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Post by hobbes on May 26, 2021 12:57:31 GMT
The painting of the old building in the corner is pretty symbolic I reckon. The fact that corner had been left to deteriorate with no thought for maintenance or cosmetic improvement symbolises Junior's entire tenure - just get behind the moss and algae covered set of scruffy steps and smoking shelter and a random fucking garden shed for fucks sake. #jgbtmaacsossassaarfgsffs The club can borrow my Karcher to clean the steps next if they want. The addition of those photos in the players entrance is the same. Really fucking piss easy and obvious things that should have been done years ago. Sparks is right about the McCall Hendrie suites too. Last game I went to was that Plymouth one, went in there and it was like a fucking travelodge function room, zero character or effort expended on it. Why on earth did we expect any professionalism or attention to detail in the playing side of things when it was there in front of us how little of that approach was applied to the stadium? This shit won't win games but it sets the tone, starts things off on the right foot. We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. Totally. Another thing is we've had a decent programme for years, at least in its design and layout. Why can't we use people who design and print that to do some big pictures for the corporate areas and the concourses? Why do we have to settle for fucking grey breezeblock? Get some murals done as well. And not by fucking schoolkids either. The main stand especially is fucking grim, cavernous and soulless. Get some big city flags made and hang them on the walls, warm the place up a bit. The majority of the season is during grim weather so making the concourses more homely along with improving the food and drink would massively improve the match experience. I bet some sort of heater blower wouldn't even be that expensive to take the edge off the cold in winter. The toilets in the stand are still the ones from 1986 ffs. Use some of the space available and get some decent ones in there.
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Post by Neshead on May 26, 2021 13:30:10 GMT
We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. Totally. Another thing is we've had a decent programme for years, at least in its design and layout. Why can't we use people who design and print that to do some big pictures for the corporate areas and the concourses? Why do we have to settle for fucking grey breezeblock? Get some murals done as well. And not by fucking schoolkids either. The main stand especially is fucking grim, cavernous and soulless. Get some big city flags made and hang them on the walls, warm the place up a bit. The majority of the season is during grim weather so making the concourses more homely along with improving the food and drink would massively improve the match experience. I bet some sort of heater blower wouldn't even be that expensive to take the edge off the cold in winter. The toilets in the stand are still the ones from 1986 ffs. Use some of the space available and get some decent ones in there. The waste of the space behind the main stand is appalling. Theres enough space for a mezzanine first floor, I only get to see this in fa Cup games and it's embarrassing how badly laid out it is in there.
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Post by Dick on May 26, 2021 13:41:58 GMT
The painting of the old building in the corner is pretty symbolic I reckon. The fact that corner had been left to deteriorate with no thought for maintenance or cosmetic improvement symbolises Junior's entire tenure - just get behind the moss and algae covered set of scruffy steps and smoking shelter and a random fucking garden shed for fucks sake. #jgbtmaacsossassaarfgsffs The club can borrow my Karcher to clean the steps next if they want. The addition of those photos in the players entrance is the same. Really fucking piss easy and obvious things that should have been done years ago. Sparks is right about the McCall Hendrie suites too. Last game I went to was that Plymouth one, went in there and it was like a fucking travelodge function room, zero character or effort expended on it. Why on earth did we expect any professionalism or attention to detail in the playing side of things when it was there in front of us how little of that approach was applied to the stadium? This shit won't win games but it sets the tone, starts things off on the right foot. We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. How olds the Bradford end, 1989? The other stands were built in 96, 99 and 01 but feel like about 15-20 years older than the are in places. It's not a decrepit ground in that sense, and while people talk about charm and character, ours was becoming anything but that - it feels scummy, no pride in it and not looked after. And yes, it's 2021. It's the whole fucking package, not just the football. Online, offline, matchday, non matchday, the ground, around town etc. I mentioned on the other thread I worked in the public sector, but my background is brand and identity. Basically your brand is your reputation - not the colour of your logo or the font you use (which is identity) - your reputation amongst your customers, staff, suppliers and stakeholders amongst others, that's your brand is. If I say, Npower or Northern Rail - you instantly think crap, unreliable service, as that is the reputation they've become known for. I'd love to do a warts and all un-objective assessment of the Bradford City brand. Take away the sorts who will unconditionally do or buy anything from the club, and I wonder what they actual feeling is on all areas from hardcore fans, casuals, staff, players, sponsors, the general Bradford public.... even away fans. How are we going to attract the next generation of fans? The standard of football is poor, so not there. People taking their kids? Maybe - but there are so many other options for things to do or clubs to follow its a hard sell. At least try to ensure you're doing everything else to get your brand right, even if your final product is poor.
