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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Aug 28, 2020 10:08:21 GMT
As it stands right now I can't see us being above 20th.
1. Mansfield 2. Tranmere 3. Bolton
Play offs Port Vale
21. Us 22. Oldham 23. Carlisle 24. Stevenage
Obviously if we go out and get 4 or 5 players on a par with Cooke and Wood that would change but there's zero confidence in this club to do that.
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Post by Neshead on Aug 28, 2020 10:17:41 GMT
As it stands right now I can't see us being above 20th. 1. Mansfield 2. Tranmere 3. Bolton Play offs Port Vale 21. Us 22. Oldham 23. Carlisle 24. Stevenage Obviously if we go out and get 4 or 5 players on a par with Cooke and Wood that would change but there's zero confidence in this club to do that. A couple of loan players and I think we're on the edge of the playoffs, if not about mid table.
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Post by Hobhead on Aug 28, 2020 10:35:49 GMT
Right now about halfway between middle and bottom. By the end of the transfer window, about halfway between middle and bottom.
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Post by Hobhead on Aug 28, 2020 10:37:45 GMT
As it stands right now I can't see us being above 20th. 1. Mansfield 2. Tranmere 3. Bolton Play offs Port Vale 21. Us 22. Oldham 23. Carlisle 24. Stevenage Obviously if we go out and get 4 or 5 players on a par with Cooke and Wood that would change but there's zero confidence in this club to do that. A couple of loan players and I think we're on the edge of the playoffs, if not about mid table. If we can do these zero wage deals for loans that were supposed to be in the offing there’s no excuse for not getting five loanees in. If we did that I’d fancy us to get two useful ones. Mid table would be about right then I think.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 11:26:03 GMT
Champions by Easter. Guthrie 30 goals Clarke 15
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Post by tetchyarse on Aug 28, 2020 11:33:17 GMT
Stevenage, Carlisle, Barrow, Harrogate, Morecambe and Crawley will finish below us. All will beat us at VP. So I reckon 18th.
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Post by Nice boy on Aug 28, 2020 11:42:12 GMT
As things stand we’re somehow weaker than last season. The only changes we’ve made to the first 11 are POC and Watt in, with Vaughan and Connelly out. A few injuries to key players and it has all the hallmarks of a relegation season.
Moving forward I’d be amazed if we didn’t bring in a RB better than Mellor. Think we’ll also bring in a pacy striker who’ll improve us up front so on that basis I’m guessing lower mid table, but that depends on keeping our first choice 11 fit.
Not a lot to be optimistic about really.
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Post by mikehunt on Aug 28, 2020 11:51:08 GMT
Depends who we sign, three of four good quality players and some good luck could see us with an outside chance of the playoffs. On the other hand the way we’re being groomed for Guthrie leading the line, and the inevitability of any new signings being kids on loan from Town and Peterborough, we’re a couple of injuries and suspensions away from looking over our shoulder at the bottom five.
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Post by mikehunt on Aug 28, 2020 11:57:02 GMT
As things stand we’re somehow weaker than last season. The only changes we’ve made to the first 11 is POC and Watt in, with Vaughan and Connelly out. A few injuries to key players and it has all the hallmarks of a relegation season. Moving forward I’d be amazed if we didn’t bring in a RB better than Mellor. Think we’ll also bring in a pacy striker who’ll improve us up front so on that basis I’m guessing lower mid table, but that depends on keeping our first choice 11 fit. Not a lot to be optimistic really. This is what worries me, we were shit last season, ignoring the ‘in the top seven for most of last season idiots’, and the only new signings and Watt and Sutton, and Sutton is from one of the few teams to have done worse than us in the last four or five years. With the same squad, how does anyone expect any better than last season? The likes of Akpan and Anderson were shit, but we’re a suspension for Watt and an injury to Cooke away from Sutton and AOC or Clarke in midfield.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Aug 28, 2020 11:57:03 GMT
Will we go up? Haha haha Will we go down? Ooh dunno we might actually
16th.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Aug 28, 2020 12:37:38 GMT
Champions by Easter. Guthrie 30 goals Clarke 15 Clarke 15....knee operations and times he hits the scoreboard with his shots.
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Post by hobbes on Aug 28, 2020 12:47:25 GMT
This thread tells you everything you need to know about how shit we are. Pinning our hopes on a few youth loans to even get on the fringes of the play offs.
