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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Nov 1, 2020 12:06:43 GMT
2002-2003: Nicky Law
2003-2004: Bryan Robson
2004-2007: Colin Todd
2007: David Wetherall (Caretaker)
2007-2010: Stuart McCall
2010-2011: Peter Taylor
2011: Peter Jackson
2011-2016: Phil Parkinson
2016-2018: Stuart McCall (He told the New owners to set him on)
2019-2020: Gary Bowyer
2020-present: Stuart McCall
Depressive
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Post by Dick on Nov 1, 2020 12:13:13 GMT
Jurassic Park of managers or managerial selection processes - even with PPs success it was still dinosaur football.
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Post by Hobhead on Nov 1, 2020 12:37:14 GMT
That list would looks a lot healthier with Hopkin’s name on it.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Nov 1, 2020 12:47:02 GMT
That list would looks a lot healthier with Hopkin’s name on it. He was Edin's though wasn't he?
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Post by Neshead on Nov 1, 2020 12:51:05 GMT
2002-2003: Nicky Law 2003-2004: Bryan Robson 2004-2007: Colin Todd 2007: David Wetherall (Caretaker) 2007-2010: Stuart McCall 2010-2011: Peter Taylor 2011: Peter Jackson 2011-2016: Phil Parkinson 2016-2018: Stuart McCall (He told the New owners to set him on) 2019-2020: Gary Bowyer 2020-present: Stuart McCall Depressive 1 out of 11 ain't bad not according to Meatloaf.
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Post by Hobhead on Nov 1, 2020 12:56:22 GMT
That list would looks a lot healthier with Hopkin’s name on it. He was Edin's though wasn't he? Yeh. In the same way we never blood youngsters that go on to better things we never seem to be the start for an up and coming manager either. Probably because we approach manager recruitment in the same kack-handed way we do player recruitment.
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Post by Hoochy on Nov 1, 2020 12:59:39 GMT
He was Edin's though wasn't he? Yeh. In the same way we never blood youngsters that go on to better things we never seem to be the start for an up and coming manager either. Probably because we approach manager recruitment in the same kack-handed way we do player recruitment. We gave Mickey Love his big shot.
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Post by Dick on Nov 1, 2020 13:06:58 GMT
How far back do we want to go? Jefferies, then internal appointments - Hutchins, Jewell, Kamara; while there was success there, it still follows the same cheap model which in fairness had the rarity of actually working. Before that precedes my time as fan but I'm sure some of you lot could fill us in.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Nov 1, 2020 13:08:32 GMT
How far back do we want to go? Jefferies, then internal appointments - Hutchins, Jewell, Kamara; while there was success there, it still follows the same cheap model which in fairness had the rarity of actually working. Before that precedes my time as fan but I'm sure some of you lot could fill us in. It's specifically Rhodes tenure
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Post by Dick on Nov 1, 2020 13:11:08 GMT
How far back do we want to go? Jefferies, then internal appointments - Hutchins, Jewell, Kamara; while there was success there, it still follows the same cheap model which in fairness had the rarity of actually working. Before that precedes my time as fan but I'm sure some of you lot could fill us in. It's specifically Rhodes tenure Tru dat - but its probably always been our model. Not like he did much to be different.
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Post by Hobhead on Nov 1, 2020 13:15:17 GMT
Jenkins will be a damn sight better at this shit.
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Post by Bradford Wild Boars. on Nov 1, 2020 13:45:47 GMT
Selling Dean Windass and JJ which basically sent us down. Replacing Windass with Eddie Fucking Johnson.
Getting on board with that Belgian club, bringing in Archie Christie, getting on board with Mark Ellis's academy. None of which brought any success (Nahki aside).
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Post by Dick on Nov 1, 2020 14:19:32 GMT
Selling Dean Windass and JJ which basically sent us down. Replacing Windass with Eddie Fucking Johnson. Getting on board with that Belgian club, bringing in Archie Christie, getting on board with Mark Ellis's academy. None of which brought any success (Nahki aside). You can say probably 95% of all decisions made have been wrong. Not than anyone gets a lot right in football and there are many variables, but on the pitch, off it, staff, commercial activity, facilities... then the more on-off decisions or opportunities such as the link up in Belgium or marketimg ourselves properly in 2013. We've got so much just wrong over the years, it not just getting a few key decisions wrong.
