - is to pick up the young cast offs from the big clubs in the northwest and try to develop them, with the aim of creating a repeatable cycle of selling on at big profit. If it works, it's a self sustaining model and they can cream a bit off the top. Get into the championship and then we become a saleable asset. This is hardly a groundbreaking strategy. I was reading an article from the Fleetwood chairman a year or so ago, they were interviewing him regarding the new training facility which they have built, best part of £10 million including all weather pitches, bars and a restaurant. Their chairman is very forward thinking and was saying how he hopes to pick up the talent around the Fylde coast and surrounding areas that normally ends up at the North West Premiership clubs and give these youngsters a realistic route into league football rather than being discarded by the big boys like they do with 1,000s of kids every year. Now if that's how our new owners are looking to operate I can see the logic but it needs big off the field investment, the likes of which Fleetwood and Peterborough have done but it ain't cheap. I've yet to see what sort of investment our owners are willing to stump up. I've still got faith, he didn't rate Hanson. Gotta be worth something
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Post by Neshead on Jun 12, 2017 20:53:14 GMT
This is hardly a groundbreaking strategy. I was reading an article from the Fleetwood chairman a year or so ago, they were interviewing him regarding the new training facility which they have built, best part of £10 million including all weather pitches, bars and a restaurant. Their chairman is very forward thinking and was saying how he hopes to pick up the talent around the Fylde coast and surrounding areas that normally ends up at the North West Premiership clubs and give these youngsters a realistic route into league football rather than being discarded by the big boys like they do with 1,000s of kids every year. Now if that's how our new owners are looking to operate I can see the logic but it needs big off the field investment, the likes of which Fleetwood and Peterborough have done but it ain't cheap. I've yet to see what sort of investment our owners are willing to stump up. I've still got faith, he didn't rate Hanson. Gotta be worth something According to PGB, Rahic is batshit crazy, i can see him being the new manager and the penalty taker at the same time.
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Post by Train (F-2547) on Jun 12, 2017 20:54:39 GMT
I've still got faith, he didn't rate Hanson. Gotta be worth something According to PGB, Rahic is batshit crazy, i can see him being the new manager and the penalty taker at the same time. It's either gonna be fucking sweet or a fucking disaster 😂
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Post by Dick on Jun 15, 2017 12:28:03 GMT
For me, it's no coincidence they've taken us over when the new PL tv deal comes in.
Every possible new owner looking at a club with 'potential' - we have a decent fan base mostly because they don't want to pay a lot - for me has more than one eye on getting to the PL.
That ridiculous TV rights deal is only going to make the financial gap worse, but a goldmine for those who get there.
Look at Dudders - if they finish bottom next year they still get £95 million, more than if you win the champions league. Then the parachute payments are around £60-80m. And some divs were happy for them to go up because we got small change from them.
That doesn't mean we're getting arseholes by the Germans. But the only reason wealthy people become involved in football clubs is to make more money - it's why all these foreign owners come to England.
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Post by bantam147 on Jun 15, 2017 12:38:43 GMT
For me, it's no coincidence they've taken us over when the new PL tv deal comes in. Every possible new owner looking at a club with 'potential' - we have a decent fan base mostly because they don't want to pay a lot - for me has more than one eye on getting to the PL. That ridiculous TV rights deal is only going to make the financial gap worse, but a goldmine for those who get there. Look at Dudders - if they finish bottom next year they still get £95 million, more than if you win the champions league. Then the parachute payments are around £60-80m. And people were happy for them to go up because we got small change from them. That doesn't mean we're getting shafted by any means. But the only reason wealthy people become involved in football clubs is to make more money. True, bit you've gotta speculate to accumulate. The frustration for me is that when you look at the revenue we generate from our fan base and some of the extra money we've come into from sell ons etc it'd 'only' take an extra couple of million quid to give us the sort of budget to assemble the sort of squad that Sheff Utd had last season. My hope is that they're taking the time to get the wider foundations of the club to a point whereby we could sustain championship football, then if necessary throw money at getting there.
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Post by Dick on Jun 15, 2017 12:42:37 GMT
bantam147 - Indeed. They'll want to make a shit ton of money, but I suppose there's a 'better' way to do it that isn't as twattish as what some - eg the Oystons - do whereby the club and its supporters are just fucked over and they keep turning up for more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 12:52:49 GMT
Since they took us over I've always thought the owners are only here to get us to the prem take their cut and sell us on again. But we're only worth any money in the prem so everyone wins if they do it
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Post by Lofty on Jun 15, 2017 13:52:05 GMT
Too many people were quick to get suspicious of the owners motives but it's simple in terms of they can only do well out of us if we're doing well on the pitch.
They can't "fuck us over" without fucking themselves over a hundred times worse.
Agree with B147 though, chuck a million or so quid at us budget wise and you more them make your money back should we progress to the Championship next season. The fact there are no big hitters (Sheffield Utd and Bolton) reduces the risk massively.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2017 14:03:05 GMT
Too many people were quick to get suspicious of the owners motives but it's simple in terms of they can only do well out of us if we're doing well on the pitch. They can't "fuck us over" without fucking themselves over a hundred times worse. Agree with B147 though, chuck a million or so quid at us budget wise and you more them make your money back should we progress to the Championship next season. The fact there are no big hitters (Sheffield Utd and Bolton) reduces the risk massively. Agree mostly except I think it's tougher this season and there's a lot more teams with potential to spend big than there was last season with Bury already proving it
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