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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2020 9:19:49 GMT
Is it possible to do some fag packet maths and work out how similar the figures are for the amount we underspent on the cap and the drop in season ticket revenue is? Man maths is a speciality of mine, we’re about 3,800 down on last season, depends on the full price / children split but say that’s it’s 3:1 adults and children it’s probably close to £520k, some of that’s VAT though so say £450k or so in income. Which is very similar to what we’re under budget. Odd coincidence that.
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 3, 2020 11:45:03 GMT
Genuine question; Do we think that Rupp is fully briefed on the current of affairs and the risk/impact we're facing into? We know from history that he doesn't keep a close eye on the detail, or events within the club. He clearly has other business interests that take more of his focus.
So, are his briefings underplayed? Emphasis on how the cash-flow position has been normalized following Edin's splurge? 'results aren't great right now, but we'll be fine once injured players return'? That sort of thing? Does he have any idea of the very, very real risk of relegation as things stand and that if it happens, that's basically the club done and he's pissed his money?
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2020 11:53:38 GMT
Genuine question; Do we think that Rupp is fully briefed on the current of affairs and the risk/impact we're facing into? We know from history that he doesn't keep a close eye on the detail, or events within the club. He clearly has other business interests that take more of his focus. So, are his briefings underplayed? Emphasis on how the cash-flow position has been normalized following Edin's splurge? 'results aren't great right now, but we'll be fine once injured players return'? That sort of thing? Does he have any idea of the very, very real risk of relegation as things stand and that if it happens, that's basically the club done and he's pissed his money? He doesn’t really care.
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 3, 2020 12:03:00 GMT
Genuine question; Do we think that Rupp is fully briefed on the current of affairs and the risk/impact we're facing into? We know from history that he doesn't keep a close eye on the detail, or events within the club. He clearly has other business interests that take more of his focus. So, are his briefings underplayed? Emphasis on how the cash-flow position has been normalized following Edin's splurge? 'results aren't great right now, but we'll be fine once injured players return'? That sort of thing? Does he have any idea of the very, very real risk of relegation as things stand and that if it happens, that's basically the club done and he's pissed his money? He doesn’t really care. He'll care about his £6m, surely?
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Post by Neshead on Dec 3, 2020 12:45:04 GMT
Genuine question; Do we think that Rupp is fully briefed on the current of affairs and the risk/impact we're facing into? We know from history that he doesn't keep a close eye on the detail, or events within the club. He clearly has other business interests that take more of his focus. So, are his briefings underplayed? Emphasis on how the cash-flow position has been normalized following Edin's splurge? 'results aren't great right now, but we'll be fine once injured players return'? That sort of thing? Does he have any idea of the very, very real risk of relegation as things stand and that if it happens, that's basically the club done and he's pissed his money? It does have a feel to it that if you put the kettle on everything will be alright after a cup of tea if you listen to what comes out of the club. It feels exactly like the relegation season and that's what worries me, it sneaks up you as you deny the bleeding obvious that we are actually worse than the ones around us.
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Post by mikehunt on Dec 3, 2020 12:52:08 GMT
He'll care about his £6m, surely? Wealthy people usually come out on top, it’s the rest of us poor sods who wind up paying, I can’t imagine Phillip Green is crying too much over losing Arcadia.
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2020 13:12:58 GMT
He'll care about his £6m, surely? If he cared he’d have got more involved with the day to day running of the show and not left everything to the guy he bought it from. If he cared he’d be looking to the future and putting in some decent foundations to maximise his chances of a return on his investment. If he cared he’d have employed someone more capable than Julian when Edin left. If he cared he’d have got involved with, and expedited, the replacement CEO search. If he cared he’d have vetoed Ryan’s promotion. If he cared the league position would have stirred him into action by now. If he cared his own speech about making right and getting the club back to where it was before he shit all over it would be a burning embarrassment to him right now. He doesn’t give a sugar-coated shit and the longer he owns the club, the less we’ll feature in his thoughts. He’ll have other business interests; ones he chose and the more time that passes following his initial investment the less it’ll hurt for him to write it off. If we go down, and subsequently bust, I doubt he’d give a solitary fuck. So he can hang on hoping for a bid that suits him and if it doesn’t come, so what? Meantime a city loses its football club.
