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Post by edin on May 17, 2021 21:36:40 GMT
I’ve only heard that rumour from you, mate. Where did you get it from? Anyone reliable? I've heard it from 3 people now who have varying degrees of reliability. Nothing concrete just that they've heard pp was in the frame. was it Hob?
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Post by Neshead on May 17, 2021 21:49:29 GMT
If it’s Adams and he’s done the released list for us while under contract at Morecambe then he’s surely in the shit contractually. That is unless he’s negotiated a contract that makes him pretty much a free agent before it ends and whoever heard of one of those? Even if all that is the case then at the very least his reputation will take a bit of a hit in Morecambe and maybe beyond. If he is currently working for two clubs and he fails to get Morecambe up then he’ll inevitably have to answer questions as to whether or not running City’s transfers policy and contract renewals affected his preparation for the play offs and he’d have a hard time arguing it didn’t. It’s all a bit curious. This is what's giving me nagging doubts about if it's Adams. If he did to the retained list while employed by someone else Ryan has dropped him right in it. And us if they were to pursue a tapping up claim. This is why I'm thinking Parky announced coincidentally when the ST go on sale. If by some massive miracle it is Parky the meltdown from Ricc would be on an epic scale. Let's hope its Parky for the ensuing shuts and giggles then.
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Post by Hobhead on May 18, 2021 4:52:00 GMT
This is what's giving me nagging doubts about if it's Adams. If he did to the retained list while employed by someone else Ryan has dropped him right in it. And us if they were to pursue a tapping up claim. This is why I'm thinking Parky announced coincidentally when the ST go on sale. If by some massive miracle it is Parky the meltdown from Ricc would be on an epic scale. Let's hope its Parky for the ensuing shuts and giggles then. If it’s Parky I’ll be there with Ricc. Not in his league obviously but pretty pissed off. This club needs to change and Mr Dark Age would probably re-sign Hanson and having a distance kicking contest in training to see who plays centre back. God love him for what he did for the club but right now I can’t stomach his brand of kick, flick and repeat. Plus that really would constitute not changing direction and show Sparks for a man with all the invention of Capt Admin.
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Post by Neshead on May 18, 2021 4:55:34 GMT
If by some massive miracle it is Parky the meltdown from Ricc would be on an epic scale. Let's hope its Parky for the ensuing shuts and giggles then. If it’s Parky I’ll be there with Ricc. Not in his league obviously but pretty pissed off. This club needs to change and Mr Dark Age would probably re-sign Hanson and having a distance kicking contest in training to see who plays centre back. God love him for what he did for the club but right now I can’t stomach his brand of kick, flick and repeat. Plus that really would constitute not changing direction and show Sparks for a man with all the invention of Capt Admin. It won't be Parky m8. Unless he's taking a leaf out of MacAnthonys book and signing a manager on his success before. And besides, if it was Parky why not announce it now? The bloke is out of work isn't he? Its Adams nailed on.
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Post by Hobhead on May 18, 2021 6:03:12 GMT
If it’s Parky I’ll be there with Ricc. Not in his league obviously but pretty pissed off. This club needs to change and Mr Dark Age would probably re-sign Hanson and having a distance kicking contest in training to see who plays centre back. God love him for what he did for the club but right now I can’t stomach his brand of kick, flick and repeat. Plus that really would constitute not changing direction and show Sparks for a man with all the invention of Capt Admin. It won't be Parky m8. Unless he's taking a leaf out of MacAnthonys book and signing a manager on his success before. And besides, if it was Parky why not announce it now? The bloke is out of work isn't he? Its Adams nailed on. Dunno. It’s panic playing havoc with me thought processes is what it is. Promise me it’s not Parky, Nes. PROMISE ME!
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Post by Neshead on May 18, 2021 7:22:47 GMT
It won't be Parky m8. Unless he's taking a leaf out of MacAnthonys book and signing a manager on his success before. And besides, if it was Parky why not announce it now? The bloke is out of work isn't he? Its Adams nailed on. Dunno. It’s panic playing havoc with me thought processes is what it is. Promise me it’s not Parky, Nes. PROMISE ME! I can't see past Degsy Adams. It was the name I was first told before the club cleverly gave Wellens name to a guy they knew would talk.
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Post by garyrobson on May 18, 2021 7:29:44 GMT
Evans is the nasty, horrible cunt that we need to kick start this shithole club and give the necessary kick up the arse. Plus it’ll be the ultimate offence for a majority of our fucktard fan base.
