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Post by Dick on Aug 26, 2022 12:11:49 GMT
You may recall I left my crap job last year for health reasons. I recently got made redundant from another crap job.
For various reasons I'm considering a career change. All I'll say is the pandemic had seen a shift in my industry and lowered the bar in terms of skill value. More work is being outsourced to the cheapest place possible, thanks to tools like Canva people can churn out what they want.
I think a few of you are in the trades? I'm thinking of a shift to one of them as a possibility, partly for job security (can't outsource plumbing to India) and doing something that feels more worthwhile than just pushing buttons at a desk and looking at a screen all day long.
Basically as a general question is it feasible for someone who's nearly 40 and what do you think the in demand areas will be in the next 5-10 years? I haven't decided on any particular route yet, just asking for thoughts. Ta.
*Onlyfans is not an option.
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Post by Bacon on Aug 26, 2022 12:29:07 GMT
Can't go wrong with the trades, plumbing especially is essentially a piece of piss since the invention of push fit plastic. Doesn't kill you like pesky gas or electricity either. Plus it's always the plumber in porn videos isn't it? Never a spark or the Corgi guy (unless it's a real Corgi and that's highly specialist). So in short, plumbing.
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Post by bantam147 on Aug 26, 2022 12:44:57 GMT
Plumbers, Sparks, Builders, Joiners. I'm doing an extension and have struggled to get them lined up. There'll always be demand.
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Post by Neshead on Aug 26, 2022 14:59:33 GMT
Funny, as someone who is classed as a tradesman I'm looking to go the other way. That said I'm 50 and lumping fire doors 8 x 4 sheets about is backbreaking these days. Be wary of these quick trades courses, they cost a pretty penny and teach little of what happens in the real world.
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Post by Bacon on Aug 26, 2022 15:26:48 GMT
Funny, as someone who is classed as a tradesman I'm looking to go the other way. That said I'm 50 and lumping fire doors 8 x 4 sheets about is backbreaking these days. Be wary of these quick trades courses, they cost a pretty penny and teach little of what happens in the real world. Hey up Hoochy, he's looking to go the other way.....
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Post by Hoochy on Aug 26, 2022 15:29:42 GMT
Funny, as someone who is classed as a tradesman I'm looking to go the other way. That said I'm 50 and lumping fire doors 8 x 4 sheets about is backbreaking these days. Be wary of these quick trades courses, they cost a pretty penny and teach little of what happens in the real world. Hey up Hoochy, he's looking to go the other way..... He's always talked about bumming and that. I knew he'd come round.
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Post by Hoochy on Aug 26, 2022 15:34:06 GMT
You may recall I left my crap job last year for health reasons. I recently got made redundant from another crap job. For various reasons I'm considering a career change. All I'll say is the pandemic had seen a shift in my industry and lowered the bar in terms of skill value. More work is being outsourced to the cheapest place possible, thanks to tools like Canva people can churn out what they want. I think a few of you are in the trades? I'm thinking of a shift to one of them as a possibility, partly for job security (can't outsource plumbing to India) and doing something that feels more worthwhile than just pushing buttons at a desk and looking at a screen all day long. Basically as a general question is it feasible for someone who's nearly 40 and what do you think the in demand areas will be in the next 5-10 years? I haven't decided on any particular route yet, just asking for thoughts. Ta. *Onlyfans is not an option. Plumbers will always be in demand but you might will get covered in human shit on occasion. If I was retraining I'd be going into renewable energy. There's several people out there combining solar, hydro and wind to charge batteries for home use. That industry will only grow.
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Post by Lofty on Aug 26, 2022 17:44:39 GMT
I'm in FM which basically means I sit at a computer and email our suppliers and contractors to get them to get shit done. It's shit. I'm nearly 40 though so I'm too old and lazy to change.
Although if sexy Paula ever leaves I could be the new sexy Paula down at City.
If I could I'd get into plastering. Seems to be in demand and you don't get electrocuted, gassed or shat on so happy days.
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Post by Neshead on Aug 26, 2022 18:59:57 GMT
I'm in FM which basically means I sit at a computer and email our suppliers and contractors to get them to get shit done. It's shit. I'm nearly 40 though so I'm too old and lazy to change. Although if sexy Paula ever leaves I could be the new sexy Paula down at City. If I could I'd get into plastering. Seems to be in demand and you don't get electrocuted, gassed or shat on so happy days. I can plaster but it's hard graft, I couldn't do it full time as I have a fucked shoulder. Hoochy is on the right lines with renewables. Tie it in with smart homes and remote access and it's a growing market
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Aug 29, 2022 10:41:36 GMT
One of my regrets is not learning a proper trade when i was younger. I'm 41 now so can't see the point in starting from scratch.