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 3, 2020 13:23:50 GMT
He'll care about his £6m, surely? If he cared he’d have got more involved with the day to day running of the show and not left everything to the guy he bought it from. If he cared he’d be looking to the future and putting in some decent foundations to maximise his chances of a return on his investment. If he cared he’d have employed someone more capable than Julian when Edin left. If he cared he’d have got involved with, and expedited, the replacement CEO search. If he cared he’d have vetoed Ryan’s promotion. If he cared the league position would have stirred him into action by now. If he cared his own speech about making right and getting the club back to where it was before he shit all over it would be a burning embarrassment to him right now. He doesn’t give a sugar-coated shit and the longer he owns the club, the less we’ll feature in his thoughts. He’ll have other business interests; ones he chose and the more time that passes following his initial investment the less it’ll hurt for him to write it off. If we go down, and subsequently bust, I doubt he’d give a solitary fuck. So he can hang on hoping for a bid that suits him and if it doesn’t come, so what? Meantime a city loses its football club. Well when you put it like that...
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Post by Dick on Dec 3, 2020 13:34:53 GMT
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2020 13:48:47 GMT
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Post by Neshead on Dec 3, 2020 14:35:52 GMT
Good grief. We really were taken for fools.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Dec 3, 2020 16:52:07 GMT
Good grief. We really were taken for fools. We weren't, the sheeple were
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2020 16:54:06 GMT
I’d like to see what this ‘putting in place a structure’ amounted to.
All this club has done for years is tell the dopes that buy the tickets what they want to hear, pocket the cash and wander off sniggering.
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Post by mikehunt on Dec 4, 2020 12:42:01 GMT
Southampton were last in league one a decade ago, according to the BBC they haven’t had a manager last 130 games in 30 years. They fired Adkin after they got promoted and have had seven managers since Adkins went in January 2013. They’re sixth four points of the top. According to some though we need stability.
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Post by Dick on Dec 4, 2020 13:18:36 GMT
'Deficit' 'We go again' 'Get behind the lads' 'Young and hungry' 'Happy to have a club' 'We beat Chelsea
'Stability' - The Bradford City word of 2021
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 4, 2020 16:42:25 GMT
Stability in and of itself isn’t automatically a good thing. We could have stuck with Bowyer or Hopkin and called it stability.
It’s funny how the usual mouthpieces we’re pushing it as a laudable strategy right before we inexplicably gave McCall a new deal.
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Post by moshi on Dec 5, 2020 3:15:38 GMT
Southampton were last in league one a decade ago, according to the BBC they haven’t had a manager last 130 games in 30 years. They fired Adkin after they got promoted and have had seven managers since Adkins went in January 2013. They’re sixth four points of the top. According to some though we need stability. To be fair a top tier academy wouldn’t go a miss either, with a conveyor belt of future PL talent sold for millions. But yea naw your right it’s because they change managers like we do.
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 5, 2020 19:42:10 GMT
Leaving aside our actual form this is the most worrying stat:
Without drastic changes were fucked because that number of chances would require the most ruthless strike force in the country. We’ve got Donaldson and Samuels.
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Post by Neshead on Dec 5, 2020 19:45:46 GMT
Leaving aside our actual form this is the most worrying stat: Without drastic changes were fucked because that number of chances would require the most ruthless strike force in the country. We’ve got Donaldson and Samuels. I try to think back throughout my time watching football and i can't remember a team, either city or opposition, that are as bad as what i'm currently witnessing. And thats over 40 years. An our manager thinks we don't need a new centre back. Fuck my life.
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Post by Hoochy on Dec 5, 2020 19:58:24 GMT
Leaving aside our actual form this is the most worrying stat: Without drastic changes were fucked because that number of chances would require the most ruthless strike force in the country. We’ve got Donaldson and Samuels. If this form continues, by the time it gets to January we're going to need some playoff level form to keep us up which means playoff level players. If you're not getting a game at your current club and we're your best option then that's not going to be a good enough standard. I think we're screwed. Zeli and Staunton are out for a good while so they can't help. Cooke, Clarke and Novak improve on what we have on the pitch but not enough.
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