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Post by mikehunt on May 26, 2021 17:12:05 GMT
We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. How olds the Bradford end, 1989? The other stands were built in 96, 99 and 01 but feel like about 15-20 years older than the are in places. It's not a decrepit ground in that sense, and while people talk about charm and character, ours was becoming anything but that - it feels scummy, no pride in it and not looked after. And yes, it's 2021. It's the whole fucking package, not just the football. Online, offline, matchday, non matchday, the ground, around town etc. I mentioned on the other thread I worked in the public sector, but my background is brand and identity. Basically your brand is your reputation - not the colour of your logo or the font you use (which is identity) - your reputation amongst your customers, staff, suppliers and stakeholders amongst others, that's your brand is. If I say, Npower or Northern Rail - you instantly think crap, unreliable service, as that is the reputation they've become known for. I'd love to do a warts and all un-objective assessment of the Bradford City brand. Take away the sorts who will unconditionally do or buy anything from the club, and I wonder what they actual feeling is on all areas from hardcore fans, casuals, staff, players, sponsors, the general Bradford public.... even away fans. How are we going to attract the next generation of fans? The standard of football is poor, so not there. People taking their kids? Maybe - but there are so many other options for things to do or clubs to follow its a hard sell. At least try to ensure you're doing everything else to get your brand right, even if your final product is poor. Built in 1991 I think the Bradford End. Another embarrassment. Offer the club your branding skills. I suspect they got the building paid for by Petherbridge Bassra in exchange for a load of signs. You’ll get something out of it.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on May 26, 2021 18:03:08 GMT
The painting of the old building in the corner is pretty symbolic I reckon. The fact that corner had been left to deteriorate with no thought for maintenance or cosmetic improvement symbolises Junior's entire tenure - just get behind the moss and algae covered set of scruffy steps and smoking shelter and a random fucking garden shed for fucks sake. #jgbtmaacsossassaarfgsffs The club can borrow my Karcher to clean the steps next if they want. The addition of those photos in the players entrance is the same. Really fucking piss easy and obvious things that should have been done years ago. Sparks is right about the McCall Hendrie suites too. Last game I went to was that Plymouth one, went in there and it was like a fucking travelodge function room, zero character or effort expended on it. Why on earth did we expect any professionalism or attention to detail in the playing side of things when it was there in front of us how little of that approach was applied to the stadium? This shit won't win games but it sets the tone, starts things off on the right foot. We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. Even when you visit small grounds like Rochdale or Salford, the places seem to have an air of professionalism which we’ve been lacking since the at least the mid 2000s. Small but tidy and well maintained grounds. I’d go as far as to say many non league clubs put us to shame. Even Avenue looks half decent in terms of cleanliness and professional looking colour scheme. Their pie and chips is also decent, much better than our overpriced shite.
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Post by Neshead on May 26, 2021 18:54:48 GMT
We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. Even when you visit small grounds like Rochdale or Salford, the places seem to have an air of professionalism which we’ve been lacking since the at least the mid 2000s. Small but tidy and well maintained grounds. I’d go as far as to say many non league clubs put us to shame. Even Avenue looks half decent in terms of cleanliness and professional looking colour scheme. Their pie and chips is also decent, much better than our overpriced shite. Daft stuff like how the stewards are dressed. I don't think I've seen such a piss poor ragtag bunch than our lot, half of them look like they've dressed in the charity shop reject bin. It will take time but I think Sparksy understands how an air of professionalism makes everyone up their game.