I've recently started a new job as a bus driver (only passed my PCV a couple weeks ago) and i'm quite enjoying so far... ...i don't envisage any future career changes, so hopefully this will see me through to retirement.
Strange thing is a have graduate friends who are still in £20k office jobs, while other mates in blue collar trades are touching six figures.
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Post by Dick on Aug 29, 2022 11:18:10 GMT
Thanks all. I'm giving it serious thought and looking into it, we moved into a 60s house last year that hasn't been touched part of that was doing up what we could and getting proper help where needed and that got me thinking.
I also just couldn't stand LinkedIn culture. I'd rather rot my mind on the Bradford City Facebook group.
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Post by tetchyarse on Aug 29, 2022 11:32:33 GMT
I can't give any practical advice. I'm nearly 40 and moved last year from the charity sector to work as a civil servant in the regulatory sector. Having moved, I'm not rushing to move again.
But LinkedIn is almost as bad as Twitter.
Having worked a lot as a debt adviser, helping sole traders in particular, one piece of advice: keep your business and personal finances separate. The number of people I've worked with who consider the cash in their hand as profit and can't understand why a) they never have any money and b) why HMRC are always shouting at them...
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Post by Dick on Aug 29, 2022 11:44:25 GMT
I can't give any practical advice. I'm nearly 40 and moved last year from the charity sector to work as a civil servant in the regulatory sector. Having moved, I'm not rushing to move again. But LinkedIn is almost as bad as Twitter. Having worked a lot as a debt adviser, helping sole traders in particular, one piece of advice: keep your business and personal finances separate. The number of people I've worked with who consider the cash in their hand as profit and can't understand why a) they never have any money and b) why HMRC are always shouting at them... Yep, seen that first hand - brother in law is a good PT who part owns a gym. Hasn't paid tax properly for years - come to a point now where their family of 5 is too big for the small terrace they rent and are looking at buying. So he's had to come clean to get a mortgage - and in doing so been told he has to pay about £15k back in tax... He's 10yrs younger and barely saved anything as well, always having nights out / weekends away, changes £40k car every year etc. I get it's great to have money and spend it at that age but you can't have everything.
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Post by Neshead on Aug 29, 2022 11:49:46 GMT
I can't give any practical advice. I'm nearly 40 and moved last year from the charity sector to work as a civil servant in the regulatory sector. Having moved, I'm not rushing to move again. But LinkedIn is almost as bad as Twitter. Having worked a lot as a debt adviser, helping sole traders in particular, one piece of advice: keep your business and personal finances separate. The number of people I've worked with who consider the cash in their hand as profit and can't understand why a) they never have any money and b) why HMRC are always shouting at them... As a sole trader myself the best advice i could give someone is get a business account, my Starling one is free, and get an accountant. Don't even try to do your own finances, HMRC are no help at all.
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Post by bantam147 on Aug 29, 2022 12:40:35 GMT
Thanks all. I'm giving it serious thought and looking into it, we moved into a 60s house last year that hasn't been touched part of that was doing up what we could and getting proper help where needed and that got me thinking. I also just couldn't stand LinkedIn culture. I'd rather rot my mind on the Bradford City Facebook group. I'm in a senior position in the company I work for. The corporate mentality now has become infected with wokism, big time. Not just at my company, I see it everywhere. I'm recruiting for another senior role through an exec head hunting recruitment firm. As we discussed tge importance of diversity and inclusion, and the general lack of women in senior positions across the industry I work in, I was asked whether I wanted them to exclude white males from their recruitment assessment. Seriously.
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Post by Neshead on Aug 29, 2022 13:54:32 GMT
Thanks all. I'm giving it serious thought and looking into it, we moved into a 60s house last year that hasn't been touched part of that was doing up what we could and getting proper help where needed and that got me thinking. I also just couldn't stand LinkedIn culture. I'd rather rot my mind on the Bradford City Facebook group. I'm in a senior position in the company I work for. The corporate mentality now has become infected with wokism, big time. Not just at my company, I see it everywhere. I'm recruiting for another senior role through an exec head hunting recruitment firm. As we discussed tge importance of diversity and inclusion, and the general lack of women in senior positions across the industry I work in, I was asked whether I wanted them to exclude white males from their recruitment assessment. Seriously. Haha could you imagine the uproar if they asked you if you wanted one legged black lesbian transvestites excluding?
