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Post by Dick on Nov 30, 2020 17:47:15 GMT
Someone put highlights of the whole 96-97 season on YouTube, was watching a lot of that recently.
We were shit, yes - but I remember that team had some heart and desire at least, and combined with some superb quality that came in for the short term and did a great job; Schwarzer, Waddle, and even signings like Steiner, Sundgot and Edinho but weren't great but brought something at least.
I know we don't have the funds or rules anymore to let us sign 40+ players and we were 2 divisions higher, but with this lot I feel we're starting to develop the mindset of 2018 - where we were beaten before we even started.
8 games in December may be too much for us I feel. I can't see where any quality or form is going to come from.
We took a ridiculous gamble with a small squad and stubborn manager and we're paying for it.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Dec 27, 2020 10:33:39 GMT
Ched Evans?
Zach Clough?
Billy Bodin?
Ryan Colclough? Playing non league after being sacked by scunny
Sam Mantom? technically a free agent but playing for southern premier league team to keep fit.
David Wheater? Been told to leave Oldham
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Post by benitocarbone on Dec 27, 2020 15:02:16 GMT
Any forward players signed need to be quicker than what we’ve got.
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Post by Neshead on Dec 27, 2020 18:11:57 GMT
Ched Evans? Zach Clough? Billy Bodin? Ryan Colclough? Playing non league after being sacked by scunny Sam Mantom? technically a free agent but playing for southern premier league team to keep fit. David Wheater? Been told to leave Oldham Behave, we ain't getting any of those.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Dec 27, 2020 18:53:40 GMT
Ched Evans? Zach Clough? Billy Bodin? Ryan Colclough? Playing non league after being sacked by scunny Sam Mantom? technically a free agent but playing for southern premier league team to keep fit. David Wheater? Been told to leave Oldham Behave, we ain't getting any of those. Can't help being ambitious....
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Post by tetchyarse on Dec 27, 2020 19:04:32 GMT
Rapey Ched can't get a game at Fleetwood because of bad discipline. Even looking at our forward line I'd steer well clear of that twat.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Dec 27, 2020 19:14:14 GMT
Rapey Ched can't get a game at Fleetwood because of bad discipline. Even looking at our forward line I'd steer well clear of that twat. He would bang them in at this level, and he didn't rape anyone. Might have poor morals but so did Beagrie and a hundred other players we've signed.
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Post by Bacon on Dec 27, 2020 19:25:54 GMT
Behave, we ain't getting any of those. Can't help being ambitious.... Why the fuck would we want a cricket referee?
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Post by mikehunt on Dec 27, 2020 19:38:42 GMT
Rapey Ched can't get a game at Fleetwood because of bad discipline. Even looking at our forward line I'd steer well clear of that twat. He would bang them in at this level, and he didn't rape anyone. Might have poor morals but so did Beagrie and a hundred other players we've signed. Being fired by Barton for poor behaviour though, it’s like Rhodes disciplining someone for being parsimonious.
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Post by Bacon on Dec 27, 2020 19:42:15 GMT
He would bang them in at this level, and he didn't rape anyone. Might have poor morals but so did Beagrie and a hundred other players we've signed. Being fired by Barton for poor behaviour though, it’s like Rhodes disciplining someone for being parsimonious. Is that you John?
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Dec 27, 2020 19:55:01 GMT
He would bang them in at this level, and he didn't rape anyone. Might have poor morals but so did Beagrie and a hundred other players we've signed. Being fired by Barton for poor behaviour though, it’s like Rhodes disciplining someone for being parsimonious. If it was any other manager I'd believe them, something tells me it's a clash of personality and Evans has been doing his best to get out.
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Post by tetchyarse on Dec 27, 2020 20:04:16 GMT
Rapey Ched can't get a game at Fleetwood because of bad discipline. Even looking at our forward line I'd steer well clear of that twat. He would bang them in at this level, and he didn't rape anyone. Might have poor morals but so did Beagrie and a hundred other players we've signed. Even leaving his shagging of dubious consent out of it, he's got a massive attitude problem (ask Chesterfield) and a massive ego. But with only 14 goals in the last two seasons he's not good enough to justify the hassle. If he was doing the business on the pitch then he wouldn't be getting shoved out the door by Fleetwood. Players doing the job don't have "discipline issues". Peter Beagrie he isn't.