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Post by tetchyarse on May 26, 2021 20:59:31 GMT
Rahic replaced a load of seats down that end of the main stand a few years ago, except he bought cheap shite from China and they're designed for hobbits. Last time I was down there I could barely fit in the bloody seat. So if SparksY wants to redo Block B, I'm all ears.
It's depressing that the basic level of professionalism SparksY is bringing in is new to the club. Glad he's doing it though. As others have said, get some big murals on the walls in the concourses, it's easy enough, it looks good. VP is home, let's take some pride in it.
I was at the Emirates Stadium not long before lockdown, everything was bright and Arsenal branded. Now we don't have their budget, but wall art and painted walls don't cost the earth. Better than grey breeze blocks.
And get some hot water in the bogs.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on May 26, 2021 23:01:24 GMT
We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. How olds the Bradford end, 1989? The other stands were built in 96, 99 and 01 but feel like about 15-20 years older than the are in places. It's not a decrepit ground in that sense, and while people talk about charm and character, ours was becoming anything but that - it feels scummy, no pride in it and not looked after. I always felt reaching the Premier League meant the ground's redevelopment was rushed in order to meet the new all seater regulations while preserving capacity. I might be wrong, but i once heard the original plans were to move the pitch a few meters further north. Presumably this would have meant construction of a new single tier all seater Kop (around 3000 capacity) and a matching stand at the Bradford end. It would also have been far easier to lengthen the main stand towards Burlington St rather than realigning Valley Parade. Following construction of the midland rd during the late 90s, VP became a nice tidy little ground... probably one of the best mid sized grounds in the country (not withstanding the Bradford End). At the time most clubs, even the big ones, were still playing in dilapidated old shit holes. Following promotion, I felt he new Kop and subsequent Main standard extension gave the ground an awkward lop sided feel. The back of the Kop in particular just looked like an ugly cliff of corrugated steel. It just felt rushed and built on the cheap, no attention to detail or architectural merit whatsoever. At least the midland Rd had a few football shaped round windows on it to add a bit of visual interest.. To me, i felt the ground just lost a bit of the magic and charm from that late 90s era after reaching the premier league.
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on May 27, 2021 7:05:17 GMT
We've been banging on about this very stuff for years yet apparently to some it wasn't important. It's professionalism and attention to detail off the field that shows just what your approach to on the field is like. No surprise the stadiums falling to bits when our strategy to on field matters was non existent. We've always joked a bout hit water in the toilets but fuck me stuff like that should be a given in the 21st century. Although I guess some of our fans would be happy to still have an outside shithole at home. Totally. Another thing is we've had a decent programme for years, at least in its design and layout. Why can't we use people who design and print that to do some big pictures for the corporate areas and the concourses? Why do we have to settle for fucking grey breezeblock? Get some murals done as well. And not by fucking schoolkids either. The main stand especially is fucking grim, cavernous and soulless. Get some big city flags made and hang them on the walls, warm the place up a bit. The majority of the season is during grim weather so making the concourses more homely along with improving the food and drink would massively improve the match experience. I bet some sort of heater blower wouldn't even be that expensive to take the edge off the cold in winter. The toilets in the stand are still the ones from 1986 ffs. Use some of the space available and get some decent ones in there. Couldn't agree more. I said a few years back we should do a similar thing to what Bournemouth have done in there's and stick massive "posters" in either end of their stands instead of just leaving them exposed. However the club shot it down and basically said they've done enough for now.
