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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Sept 27, 2020 7:21:55 GMT
If it goes ahead what do we do ? Guthrie has to be dropped, AOC straight back in? They haven't started well whereas we're showing signs of being half decent in a league of awful teams. If Stuart brings in a decent striker this week and Evans gets a full weeks training in I'd strongly fancy us.
ROD
Sutton
French AOC Staunton
Wood
Watt Cooke/Clarke Evans
Novak Clarke/new striker
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Post by mikehunt on Sept 27, 2020 7:40:51 GMT
I’d probably go for four at the back. Watt playing a deeper role and if he doesn’t get a striker in, play Ismail or DMH instead of Guthrie, they’re no good either but at least they offer a bit of pace.
Stuart will probably worry about Hanson’s presence and play five at the back and AOC in midfield.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 27, 2020 8:27:23 GMT
If it goes ahead what do we do ? Guthrie has to be dropped, AOC straight back in? They haven't started well whereas we're showing signs of being half decent in a league of awful teams. If Stuart brings in a decent striker this week and Evans gets a full weeks training in I'd strongly fancy us. ROD Sutton French AOC Staunton Wood Watt Cooke/Clarke Evans Novak Clarke/new striker Clarke will start in the same position he started yesterday, i also expect McCall to stick with Guthrie even though he was never in the game yesterday. I think his his only decision will be wether to bring in Evans for Cooke. Desperately need another striking option, bigging up Guth in the T and A every other day hasn't paid off.
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Post by fish on Sept 27, 2020 8:27:28 GMT
Same team as yesterday, but O'Cunt in for BRE and a new striker (lol) in for guthrie.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Sept 27, 2020 9:24:47 GMT
If it goes ahead what do we do ? Guthrie has to be dropped, AOC straight back in? They haven't started well whereas we're showing signs of being half decent in a league of awful teams. If Stuart brings in a decent striker this week and Evans gets a full weeks training in I'd strongly fancy us. ROD Sutton French AOC Staunton Wood Watt Cooke/Clarke Evans Novak Clarke/new striker Clarke will start in the same position he started yesterday, i also expect McCall to stick with Guthrie even though he was never in the game yesterday. I think his his only decision will be wether to bring in Evans for Cooke. Desperately need another striking option, bigging up Guth in the T and A every other day hasn't paid off. Guff has contributed bugger all ever since he came, there's nothing to lose by playing Clarke or Evans off Novak until we find someone to fill that void. That should then give either of them 2 or Cooke the freedom from midfield.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 27, 2020 9:36:02 GMT
Clarke will start in the same position he started yesterday, i also expect McCall to stick with Guthrie even though he was never in the game yesterday. I think his his only decision will be wether to bring in Evans for Cooke. Desperately need another striking option, bigging up Guth in the T and A every other day hasn't paid off. Guff has contributed bugger all ever since he came, there's nothing to lose by playing Clarke or Evans off Novak until we find someone to fill that void. That should then give either of them 2 or Cooke the freedom from midfield. You do not move Clarke from that position, he got motm yesterday. Its where he plays best. Stick Evans up there if you want to keep Cooke in midfield.
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 27, 2020 9:54:39 GMT
Guff has contributed bugger all ever since he came, there's nothing to lose by playing Clarke or Evans off Novak until we find someone to fill that void. That should then give either of them 2 or Cooke the freedom from midfield. You do not move Clarke from that position, he got motm yesterday. Its where he plays best. Stick Evans up there if you want to keep Cooke in midfield. What about a radical 2-1 formation upfront? Clarke and Evans behind Novak? I can’t see the point of trying to play with two strikers when we don’t have two at the club. Can Evans play upfront? We need to do something until we sign a new forward because there looks to be absolutely no point playing either Guthrie or Donaldo.
