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Mar 5, 2022 17:45:40 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 5, 2022 17:45:40 GMT
A touching rendition of YNWA in the Liverpool game, in support of Ukraine.
Sadly ironic, because Walking Alone is exactly what the poor cunts are doing
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 5, 2022 18:09:31 GMT
The UK are doing fuck all to help Ukraine and doing fuck all to hinder Russia.
It's almost as though the ruling Conservative Party are pretty much entirely bankrolled by businessmen with strong links to the Kremlin.
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 5, 2022 18:14:21 GMT
The UK are doing fuck all to help Ukraine and doing fuck all to hinder Russia. It's almost as though the ruling Conservative Party are pretty much entirely bankrolled by businessmen with strong links to the Kremlin. Sounds like somebody’s completely unaware of the efforts surrounding the pronunciation of Kyiv.
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 5, 2022 18:28:56 GMT
The UK are doing fuck all to help Ukraine and doing fuck all to hinder Russia. It's almost as though the ruling Conservative Party are pretty much entirely bankrolled by businessmen with strong links to the Kremlin. Sounds like somebody’s completely unaware of the efforts surrounding the pronunciation of Kyiv. I'm having chicken Kyiv for tea. Doing my bit.
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Mar 5, 2022 18:29:47 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on Mar 5, 2022 18:29:47 GMT
UK and US nationals in Russia told to leave.
Time to prep your disaster kits
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Post by Neshead on Mar 5, 2022 19:14:34 GMT
UK and US nationals in Russia told to leave. Time to prep your disaster kits I say we boycott Ladas.
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 5, 2022 19:29:15 GMT
UK and US nationals in Russia told to leave. Time to prep your disaster kits I say we boycott Ladas. Skodalodarity, brother.
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 5, 2022 21:03:48 GMT
The UK are doing fuck all to help Ukraine and doing fuck all to hinder Russia. It's almost as though the ruling Conservative Party are pretty much entirely bankrolled by businessmen with strong links to the Kremlin. Sounds like somebody’s completely unaware of the efforts surrounding the pronunciation of Kyiv. Kyiv is Ukrainian, Kiev is Russian, so I can see why the Ukrainians want us to say it in Ukrainian and not Russian tbf.
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Post by Hobhead on Mar 5, 2022 21:13:12 GMT
Sounds like somebody’s completely unaware of the efforts surrounding the pronunciation of Kyiv. Kyiv is Ukrainian, Kiev is Russian, so I can see why the Ukrainians want us to say it in Ukrainian and not Russian tbf. I understand that. The Ukrainians have been pushing for the pronunciation change for a while. Nothing has changed in that regard due to the invasion.
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Mar 5, 2022 22:36:16 GMT
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Mar 5, 2022 22:36:16 GMT
The UK are doing fuck all to help Ukraine and doing fuck all to hinder Russia. It's almost as though the ruling Conservative Party are pretty much entirely bankrolled by businessmen with strong links to the Kremlin. “Strong links” lol
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Mar 5, 2022 22:46:22 GMT
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Mar 5, 2022 22:46:22 GMT
Did we ever find out where arron banks got the money for that brexit campaign.
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Mar 6, 2022 10:20:37 GMT
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 6, 2022 10:20:37 GMT
Did we ever find out where arron banks got the money for that brexit campaign. No, and if you ask him about it you get a libel letter from Carter-Fuck solicitors in response. Same if you ask questions about his wife's history. It's a mystery why we're not doing more against the Russians.
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Mar 6, 2022 12:06:54 GMT
Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Mar 6, 2022 12:06:54 GMT
The UK are doing fuck all to help Ukraine and doing fuck all to hinder Russia. It's almost as though the ruling Conservative Party are pretty much entirely bankrolled by businessmen with strong links to the Kremlin. Apart from supplying arms and money to Ukraine, banning Russian media, trade sanctions and applying punitive measures to Russian nationals (and cats). Not sure what more can be done without escalating to a direct war with Russia and potential nuclear armegeddon.
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Mar 6, 2022 12:37:13 GMT
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Post by Neshead on Mar 6, 2022 12:37:13 GMT
Kyiv is Ukrainian, Kiev is Russian, so I can see why the Ukrainians want us to say it in Ukrainian and not Russian tbf. I understand that. The Ukrainians have been pushing for the pronunciation change for a while. Nothing has changed in that regard due to the invasion. One of those things that bemuse me on twatter. Amongst posts of burning tanks and decapited bodies, Karen from delaware is upset because we ain't pronouncing Kiev as Kyiv. First World problems eh?
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 6, 2022 13:03:26 GMT
The UK are doing fuck all to help Ukraine and doing fuck all to hinder Russia. It's almost as though the ruling Conservative Party are pretty much entirely bankrolled by businessmen with strong links to the Kremlin. Apart from supplying arms and money to Ukraine, banning Russian media, trade sanctions and applying punitive measures to Russian nationals (and cats). Not sure what more can be done without escalating to a direct war with Russia and potential nuclear armegeddon. Sanctions against 16 people who hid their money a decade ago. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. We could try proper sanctions, start seizing property like the Germans and French have, but no. The London legal, financial and oroperty markets are entirely inflated with dirty Kremlin money, so we won't do that. What would the partners at Carter-Fuck say? The French, Germans and US are doing it properly. The UK? Nah. The London-on-Don Laundromat is open for business.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Mar 6, 2022 15:05:44 GMT
Remember when Boris Johnson put the oligarch son of a former kgb officer in the House of Lords for life? Boris is such a laugh! Hahahaha.