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Post by Dick on May 27, 2021 7:40:13 GMT
How olds the Bradford end, 1989? The other stands were built in 96, 99 and 01 but feel like about 15-20 years older than the are in places. It's not a decrepit ground in that sense, and while people talk about charm and character, ours was becoming anything but that - it feels scummy, no pride in it and not looked after. I always felt reaching the Premier League meant the ground's redevelopment was rushed in order to meet the new all seater regulations while preserving capacity. I might be wrong, but i once heard the original plans were to move the pitch a few meters further north. Presumably this would have meant construction of a new single tier all seater Kop (around 3000 capacity) and a matching stand at the Bradford end. It would also have been far easier to lengthen the main stand towards Burlington St rather than realigning Valley Parade. Following construction of the midland rd during the late 90s, VP became a nice tidy little ground... probably one of the best mid sized grounds in the country (not withstanding the Bradford End). At the time most clubs, even the big ones, were still playing in dilapidated old shit holes. Following promotion, I felt he new Kop and subsequent Main standard extension gave the ground an awkward lop sided feel. The back of the Kop in particular just looked like an ugly cliff of corrugated steel. It just felt rushed and built on the cheap, no attention to detail or architectural merit whatsoever. At least the midland Rd had a few football shaped round windows on it to add a bit of visual interest.. To me, i felt the ground just lost a bit of the magic and charm from that late 90s era after reaching the premier league. Agree on the visual interest. I started going in 96 when I was around 13. This era - Charm for me back then were things like the 'Bradford City' sign at the top of the Sunwin Stand - written in that 1920s-30s Art Deco style font. Things like that were a like a nod to Bradford's history and heritage, but done in an elegant manner. The whole ground was neat, mostly symmetrical and still retained unique features such as the windows you mentioned, or I remember the fencing that was still around in places. At the same time I was going to Odsal to watch the Bulls - kids tickets were so cheap and there were so many vouchers in the paper it was easy to do both - and VP felt like a palace compared to that place. Apart from being different in that it was a bowl in the ground it was grim all over. It looked and felt complete - at the moment it looks half finished but nothing we can do about that, probably ever. When VP was full then it felt like there twice as many people as there actually was and felt like the whole city was there.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on May 27, 2021 8:57:41 GMT
I always felt reaching the Premier League meant the ground's redevelopment was rushed in order to meet the new all seater regulations while preserving capacity. I might be wrong, but i once heard the original plans were to move the pitch a few meters further north. Presumably this would have meant construction of a new single tier all seater Kop (around 3000 capacity) and a matching stand at the Bradford end. It would also have been far easier to lengthen the main stand towards Burlington St rather than realigning Valley Parade. Following construction of the midland rd during the late 90s, VP became a nice tidy little ground... probably one of the best mid sized grounds in the country (not withstanding the Bradford End). At the time most clubs, even the big ones, were still playing in dilapidated old shit holes. Following promotion, I felt he new Kop and subsequent Main standard extension gave the ground an awkward lop sided feel. The back of the Kop in particular just looked like an ugly cliff of corrugated steel. It just felt rushed and built on the cheap, no attention to detail or architectural merit whatsoever. At least the midland Rd had a few football shaped round windows on it to add a bit of visual interest.. To me, i felt the ground just lost a bit of the magic and charm from that late 90s era after reaching the premier league. Agree on the visual interest. I started going in 96 when I was around 13. This era - Charm for me back then were things like the 'Bradford City' sign at the top of the Sunwin Stand - written in that 1920s-30s Art Deco style font. Things like that were a like a nod to Bradford's history and heritage, but done in an elegant manner. The whole ground was neat, mostly symmetrical and still retained unique features such as the windows you mentioned, or I remember the fencing that was still around in places. At the same time I was going to Odsal to watch the Bulls - kids tickets were so cheap and there were so many vouchers in the paper it was easy to do both - and VP felt like a palace compared to that place. Apart from being different in that it was a bowl in the ground it was grim all over. It looked and felt complete - at the moment it looks half finished but nothing we can do about that, probably ever. When VP was full then it felt like there twice as many people as there actually was and felt like the whole city was there. Yes i remember some electric atmospheres from that 96-99 era, notably the derbies with Huddersfield and beating QPR to stay up. Say what you like about GR, but the club just felt like a well oiled machine back in those days. The club shop was also excellent, a far cry from today. A month or two back i had gander round the current club shop. I tried to force myself to buy something. But i just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger, it was all overpriced cheap tat. Needless to say i left empty handed. Yet another area that Sparks needs to address...