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Aug 29, 2022 13:55:09 GMT
Thanks all. I'm giving it serious thought and looking into it, we moved into a 60s house last year that hasn't been touched part of that was doing up what we could and getting proper help where needed and that got me thinking. I also just couldn't stand LinkedIn culture. I'd rather rot my mind on the Bradford City Facebook group. I'm in a senior position in the company I work for. The corporate mentality now has become infected with wokism, big time. Not just at my company, I see it everywhere. I'm recruiting for another senior role through an exec head hunting recruitment firm. As we discussed tge importance of diversity and inclusion, and the general lack of women in senior positions across the industry I work in, I was asked whether I wanted them to exclude white males from their recruitment assessment. Seriously. Aren't skin colour and gender are protected characteristics under equality legislation? Surely even the wokerati aren't above the law? Or maybe they are.
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Post by Lofty on Aug 29, 2022 15:21:21 GMT
Thanks all. I'm giving it serious thought and looking into it, we moved into a 60s house last year that hasn't been touched part of that was doing up what we could and getting proper help where needed and that got me thinking. I also just couldn't stand LinkedIn culture. I'd rather rot my mind on the Bradford City Facebook group. I'm in a senior position in the company I work for. The corporate mentality now has become infected with wokism, big time. Not just at my company, I see it everywhere. I'm recruiting for another senior role through an exec head hunting recruitment firm. As we discussed tge importance of diversity and inclusion, and the general lack of women in senior positions across the industry I work in, I was asked whether I wanted them to exclude white males from their recruitment assessment. Seriously. I've had my hand slapped for not including my pronouns in my email signature.
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Post by Dick on Aug 29, 2022 17:20:17 GMT
I'm in a senior position in the company I work for. The corporate mentality now has become infected with wokism, big time. Not just at my company, I see it everywhere. I'm recruiting for another senior role through an exec head hunting recruitment firm. As we discussed tge importance of diversity and inclusion, and the general lack of women in senior positions across the industry I work in, I was asked whether I wanted them to exclude white males from their recruitment assessment. Seriously. I've had my hand slapped for not including my pronouns in my email signature. They tried to do it to us in a previous role. Me and few others didn't do it, and why asked why not I just smiled, said no and shook my head - like you would if someone tried to get you to sign up to something in the street (unless you're the sort that stops and calls them a twat). If they asked again / asked a probing follow up I'd just do the same again. Not give any reason, just a quick 'no'. None of their business as to why, just 'no'.
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Post by tetchyarse on Aug 30, 2022 7:17:39 GMT
I can't give any practical advice. I'm nearly 40 and moved last year from the charity sector to work as a civil servant in the regulatory sector. Having moved, I'm not rushing to move again. But LinkedIn is almost as bad as Twitter. Having worked a lot as a debt adviser, helping sole traders in particular, one piece of advice: keep your business and personal finances separate. The number of people I've worked with who consider the cash in their hand as profit and can't understand why a) they never have any money and b) why HMRC are always shouting at them... As a sole trader myself the best advice i could give someone is get a business account, my Starling one is free, and get an accountant. Don't even try to do your own finances, HMRC are no help at all. HMRC are useless unless you get to speak with the expert teams. I was a trustee of a charity and VAT in particular was a nightmare, HMRC telling us it was up to us how we managed it but they'd fine us if we got it wrong. And we had professional accountants. Trying to deal with them as a non-resident (different tax here innit) is painful. Accountants pay for themselves. Thanks all. I'm giving it serious thought and looking into it, we moved into a 60s house last year that hasn't been touched part of that was doing up what we could and getting proper help where needed and that got me thinking. I also just couldn't stand LinkedIn culture. I'd rather rot my mind on the Bradford City Facebook group. I'm in a senior position in the company I work for. The corporate mentality now has become infected with wokism, big time. Not just at my company, I see it everywhere. I'm recruiting for another senior role through an exec head hunting recruitment firm. As we discussed tge importance of diversity and inclusion, and the general lack of women in senior positions across the industry I work in, I was asked whether I wanted them to exclude white males from their recruitment assessment. Seriously. I am a woke lefty liberal, and pronouns just make me roll my eyes. I don't mind if people put then on their emails but I'm not playing the game because I'm not unhinged enough to care if someone gets it wrong. As for recruitment agents, regardless of the level they are all imbeciles.
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