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Mar 6, 2022 17:32:26 GMT
Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Mar 6, 2022 17:32:26 GMT
Apart from supplying arms and money to Ukraine, banning Russian media, trade sanctions and applying punitive measures to Russian nationals (and cats). Not sure what more can be done without escalating to a direct war with Russia and potential nuclear armegeddon. Sanctions against 16 people who hid their money a decade ago. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. We could try proper sanctions, start seizing property like the Germans and French have, but no. The London legal, financial and oroperty markets are entirely inflated with dirty Kremlin money, so we won't do that. What would the partners at Carter-Fuck say? The French, Germans and US are doing it properly. The UK? Nah. The London-on-Don Laundromat is open for business. Where was all the faux outrage when Putin 'intervened' in Syria, Georgia etc? We were fawning over him because we either had a common enemy or the target country wasn't important enough to give a fuck about. The bleeding hearts media didn't care about the humanitarian consequences then. You know as well as i do the Ukraine situation is complex than the simplistic 'goodies vs baddies' narrative pushed by our media. The only difference is Putin's attack/ intervention in Ukraine is a direct challenge to American hegemony and influence. I'm not sure petty tit for tat sanctions and anti-Russian jingoism will achieve anything other than cause more division. And didn't Germany veto/ block Ukraine joining the EU and Nato because of it's reliance on Russian gas? I don't know how much influence rich Russians have over UK politicians or financial sector but i suspect they aren't the only source of so called 'dirty money'
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Mar 6, 2022 17:58:58 GMT
Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Mar 6, 2022 17:58:58 GMT
Lets deploy volunteers with improvised weapons and no combat experience against mechanised professional army battalions...
...what could possibly go wrong?
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Mar 6, 2022 19:55:31 GMT
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 6, 2022 19:55:31 GMT
Sanctions against 16 people who hid their money a decade ago. Whoop-de-fucking-doo. We could try proper sanctions, start seizing property like the Germans and French have, but no. The London legal, financial and oroperty markets are entirely inflated with dirty Kremlin money, so we won't do that. What would the partners at Carter-Fuck say? The French, Germans and US are doing it properly. The UK? Nah. The London-on-Don Laundromat is open for business. Where was all the faux outrage when Putin 'intervened' in Syria, Georgia etc? We were fawning over him because we either had a common enemy or the target country wasn't important enough to give a fuck about. The bleeding hearts media didn't care about the humanitarian consequences then. You know as well as i do the Ukraine situation is complex than the simplistic 'goodies vs baddies' narrative pushed by our media. The only difference is Putin's attack/ intervention in Ukraine is a direct challenge to American hegemony and influence. I'm not sure petty tit for tat sanctions and anti-Russian jingoism will achieve anything other than cause more division. And didn't Germany veto/ block Ukraine joining the EU and Nato because of it's reliance on Russian gas? I don't know how much influence rich Russians have over UK politicians or financial sector but i suspect they aren't the only source of so called 'dirty money' I think we should have done all of this and more ten years ago, especially after Crimea/Donbas/murdering 300 people on an airliner. But Russian money is useful so the Tories weren't interested and the Germans need Russian gas. Obama was deluded enough to think he could make Putin change and as for the orange baboon succeeding him, well. It's more than the Tories in the UK though. Russian oligarchs use the High Court as weapons, both against each other and as libel tourists against awkward journalists. They hide their money in UK property. The fees they generate are astronomical. Carter-Fuck libel letters don't come cheap; great for the lawyers *and* great for the rich who can SLAPP to their heart's content. Look at Arron Banks v Carole Cadwalladr. Of course nobody in power was going to derail the gravy train. And no, it's not just Russians; all kleptocrats use the London Laundromat, great service at a great fee and you cash is laundered whiter than white. And there are serious questions about how Russia is using its influence too. How did Arron Banks get his money, what's the deal with his wife, and just *what* was Dominic Cummings doing in Moscow for all those years. How did Assange get all that gossip on Clinton but curiously not anything on Trump. And of course Corbyn and plenty of his gang were long-standing admirers of the USSR, with links eastwards, and the Stop the War Coalition seem curiously more interested in criticising NATO and "imperalism" and not the Ukrainian war victims. I wonder why. We know Vladislav Surkov, Putin's propaganda chief, funds the opposition in Russia to destabilise any opponents of Putin. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/12/bbcs_adam_curtis_how_propaganda_turned_russian_politics_into_a_circus.htmlI don't think a lot of things are as easy as goodies vs baddies, but sometimes you get a leader who *is* just evil. There was no nuance with Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Augusto Pinochet. They were just evil. Of course the West didn't always act against evil, or in the case of Pinochet actually helped him, but that doesn't stop him being evil.
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Mar 6, 2022 20:15:45 GMT
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Post by tetchyarse on Mar 6, 2022 20:15:45 GMT
Lets deploy volunteers with improvised weapons and no combat experience against mechanised professional army battalions... ...what could possibly go wrong? Given Putin is deliberately shelling apartment blocks and refugee convoys, and has previously been psychopathic enough to murder 300 people on an airliner, I'd say teaching people to fight back is a good idea. Just a hunch, but I'd not trust Russia not to do a Srebrenica.
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