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Post by Hoochy on Sept 27, 2020 10:08:17 GMT
Unless it's a free wages loan, I don't see us signing a striker until we shift one on.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 27, 2020 10:17:15 GMT
You do not move Clarke from that position, he got motm yesterday. Its where he plays best. Stick Evans up there if you want to keep Cooke in midfield. What about a radical 2-1 formation upfront? Clarke and Evans behind Novak? I can’t see the point of trying to play with two strikers when we don’t have two at the club. Can Evans play upfront? We need to do something until we sign a new forward because there looks to be absolutely no point playing either Guthrie or Donaldo. Try owt and see if it works. I'd say Clarke has to be the pivot to anything we do though. Its working out whats the best balance with what we have available and at the moment the best balance sees Cooke being pushed into a position that doesn't really suit him. So what do we do, move one of our better players out of position to accomodate him or do we move a player like Sutton or Evans to fill the role currently been done by Cooke. Where does that leave Pritchard? Both him and Cooke do their best work behind the front two and now we have another player in Evans who deos the same thing. This mirrors what Bowyer was doing with Palmer, Reeves and Cooke when really we need a quality wide man and heaven forbid a striker who has pace. We've already tried Ismail and DMH, both who have shown little. Maybe stick DMH upfront cos he's the only one at the moment who has pace, Connolly for all his faults did look a threat with the through ball and often got to it. Just never knew what to do with it. McCall has stumbled across a system that could work in a very poor division but i'm not sure he sees it yet. As i see it guaranteed starter in midfield and up front are Novak, Clarke, Watt, leaves 2 spaces to fillif your going with wingback or three 3 spaces if a flat back 4. Gives you Cooke, Pritchard, Ismail, Donaldson, Guthrie, DMH and Evans. Possibly Sutton if we go with a back four with French as right back/right wing back. Take your pick, with Clarke being a starter i think 4-4-2 is out of the question, so either 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2, or 4-1-3-2 if we add another striker. Summat like that anyway.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Sept 27, 2020 10:29:59 GMT
What about a radical 2-1 formation upfront? Clarke and Evans behind Novak? I can’t see the point of trying to play with two strikers when we don’t have two at the club. Can Evans play upfront? We need to do something until we sign a new forward because there looks to be absolutely no point playing either Guthrie or Donaldo. Try owt and see if it works. I'd say Clarke has to be the pivot to anything we do though. Its working out whats the best balance with what we have available and at the moment the best balance sees Cooke being pushed into a position that doesn't really suit him. So what do we do, move one of our better players out of position to accomodate him or do we move a player like Sutton or Evans to fill the role currently been done by Cooke. Where does that leave Pritchard? Both him and Cooke do their best work behind the front two and now we have another player in Evans who deos the same thing. This mirrors what Bowyer was doing with Palmer, Reeves and Cooke when really we need a quality wide man and heaven forbid a striker who has pace. We've already tried Ismail and DMH, both who have shown little. Maybe stick DMH upfront cos he's the only one at the moment who has pace, Connolly for all his faults did look a threat with the through ball and often got to it. Just never knew what to do with it. McCall has stumbled across a system that could work in a very poor division but i'm not sure he sees it yet. As i see it guaranteed starter in midfield and up front are Novak, Clarke, Watt, leaves 2 spaces to fillif your going with wingback or three 3 spaces if a flat back 4. Gives you Cooke, Pritchard, Ismail, Donaldson, Guthrie, DMH and Evans. Possibly Sutton if we go with a back four with French as right back/right wing back. Take your pick, with Clarke being a starter i think 4-4-2 is out of the question, so either 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2, or 4-1-3-2 if we add another striker. Summat like that anyway. Pritchard at the moment is a sub at best, he's a grafter with the the odd bit of ability but he's a conference player for me
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Post by Hoochy on Sept 27, 2020 10:31:37 GMT
What about a radical 2-1 formation upfront? Clarke and Evans behind Novak? I can’t see the point of trying to play with two strikers when we don’t have two at the club. Can Evans play upfront? We need to do something until we sign a new forward because there looks to be absolutely no point playing either Guthrie or Donaldo. Try owt and see if it works. I'd say Clarke has to be the pivot to anything we do though. Its working out whats the best balance with what we have available and at the moment the best balance sees Cooke being pushed into a position that doesn't really suit him. So what do we do, move one of our better players out of position to accomodate him or do we move a player like Sutton or Evans to fill the role currently been done by Cooke. Where does that leave Pritchard? Both him and Cooke do their best work behind the front two and now we have another player in Evans who deos the same thing. This mirrors what Bowyer was doing with Palmer, Reeves and Cooke when really we need a quality wide man and heaven forbid a striker who has pace. We've already tried Ismail and DMH, both who have shown little. Maybe stick DMH upfront cos he's the only one at the moment who has pace, Connolly for all his faults did look a threat with the through ball and often got to it. Just never knew what to do with it. McCall has stumbled across a system that could work in a very poor division but i'm not sure he sees it yet. As i see it guaranteed starter in midfield and up front are Novak, Clarke, Watt, leaves 2 spaces to fillif your going with wingback or three 3 spaces if a flat back 4. Gives you Cooke, Pritchard, Ismail, Donaldson, Guthrie, DMH and Evans. Possibly Sutton if we go with a back four with French as right back/right wing back. Take your pick, with Clarke being a starter i think 4-4-2 is out of the question, so either 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2, or 4-1-3-2 if we add another striker. Summat like that anyway. Clarke's had a couple of half decent games against Bolton and Stevenage who both looked shite. See how it goes against well organised opposition before we start building the team around him.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 27, 2020 10:37:46 GMT
Try owt and see if it works. I'd say Clarke has to be the pivot to anything we do though. Its working out whats the best balance with what we have available and at the moment the best balance sees Cooke being pushed into a position that doesn't really suit him. So what do we do, move one of our better players out of position to accomodate him or do we move a player like Sutton or Evans to fill the role currently been done by Cooke. Where does that leave Pritchard? Both him and Cooke do their best work behind the front two and now we have another player in Evans who deos the same thing. This mirrors what Bowyer was doing with Palmer, Reeves and Cooke when really we need a quality wide man and heaven forbid a striker who has pace. We've already tried Ismail and DMH, both who have shown little. Maybe stick DMH upfront cos he's the only one at the moment who has pace, Connolly for all his faults did look a threat with the through ball and often got to it. Just never knew what to do with it. McCall has stumbled across a system that could work in a very poor division but i'm not sure he sees it yet. As i see it guaranteed starter in midfield and up front are Novak, Clarke, Watt, leaves 2 spaces to fillif your going with wingback or three 3 spaces if a flat back 4. Gives you Cooke, Pritchard, Ismail, Donaldson, Guthrie, DMH and Evans. Possibly Sutton if we go with a back four with French as right back/right wing back. Take your pick, with Clarke being a starter i think 4-4-2 is out of the question, so either 4-2-3-1, 3-5-2, or 4-1-3-2 if we add another striker. Summat like that anyway. Clarke's had a couple of half decent games against Bolton and Stevenage who both looked shite. See how it goes against well organised opposition before we start building the team around him. Fair point, how would you line up minus Clarke?
