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Post by bantam147 on Nov 26, 2020 16:09:05 GMT
Continuity innit.
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Aaron
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Post by Aaron on Nov 26, 2020 16:18:11 GMT
How do we always manage to go beyond parody? You'll make a joke and we always manage to not only go through with that joke but take it a step beyond.
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Post by Hobhead on Nov 26, 2020 16:40:12 GMT
I don’t see the merit in this at all. McCall in or out you’ve got a manager that’s openly said this is his last job in England, he’s done nothing to worry about having him poached - he’s going fucking nowhere. His deal runs out at the end of the season, why not evaluate then?
Not only have we got time but then consider what he’s done to earn this reward. He’s built a shite squad, he thinks or pretends everything’s rosy, his selection are baffling, his formations unhinged and he’s got us sitting three points off oblivion. That’s not new contract material by anyone’s estimation.
Why can’t we have one of these mind-blowing days except the positive version?
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Post by Dick on Nov 26, 2020 16:43:21 GMT
Fuck it, why not give him the job for life? Would save on him coming back a 4th time, 5th....
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Post by jose on Nov 26, 2020 16:52:50 GMT
I love Stuart but it's bizarre, there is no one angling to take him and a longer contract thus puts them off. I just can't understand it.
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Post by stevayb on Nov 26, 2020 16:54:00 GMT
Can't even laugh at this one. Clubs taking us for a ride
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Post by Hobhead on Nov 26, 2020 16:59:08 GMT
Can't even laugh at this one. Clubs taking us for a ride You’ve got to laugh at starting the new regime with a move straight out of the Julian Rhodes play book. A new broom and all that.
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Post by fish on Nov 26, 2020 17:15:42 GMT
Fair play to city, just when I think we can't become anymore of a laughing stock, we manage to pull it out the hat.
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Post by Lofty on Nov 26, 2020 17:23:03 GMT
Imagine if this wasn't McCall. If this was Bowyer and he was offered a new deal with the current league position / performance combo? Nobody would be content.
McCall gets an easy ride because he was a decent player for us and is a nice guy. It's infuriating.
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Post by Dick on Nov 26, 2020 17:47:06 GMT
The cynic in me wonders if it was announced today as they knew it was pretty much nailed on that we wouldn't be allowed back in stadiums for a while?
I mean, imagine if you had full crowds at games - I don't think people would turn on Stuart, but they'd turn on Rupp, the players and then most likely just not bother going anymore.
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Post by Hobhead on Nov 26, 2020 17:52:54 GMT
The cynic in me wonders if it was announced today as they knew it was pretty much nailed one that we wouldn't be allowed back in stadiums for a while? I mean, imagine if you had full crowds at games - I don't think people would turn on Stuart, but they'd turn on Rupp, the players and then most likely just not bother going anymore. Covid might just kill the club anyway. It’s not like we’re starting from decent numbers and watching crowds dwindle. People have been forced to stop going and it’s been long enough now that the club will have to tempt them back. Our crowds are going to drastically shrink with or without Covid.
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Post by Van Ginger on Nov 28, 2020 17:23:42 GMT
Another consistent result.. let's add another year onto Macca and Black's deals
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Post by Neshead on Nov 28, 2020 17:24:51 GMT
Another consistent result.. let's add another year onto Macca and Black's deals Give em another extension.
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Post by rcbantam on Nov 28, 2020 17:33:29 GMT
I actually dont give a fuck.
I've sat here watching that shit not cheering, never got excited. Didnt even get angry either.
This team is shit... so is McCall, fraud.
Anyone who thinks DMH is a player needs a smack with a dead fish.
He's not the only poor player the fraud has brought in...
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Nov 28, 2020 20:42:54 GMT
I still don’t think McCall is the problem. He’s middle of the road but I’m pretty sure there’s a bunch of studies that say a manager makes about ten percent difference anyway. The fact he’s lumbered with shit players is a much bigger problem and not one you can really pin on him.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Nov 28, 2020 21:10:37 GMT
I still don’t think McCall is the problem. He’s middle of the road but I’m pretty sure there’s a bunch of studies that say a manager makes about ten percent difference anyway. The fact he’s lumbered with shit players is a much bigger problem and not one you can really pin on him. Don't talk shite, having DMH BRE and The Don are fucking useless and that's more than 10%. Sikora and Cousin-Dawson could not do any worse than BRE so write his wages off relegate him to the kids and tell him to rot or fuck off in January. DMH should go to the u14s he might look half decent then. These are Stuart's decisions and it was his decision to have a small squad, he brought in players he knew were shite, he didn't spend a third of the salary cap that's his fault. He spent 7 months knowing the areas we needed to be better in and he made us worse in almost every position,AND refused an offer for Guthrie!!!! Even the Orient commentary team took the piss out of us having him. There is nobody else to blame for being out of all competitions and staring the conference in the face apart from Stuart. God I love the man but he's now losing my respect and his hero status is diminishing every game and that fucking hurts.