My prediction? Wearily familiar decentish start then a terrible November. Slight pick up in December before the window opens. Offload whoever is "the bad apple" (best player) this season. Sign even worse replacement. Form drops off a cliff, safe with 3 games to go.
Repeat to fade...
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Post by Dick on Aug 28, 2020 12:53:02 GMT
I don't see what exactly has improved from last season, other than probably Watt and Cooke.
13th. Complaints will be about too much possession but we don't move the ball forward, create of finish enough. Lack of width, fitness and outlet players also.
Aside from a striker / RB we're still missing a dominating Andrew Davies type at the back for me.
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Post by Nice boy on Aug 28, 2020 13:11:29 GMT
Although I can see why he’s doing it McCall is making a big mistake by setting us up with 5 at the back. What he should have done is not sign Clarke, get rid of Guthrie when had the chance and use the 2 ‘free’ spaces to sign a couple of wingers. Imagine what our midfield would like with 2 quality wide men running teams ragged, with Watt and Cooke controlling things in the middle. We go from looking like a team destined for mid-table mediocrity to one that can compete with any team in the division. Instead, all weve got as an attacking threat is Callum Cooke. Once teams figure this out we become very easy to stifle.
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Post by cjunluck on Aug 28, 2020 13:15:27 GMT
13th. Absolutely nailed on
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 13:51:18 GMT
Although I can see why he’s doing it McCall is making a big mistake by setting us up with 5 at the back. What he should have done is not sign Clarke, get rid of Guthrie when had the chance and use the 2 ‘free’ spaces to sign a couple of wingers. Imagine what our midfield would like with 2 quality wide men running teams ragged, with Watt and Cooke controlling things in the middle. We go from looking like a team destined for mid-table mediocrity to one that can compete with any team in the division. Instead, all weve got as an attacking threat is Callum Cooke. Once teams figure this out we become very easy to stifle. Our defence isn't good enough to have wingers in the side, and we havent got wing backs to attack. So its just a load of creative less plodders gasping like a bunch of covid ridden pensioners
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Post by benitocarbone on Aug 28, 2020 14:10:06 GMT
We need a striker, a right back and a tough tackling midfielder just to be respectable next season. Without them it’s a season of seriously looking over our shoulder.
If we want to challenge then we need a better CB and another winger too which simply ain’t happening in a million years.
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Post by Nice boy on Aug 28, 2020 14:13:35 GMT
Although I can see why he’s doing it McCall is making a big mistake by setting us up with 5 at the back. What he should have done is not sign Clarke, get rid of Guthrie when had the chance and use the 2 ‘free’ spaces to sign a couple of wingers. Imagine what our midfield would like with 2 quality wide men running teams ragged, with Watt and Cooke controlling things in the middle. We go from looking like a team destined for mid-table mediocrity to one that can compete with any team in the division. Instead, all weve got as an attacking threat is Callum Cooke. Once teams figure this out we become very easy to stifle. Our defence isn't good enough to have wingers in the side, and we havent got wing backs to attack. So its just a load of creative less plodders gasping like a bunch of covid ridden pensioners At the moment we have a shit defence, a lackluster midfield and strike force which is one of the worst I’ve seen. 2 quality wingers or even one will see us on the front foot, create more chances, score more goals and ease the pressure off a vulnerable defence. When you have little to no attacking impetus as we currently have the defence are going to be exposed more often and we won’t have enough goals in the side to compensate for our deficiencies elsewhere.
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Post by benitocarbone on Aug 28, 2020 14:21:16 GMT
Playing three CBs worries me too. Although a good idea on paper to rectify a leaky defence, every time we tried it last year the useless bastards looked completely lost and the personnel hasn’t changed at all.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2020 14:24:54 GMT
Our defence isn't good enough to have wingers in the side, and we havent got wing backs to attack. So its just a load of creative less plodders gasping like a bunch of covid ridden pensioners At the moment we have a shit defence, a lackluster midfield and strike force which is one of the worst I’ve seen. 2 quality wingers or even one will see us on the front foot, create more chances, score more goals and ease the pressure off a vulnerable defence. When you have little to no attacking impetus as we currently have the defence are going to be exposed more often and we won’t have enough goals in the side to compensate for our deficiencies elsewhere. There's not a cat in hells chance of McCall playing with wingers, our midfield is so ponderous they'd pour through us. He might play someone out wide and try pass him off as a winger, but in reality he'll be a right sided midfielder. Unfortunately we are so easy to play against, it will just be a repeat of last years tipp tappy no penetration football. Luckily I've only got to attend half the matches
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