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Post by Neshead on May 18, 2021 7:34:12 GMT
Evans is the nasty, horrible cunt that we need to kick start this shithole club and give the necessary kick up the arse. Plus it’ll be the ultimate offence for a majority of our fucktard fan base. It would be worth getting Evans just for the social media meltdown
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Post by bantam147 on May 18, 2021 9:07:47 GMT
No way would Adams have done the released list whilst he's got his club and the play offs to think about. Unless of course Ryan is talking shit yet again. Not only that, but surely not even we'd be stupid enough to allow a manager of a club who may well be in the same league as us next season, to make decisions about which players we retain UNLESS there's a contract already signed.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on May 18, 2021 9:54:56 GMT
I’ve only heard that rumour from you, mate. Where did you get it from? Anyone reliable? I've heard it from 3 people now who have varying degrees of reliability. Nothing concrete just that they've heard pp was in the frame. Maybe its just the club keeping its options open incase Adams doesn't materialise.
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Post by mikehunt on May 18, 2021 10:48:19 GMT
No way would Adams have done the released list whilst he's got his club and the play offs to think about. Unless of course Ryan is talking shit yet again. Not only that, but surely not even we'd be stupid enough to allow a manager of a club who may well be in the same league as us next season, to make decisions about which players we retain UNLESS there's a contract already signed. We were stupid enough to not let Port Vale have Guthrie last summer so I don’t share your optimism there m9
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Post by Hobhead on May 18, 2021 10:50:03 GMT
No way would Adams have done the released list whilst he's got his club and the play offs to think about. Unless of course Ryan is talking shit yet again. Not only that, but surely not even we'd be stupid enough to allow a manager of a club who may well be in the same league as us next season, to make decisions about which players we retain UNLESS there's a contract already signed. Can he sign a contract while under contract? Wouldn’t he need an unusual clause to cover that?
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Post by Dick on May 18, 2021 10:53:01 GMT
No way would Adams have done the released list whilst he's got his club and the play offs to think about. Unless of course Ryan is talking shit yet again. Not only that, but surely not even we'd be stupid enough to allow a manager of a club who may well be in the same league as us next season, to make decisions about which players we retain UNLESS there's a contract already signed. We've made a lot of stupid decisions over the years TBF, but always still seem to find new, creative, original ways to keep lowering the bar.
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Post by hobbes on May 18, 2021 11:08:17 GMT
It all begs the question, why go public with all this at all? Why ‘sack’ T&S and say “we’re not inviting applications”?
Some clubs haven’t done their retained lists yet, contracts run till end of June. Why the rush?
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on May 18, 2021 11:22:32 GMT
Not only that, but surely not even we'd be stupid enough to allow a manager of a club who may well be in the same league as us next season, to make decisions about which players we retain UNLESS there's a contract already signed. Can he sign a contract while under contract? Wouldn’t he need an unusual clause to cover that? Pre-contract agreement?
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Post by Hobhead on May 18, 2021 11:32:56 GMT
Can he sign a contract while under contract? Wouldn’t he need an unusual clause to cover that? Pre-contract agreement? He’s got a year left so it’s doubtful he could. Are managers contracts subject to the same rules as player ones and wouldn’t he need to be six months from the end of his contract if so? The only way I see this working is if we’ve asked Morecambe for permission to speak to him, agreed and paid compensation and he’s now actually out of contract but taking Morecambe to the conclusion of the play offs. It would still leave him open to accusations of not being fully focussed on Morecambe’s play off campaign and that could be problematic if they miss out.
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Post by bantam147 on May 18, 2021 11:50:24 GMT
Not only that, but surely not even we'd be stupid enough to allow a manager of a club who may well be in the same league as us next season, to make decisions about which players we retain UNLESS there's a contract already signed. Can he sign a contract while under contract? Wouldn’t he need an unusual clause to cover that? I don't know. If its like any other employment contract then he'll have a notice period and is free to sign a contract that takes effect at any point after his notice expires. My sense is, everyone's informed and its being kept quiet so Adams and Morecambe can focus entirely on the playoffs.
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Post by Neshead on May 18, 2021 12:03:30 GMT
Can he sign a contract while under contract? Wouldn’t he need an unusual clause to cover that? I don't know. If its like any other employment contract then he'll have a notice period and is free to sign a contract that takes effect at any point after his notice expires. My sense is, everyone's informed and its being kept quiet so Adams and Morecambe can focus entirely on the playoffs. That's the way I've seen it since it was clear Wellens wasn't going to be the choice.
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Post by benitocarbone on May 18, 2021 12:09:16 GMT
I’ve said elsewhere that he wouldn’t be my choice but there are positives to his appointment.
Whoever comes in though has to be given the best chance of success. This talk of expanding the backroom and keeping MT&CS on is all well and good but the manager has to be able to bring his own team in particular his assistant.
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Post by Lofty on May 18, 2021 21:40:22 GMT
It all begs the question, why go public with all this at all? Why ‘sack’ T&S and say “we’re not inviting applications”? Some clubs haven’t done their retained lists yet, contracts run till end of June. Why the rush? Cos we're amateurish cunts m8.
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