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Post by Dick on Sept 27, 2020 10:39:54 GMT
Based on what I've seen so far, Novak despite his misses at least shows some striker instinct, takes risks, gets into the right areas and looks for where balls are going to be played.
On that basis I'd be content for us to keep playing balls into him the way we are but looking at getting the the right partner up top for him as a priority - and if it (likely) means sacking off our other 'forwards' then so be it.
The volume of pro-Guthrie articles is just going to piss fans off more as they draw more attention to his half arsed performances. We all want him to prove everyone wrong but for fuck's sake, he genuinely being compared to Brunkner.
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Post by Hobhead on Sept 27, 2020 10:40:44 GMT
That’s the trouble, then you’re back to two up front and we don’t have two forwards worth the name at the club.
Clarke gets in on merit, because he’s a manager favourite and by default at the minute.
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Post by Hoochy on Sept 27, 2020 10:43:56 GMT
Clarke's had a couple of half decent games against Bolton and Stevenage who both looked shite. See how it goes against well organised opposition before we start building the team around him. Fair point, how would you line up minus Clarke? Difficult to say with squad we've built so far. Could play the 532 with Sutton, Watt and Cooke as the 3, Clarke on the bench or up front with Novak but I don't think he's at his best up front.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 27, 2020 10:48:57 GMT
I'll stick my neck out and say our success this season depends on Clarke having a good season. He plays well, we play well.
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Post by Hoochy on Sept 27, 2020 11:18:35 GMT
I'll stick my neck out and say our success this season depends on Clarke having a good season. He plays well, we play well. I hope you're correct. Seems strange that we've signed him very early on with the intention to play with this deep number 10 type but we've not complimented him with other players to suit his style.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Sept 27, 2020 12:16:50 GMT
This squad and the fact we only have one striker who is even half dangerous has 4231 written all over it and I can't see how Stuart is missing this. Our pitch isn't the widest so you don't need 5 across the middle unless you're trying to nullify. Play Wood and Sutton as attacking full backs the O Connors in the middle. Watt playing the 6 role with Cooke being the box to box. With a 3 of Clarke,Ismael and Evans behind Novak you've got 3 tricky players all capable of link up play and sliding balls through and movement that can open up defences.
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Post by Hoochy on Sept 27, 2020 12:18:15 GMT
This squad and the fact we only have one striker who is even half dangerous has 4231 written all over it and I can't see how Stuart is missing this. Our pitch isn't the widest so you don't need 5 across the middle unless you're trying to nullify. Play Wood and Sutton as attacking full backs the O Connors in the middle. Watt playing the 6 role with Cooke being the box to box. With a 3 of Clarke,Ismael and Evans behind Novak you've got 3 tricky players all capable of link up play and sliding balls through and movement that can open up defences. It would just end up as a 4411 with Novak isolated.
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Post by Neshead on Sept 27, 2020 12:26:09 GMT
This squad and the fact we only have one striker who is even half dangerous has 4231 written all over it and I can't see how Stuart is missing this. Our pitch isn't the widest so you don't need 5 across the middle unless you're trying to nullify. Play Wood and Sutton as attacking full backs the O Connors in the middle. Watt playing the 6 role with Cooke being the box to box. With a 3 of Clarke,Ismael and Evans behind Novak you've got 3 tricky players all capable of link up play and sliding balls through and movement that can open up defences. Cooke is not a box to box player, not really a role you see these days. Lewis O'Brien was/is but then he had the best engine i think i've seen in a footballer, he could run all day. Cooke has to be given a role in the opponents final third, if your playing your 3 can he complement Clarke or is it one or the other?
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