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Post by Dick on May 27, 2021 10:13:14 GMT
Agree on the visual interest. I started going in 96 when I was around 13. This era - Charm for me back then were things like the 'Bradford City' sign at the top of the Sunwin Stand - written in that 1920s-30s Art Deco style font. Things like that were a like a nod to Bradford's history and heritage, but done in an elegant manner. The whole ground was neat, mostly symmetrical and still retained unique features such as the windows you mentioned, or I remember the fencing that was still around in places. At the same time I was going to Odsal to watch the Bulls - kids tickets were so cheap and there were so many vouchers in the paper it was easy to do both - and VP felt like a palace compared to that place. Apart from being different in that it was a bowl in the ground it was grim all over. It looked and felt complete - at the moment it looks half finished but nothing we can do about that, probably ever. When VP was full then it felt like there twice as many people as there actually was and felt like the whole city was there. Yes i remember some electric atmospheres from that 96-99 era, notably the derbies with Huddersfield and beating QPR to stay up. Say what you like about GR, but the club just felt like a well oiled machine back in those days. The club shop was also excellent, a far cry from today. A month or two back i had gander round the current club shop. I tried to force myself to buy something. But i just couldn't bring myself to pull the trigger, it was all overpriced cheap tat. Needless to say i left empty handed. Yet another area that Sparks needs to address... GR knew how to be a salesman in that sense - he understood how to market and sell to football fans. Not just tickets or merchandise, but actual vision and values. Not dreams of £1 tickets in the Premier League and bollocks of affordable football for all - we're a business, not a charity - but how to generate income and profit. Unfortunately he just went too far with the vision and aspiration - gambled on the ITV Digital money and we know the rest. But in that 1995-00 period he understood everything about the typical Bradford City fan, the general Bradford public and how to appeal to them. On the subject of the club shop, remember when we boasted the club shop was biggest in the world for a bit? Cringe at thinking of that again. Saying that, I think the 1903 Club idea is a good one - it's the kind of product at a price that appeals to fans (not too cheap, not too expensive), and encourages more add-on sales (such as other merch and the fourth shirt). In a lot of cases, you've gone from selling a £198 season ticket to a £233 one - then when you've accounted for some of the extra 1903 merch these people will very probably buy you're looking at fans who are spending £300+. If you anticipate they'll probably buy some normal merch as well - say a home or away shirt - you could easily get £400+ out of someone over a season, not just over the summer. Compare it to before - 1x season ticket and say they buy 1x shirt and you're looking at about £185 - probably paid for before the season as well.
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Post by hobbes on May 27, 2021 12:49:00 GMT
GR also had the balls to take on the council. The kop should never have got planning permission due to the impact on Rock Terrace (as a planner I look at it looming over the houses and cringe). The planning officers at the time planned to refuse the application but GR played a blinder by getting in the T&A saying that the Council wanted us to fail or leave the City. Ward councillors were then bombarded by fans and they shat themselves, and the councillors on planning committee overturned the decision and approved it.
Lawn wasn’t able to command that kind of power but he did at least call Kris Hopkins a cunt to his face allegedly.
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Post by tetchyarse on May 27, 2021 14:07:00 GMT
GR also had the balls to take on the council. The kop should never have got planning permission due to the impact on Rock Terrace (as a planner I look at it looming over the houses and cringe). The planning officers at the time planned to refuse the application but GR played a blinder by getting in the T&A saying that the Council wanted us to fail or leave the City. Ward councillors were then bombarded by fans and they shat themselves, and the councillors on planning committee overturned the decision and approved it. Lawn wasn’t able to command that kind of power but he did at least call Kris Hopkins a cunt to his face allegedly. But GR doing that as the cheap option, rather than buying up and bulldozing Rock Terrace, is partly why we are where we are now. If we'd moved the whole ground northwards then things would be much easier now. As it stands there's really very little we can do about the Bradford End and block A because there isn't the space, but at the same time we have a massive empty patch of land at the back of the Kop. Ah well. The grounds way too big for us at the minute anyway, so it doesn't really matter.