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Post by moshi on Nov 28, 2020 21:47:59 GMT
I still don’t think McCall is the problem. He’s middle of the road but I’m pretty sure there’s a bunch of studies that say a manager makes about ten percent difference anyway. The fact he’s lumbered with shit players is a much bigger problem and not one you can really pin on him. Don't talk shite, having DMH BRE and The Don are fucking useless and that's more than 10%. Sikora and Cousin-Dawson could not do any worse than BRE so write his wages off relegate him to the kids and tell him to rot or fuck off in January. DMH should go to the u14s he might look half decent then. These are Stuart's decisions and it was his decision to have a small squad, he brought in players he knew were shite, he didn't spend a third of the salary cap that's his fault. He spent 7 months knowing the areas we needed to be better in and he made us worse in almost every position,AND refused an offer for Guthrie!!!! Even the Orient commentary team took the piss out of us having him. There is nobody else to blame for being out of all competitions and staring the conference in the face apart from Stuart. God I love the man but he's now losing my respect and his hero status is diminishing every game and that fucking hurts. Is it his fault though? Plenty on here called it and saw it coming. Squad not good enough. You think an ex pro who has management experience thought otherwise? Not buying it, Stuart’s budget was slashed dramatically and the people who appointed knew he would not moan about it. Look at the last time he was here. All the shit that went on with Rahic. Did he ever talk about it post match? No he kept his mouth shut. For all his baffling tactical decisions, it’s painfully obvious this situation is not entirely his fault. Pick any manager you want, no one is going to getting measurably better results from this sack of shite.
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Post by mikehunt on Nov 28, 2020 21:50:34 GMT
I still don’t think McCall is the problem. He’s middle of the road but I’m pretty sure there’s a bunch of studies that say a manager makes about ten percent difference anyway. The fact he’s lumbered with shit players is a much bigger problem and not one you can really pin on him. How long have Novak and Guthrie been injured? He could have brought an out of contract player in but didn’t, he didn’t when they were fit and everyone said the strikers were rubbish. Same goes for BRE. He signed DMH. This is on him.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Nov 28, 2020 22:17:54 GMT
Don't talk shite, having DMH BRE and The Don are fucking useless and that's more than 10%. Sikora and Cousin-Dawson could not do any worse than BRE so write his wages off relegate him to the kids and tell him to rot or fuck off in January. DMH should go to the u14s he might look half decent then. These are Stuart's decisions and it was his decision to have a small squad, he brought in players he knew were shite, he didn't spend a third of the salary cap that's his fault. He spent 7 months knowing the areas we needed to be better in and he made us worse in almost every position,AND refused an offer for Guthrie!!!! Even the Orient commentary team took the piss out of us having him. There is nobody else to blame for being out of all competitions and staring the conference in the face apart from Stuart. God I love the man but he's now losing my respect and his hero status is diminishing every game and that fucking hurts. Is it his fault though? Plenty on here called it and saw it coming. Squad not good enough. You think an ex pro who has management experience thought otherwise? Not buying it, Stuart’s budget was slashed dramatically and the people who appointed knew he would not moan about it. Look at the last time he was here. All the shit that went on with Rahic. Did he ever talk about it post match? No he kept his mouth shut. For all his baffling tactical decisions, it’s painfully obvious this situation is not entirely his fault. Pick any manager you want, no one is going to getting measurably better results from this sack of shite. This is basically my argument. I don’t know what’s involved in being a football manager but I’d expect there’s budgets to work in, targets to hit, constraints. Expecting Stuart to be solely responsible for everything on the playing side is setting him up to fail. I don’t think it’s him, I think it’s the strictures he’s stuck in.
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Post by tetchyarse on Nov 28, 2020 22:23:37 GMT
Is it his fault though? Plenty on here called it and saw it coming. Squad not good enough. You think an ex pro who has management experience thought otherwise? Not buying it, Stuart’s budget was slashed dramatically and the people who appointed knew he would not moan about it. Look at the last time he was here. All the shit that went on with Rahic. Did he ever talk about it post match? No he kept his mouth shut. For all his baffling tactical decisions, it’s painfully obvious this situation is not entirely his fault. Pick any manager you want, no one is going to getting measurably better results from this sack of shite. This is basically my argument. I don’t know what’s involved in being a football manager but I’d expect there’s budgets to work in, targets to hit, constraints. Expecting Stuart to be solely responsible for everything on the playing side is setting him up to fail. I don’t think it’s him, I think it’s the strictures he’s stuck in. The problems go deeper than Stuart McCall, we all know this as better managers than Stuart McCall have failed here. But Stuart McCall is a significant part of the problem.
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