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Post by mikehunt on Dec 27, 2020 20:16:52 GMT
Being fired by Barton for poor behaviour though, it’s like Rhodes disciplining someone for being parsimonious. Is that you John? You’ll have an abusive or sarcastic DM from him for that
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Post by You can't beat a double dip on Dec 28, 2020 13:09:42 GMT
Ched Evans? Zach Clough? Billy Bodin? Ryan Colclough? Playing non league after being sacked by scunny Sam Mantom? technically a free agent but playing for southern premier league team to keep fit. David Wheater? Been told to leave Oldham Was thinking Zach Clough the other day. Must be desperate to get his career going again. Could be the perfect fit and would assume he’d work well with Novak
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Post by Nice boy on Dec 31, 2020 8:04:53 GMT
Sounds like we’re after a winger then albeit just the one. There’s little point in signing a lone wide man only to play DMH or an out of position attacking mid on the alternative flank. Strengthening in one area, weakening in another.
It’s 2 wingers or none at all for me.
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 31, 2020 9:02:57 GMT
Sounds like we’re after a winger then albeit just the one. There’s little point in signing a lone wide man only to play DMH or an out of position attacking mid on the alternative flank. Strengthening in one area, weakening in another. It’s 2 wingers or none at all for me. I’d expect is to have an eye on playing Evans down the right and signing a left sided player to go with him. Even then I’d still agree with you in that we need two because we’d be one injury away from being unable to use two players without the old square pegs routine.
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Post by Nice boy on Dec 31, 2020 9:40:25 GMT
Sounds like we’re after a winger then albeit just the one. There’s little point in signing a lone wide man only to play DMH or an out of position attacking mid on the alternative flank. Strengthening in one area, weakening in another. It’s 2 wingers or none at all for me. I’d expect is to have an eye on playing Evans down the right and signing a left sided player to go with him. Even then I’d still agree with you in that we need two because we’d be one injury away from being unable to use two players without the old square pegs routine. That's what I was thinking too. Pritchard or Evans as makeshift wingers with a specialist wideman on the other side. Gareth Evans though- what a fucking signing. Not a winger, not a Right Back, not a striker. Might possibly be a number 10 but we already have Cooke, Clarke and Pritchard to occupy that role. Doesn't fill out any of the blanks in the squad and looks shot to pieces regardless. The type of signing we need to avoid in January.
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 31, 2020 11:13:59 GMT
I’d expect is to have an eye on playing Evans down the right and signing a left sided player to go with him. Even then I’d still agree with you in that we need two because we’d be one injury away from being unable to use two players without the old square pegs routine. That's what I was thinking too. Pritchard or Evans as makeshift wingers with a specialist wideman on the other side. Gareth Evans though- what a fucking signing. Not a winger, not a Right Back, not a striker. Might possibly be a number 10 but we already have Cooke, Clarke and Pritchard to occupy that role. Doesn't fill out any of the blanks in the squad and looks shot to pieces regardless. The type of signing we need to avoid in January. Evans epitomises our transfer policy, at least to date. No specific position, no specific question that he answers in terms of making the team better - he's just a versatile player, available for free, with a decent pedigree.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Dec 31, 2020 12:50:22 GMT
I’d expect is to have an eye on playing Evans down the right and signing a left sided player to go with him. Even then I’d still agree with you in that we need two because we’d be one injury away from being unable to use two players without the old square pegs routine. That's what I was thinking too. Pritchard or Evans as makeshift wingers with a specialist wideman on the other side. Gareth Evans though- what a fucking signing. Not a winger, not a Right Back, not a striker. Might possibly be a number 10 but we already have Cooke, Clarke and Pritchard to occupy that role. Doesn't fill out any of the blanks in the squad and looks shot to pieces regardless. The type of signing we need to avoid in January. Pritchard should be struggling to get on the bench. He puts a lot of effort in and he's occasionally ok but largely not good enough. Evans still has done nothing in a city shirt, Clarke has now had 4 good halves of football and the rest anonymous. Watt for me is struggling, we need minimum a winger for each side and a centre mid alongside Sutton. Add that to a striker and a CB too.
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Post by Dick on Dec 31, 2020 13:03:45 GMT
That's what I was thinking too. Pritchard or Evans as makeshift wingers with a specialist wideman on the other side. Gareth Evans though- what a fucking signing. Not a winger, not a Right Back, not a striker. Might possibly be a number 10 but we already have Cooke, Clarke and Pritchard to occupy that role. Doesn't fill out any of the blanks in the squad and looks shot to pieces regardless. The type of signing we need to avoid in January. Evans epitomises our transfer policy, at least to date. No specific position, no specific question that he answers in terms of making the team better - he's just a versatile player, available for free, with a decent pedigree. Lee Bullock did a reasonable job for us at that stage of his career when he came in as a utility man - is that the sort of role we thought Evans might take up? But the Evans signing doesn't fit in anywhere logically, and just reinforced the fact that scouting and signings were limited mostly to people McCall had previously worked with and was signed out of desperation to get a body in the building.
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