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Post by Neshead on May 27, 2021 14:33:42 GMT
GR also had the balls to take on the council. The kop should never have got planning permission due to the impact on Rock Terrace (as a planner I look at it looming over the houses and cringe). The planning officers at the time planned to refuse the application but GR played a blinder by getting in the T&A saying that the Council wanted us to fail or leave the City. Ward councillors were then bombarded by fans and they shat themselves, and the councillors on planning committee overturned the decision and approved it. Lawn wasn’t able to command that kind of power but he did at least call Kris Hopkins a cunt to his face allegedly. Didn't realise you were a planner Hobbesy I wish you'd said.
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Post by jdc on May 27, 2021 18:08:59 GMT
GR also had the balls to take on the council. The kop should never have got planning permission due to the impact on Rock Terrace (as a planner I look at it looming over the houses and cringe). The planning officers at the time planned to refuse the application but GR played a blinder by getting in the T&A saying that the Council wanted us to fail or leave the City. Ward councillors were then bombarded by fans and they shat themselves, and the councillors on planning committee overturned the decision and approved it. Lawn wasn’t able to command that kind of power but he did at least call Kris Hopkins a cunt to his face allegedly. Haha, I'd forgotten that Hopkins story. I reckon it's true, it was someone on the council who told me the tale.
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Post by hobbes on May 27, 2021 22:23:40 GMT
GR also had the balls to take on the council. The kop should never have got planning permission due to the impact on Rock Terrace (as a planner I look at it looming over the houses and cringe). The planning officers at the time planned to refuse the application but GR played a blinder by getting in the T&A saying that the Council wanted us to fail or leave the City. Ward councillors were then bombarded by fans and they shat themselves, and the councillors on planning committee overturned the decision and approved it. Lawn wasn’t able to command that kind of power but he did at least call Kris Hopkins a cunt to his face allegedly. Haha, I'd forgotten that Hopkins story. I reckon it's true, it was someone on the council who told me the tale. I heard from Junior so it seems legit in that case.
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Post by hobbes on May 27, 2021 22:24:07 GMT
GR also had the balls to take on the council. The kop should never have got planning permission due to the impact on Rock Terrace (as a planner I look at it looming over the houses and cringe). The planning officers at the time planned to refuse the application but GR played a blinder by getting in the T&A saying that the Council wanted us to fail or leave the City. Ward councillors were then bombarded by fans and they shat themselves, and the councillors on planning committee overturned the decision and approved it. Lawn wasn’t able to command that kind of power but he did at least call Kris Hopkins a cunt to his face allegedly. Didn't realise you were a planner Hobbesy I wish you'd said. Fuck off and wash your van m10
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Post by hobbes on May 27, 2021 22:25:15 GMT
GR also had the balls to take on the council. The kop should never have got planning permission due to the impact on Rock Terrace (as a planner I look at it looming over the houses and cringe). The planning officers at the time planned to refuse the application but GR played a blinder by getting in the T&A saying that the Council wanted us to fail or leave the City. Ward councillors were then bombarded by fans and they shat themselves, and the councillors on planning committee overturned the decision and approved it. Lawn wasn’t able to command that kind of power but he did at least call Kris Hopkins a cunt to his face allegedly. But GR doing that as the cheap option, rather than buying up and bulldozing Rock Terrace, is partly why we are where we are now. If we'd moved the whole ground northwards then things would be much easier now. As it stands there's really very little we can do about the Bradford End and block A because there isn't the space, but at the same time we have a massive empty patch of land at the back of the Kop. Ah well. The grounds way too big for us at the minute anyway, so it doesn't really matter. That’s a very good point tbh. The residents were prepared to move but GR wouldn’t meet the asking price.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Jun 7, 2021 17:24:29 GMT
Like the murals... gomp gomp gomp
Not sure painting the bar dark grey was necessary but hey ho i guess we shouldn't grumble too much.
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