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Post by Bradford Wild Boars. on Nov 1, 2020 14:35:17 GMT
Somebody should write a 'Rhodes Era' book detailing the mess he has made starting with Richmond, through Gibbs, Etherington and Lawn right up to today.
It would be a great edition to John Dewhirsts series of City books.
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Post by jdc on Nov 1, 2020 15:13:34 GMT
It's specifically Rhodes tenure Tru dat - but its probably always been our model. Not like he did much to be different. Tordoff was a bit like Rhodes. Tight bastard, and the first time he had to find a new manager he just brought back Terry Yorath. Definite similarities there.
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Post by mikehunt on Nov 1, 2020 16:26:21 GMT
Selling Dean Windass and JJ which basically sent us down. Replacing Windass with Eddie Fucking Johnson. Getting on board with that Belgian club, bringing in Archie Christie, getting on board with Mark Ellis's academy. None of which brought any success (Nahki aside). You can say probably 95% of all decisions made have been wrong. Not than anyone gets a lot right in football and there are many variables, but on the pitch, off it, staff, commercial activity, facilities... then the more on-off decisions or opportunities such as the link up in Belgium or marketimg ourselves properly in 2013. We've got so much just wrong over the years, it not just getting a few key decisions wrong. The time with Gibbs which ended up in administration again and the ground and club being separated.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Nov 1, 2020 16:39:15 GMT
You can say probably 95% of all decisions made have been wrong. Not than anyone gets a lot right in football and there are many variables, but on the pitch, off it, staff, commercial activity, facilities... then the more on-off decisions or opportunities such as the link up in Belgium or marketimg ourselves properly in 2013. We've got so much just wrong over the years, it not just getting a few key decisions wrong. The time with Gibbs which ended up in administration again and the ground and club being separated. I noticed Mr Dewhirst forgot to mention Rhodes stabbing Gibb in the back is the reason why we get shafted with rent and why they haven't sold us the ground back like Gibb said he would.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Nov 1, 2020 17:05:42 GMT
The time with Gibbs which ended up in administration again and the ground and club being separated. I noticed Mr Dewhirst forgot to mention Rhodes stabbing Gibb in the back is the reason why we get shafted with rent and why they haven't sold us the ground back like Gibb said he would. What’s this?
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Post by mikehunt on Nov 1, 2020 17:30:34 GMT
The time with Gibbs which ended up in administration again and the ground and club being separated. I noticed Mr Dewhirst forgot to mention Rhodes stabbing Gibb in the back is the reason why we get shafted with rent and why they haven't sold us the ground back like Gibb said he would. No love lost between Rhodes and Gibb. According to Dennis on BT the Flamingo Land offered City a lease restructure that meant the lower the division the lower the rent, and vice versa. According to his account the offer was turned down. Typical of City if true
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Post by tetchyarse on Nov 1, 2020 17:55:06 GMT
Law was Richmond's, and Robson and Todd were Gibb's. Sacking Todd was on Rhodes, and we wouldn't have gone down if we'd kept him.
Other than Jackson, the frustrating thing is that there isn't anyone on that list who made you think "bad manager" at the time, Taylor especially.
As for the ground, Gibb fucked us over properly on that. For all the whining at the time that he was being made to look like the bad guy, he was why we went into admin the second time. The "deal to cut the rent" would have screwed us if we'd gone back up to the Championship. With hindsight that's not an issue, mind.
Rhodes hasn't owned the club for years but Gibb still hasn't sold it back. Maybe he just forgot.
The idea that Gibb was wonderful and amazing and was screwed over by Rhodes is laughable. He got the ground off us for a song and then we didn't see him for dust, taking his bat and ball home long before we were relegated out of D1. That second admin was all on Gibb, he'd stripped all the assets he could and then left Rhodes to pick up the pieces.
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