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Post by Nice boy on Jul 25, 2020 6:03:39 GMT
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Post by Nice boy on Jul 25, 2020 6:06:40 GMT
This signing has really pissed me off. Cooke wasn’t on McCall’s radar, so the players agent gives McCall a ring and we sign him up because “It’s the desire of him to be here that has made it happen.”
Fuck off. How about some actual fking scouting rather than signing players because they want to be here?
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Post by Nice boy on Jul 25, 2020 6:36:15 GMT
Sutton- worked with McCall at Scunthorpe.
Clarke- Worked with McCall in previous spell.
Cooke- signed by the previous manager, briefly worked with McCall. another ex player.
Mottley-Henry- Ex player, worked with McCall
Lazy and unimaginative and that’s not a snipe at Cooke who’s by far the pick of the bunch.
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Post by slymutha on Jul 25, 2020 6:37:52 GMT
Actually a good player, in a position we need and and all round good signing.... broken leg by September I reckon
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jul 25, 2020 6:44:16 GMT
Sutton- worked with McCall at Scunthorpe. Clarke- Worked with McCall in previous spell. Cooke- signed by the previous manager, briefly worked with McCall. another ex player. Mottley-Henry- Ex player, worked with McCall Lazy and unimaginative and that’s not a snipe at Cooke who’s by far the pick of the bunch. While I agree with you this signing is actually quite decent. He looked good for most of the season despite Boreya trying his best to ruin everyone. After Watt signs he has to go out and get a couple more wingers and a right back at the very least and they will have to be something special to change my mind on this club and McCall
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Post by fish on Jul 25, 2020 6:45:13 GMT
This signing has really pissed me off. Cooke wasn’t on McCall’s radar, so the players agent gives McCall a ring and we sign him up because “It’s the desire of him to be here that has made it happen.” Fuck off. How about some actual fking scouting rather than signing players because they want to be here? you're right in general, theres no scouting in place whatsoever. But cooke is a good player and I can't complain with this one even if he was an easy target for stuart.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 25, 2020 6:56:35 GMT
This signing has really pissed me off. Cooke wasn’t on McCall’s radar, so the players agent gives McCall a ring and we sign him up because “It’s the desire of him to be here that has made it happen.” Fuck off. How about some actual fking scouting rather than signing players because they want to be here? There’s nothing wrong with signing a former player if that player is actually decent. That said I have to agree with you in principle - it’s a pretty ridiculous approach. Going about recruitment this way is dangerously limiting and can’t continue in the longer term. Signing ex players or players your manager knows rather than doing the basics like opening your horizons to every player possible and even a few hidden gems discovered ‘by accident’ leaves us fishing in a much shallower talent pool than clubs who do things properly. Another thing to consider is the level out manager has worked at and just how shit the vast majority of our former players are. McCall shouldn’t have to do it all. If this was an isolated instance of signing a former player it would actually be quite shrewd. We know exactly what the lad has to offer and, by having him on loan, it could be argued that we’ve more than scouted him. The trouble is it’s not an isolated incident; it’s symptomatic of our chaotic recruitment. Shabby recruitment aside I think Cooke will go on to be a cracking signing, especially if we sign a more defensive, tough-tackling midfielder to sit beside him and allow him to play his more natural game. Last season he played with shirkers and hiders and still shone. If McCall frees him up I also think he’ll get more goals than every one of our ‘strikers’ bar Vaughan.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 25, 2020 7:59:40 GMT
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Post by Nice boy on Jul 25, 2020 8:10:14 GMT
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Post by Aaron on Jul 25, 2020 8:28:34 GMT
Just hope we finally add a bit of a ball winning hard bastard into the middle now as an option at least and then that should be the central midfield just about set - saying that, I have no idea what type of player Sutton actually is.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 25, 2020 8:37:40 GMT
Just hope we finally add a bit of a ball winning hard bastard into the middle now as an option at least and then that should be the central midfield just about set - saying that, I have no idea what type of player Sutton actually is. Agreed. From the little I’ve heard of Watt he’s rumoured to like a tackle. I suspect when Watt signs that’ll be it for centre mid though as we’ll be looking at Sutton for cover and two of the youths we’ve promoted are central midfielders. If we take into account Ismail’s injury problems then it looks like Pritchard will play a few games. He’s a more covering/defensive winger so we’ll probably look to him to shore up the midfield a bit. Hopefully between Watt and Pritchard it forces McCall’s hand to give Cooke licence.
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Post by benitocarbone on Jul 25, 2020 9:28:43 GMT
Was our best player last season up until Boreya ruined him by playing him as a holding midfielder and then blaming him against Port Vale and Exeter.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 25, 2020 9:35:41 GMT
Was our best player last season up until Boreya ruined him by playing him as a holding midfielder and then blaming him against Port Vale and Exeter. I agree. Topping our tackling stats when he’s surrounded by supposed defensive midfielders and having the fourth best pass completion rate in the division all while being incorrectly deployed says he should shine with the shackles off.
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Post by bantam147 on Jul 25, 2020 12:12:36 GMT
Yeah good signing tbf. Still think we need an older head in there though. A bit of a cunt. Watt, Cooke and 2 youthies ain’t much of a midfield for the grind of league 2. We’ll need another. Even a Jim O’Brien type - I thought we should’ve kept him for League 2, he’d have been a much better bet than Akpan, Devine, Anderson or that twat we had on loan from Burton who I can’t even remember his name
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Post by moshimoshi on Jul 25, 2020 19:11:45 GMT
I’m glad we’ve signed him, but what does this mean for the eternal Billy Clarke problem? Cooke should take the attacking slot of a 2 man pairing, rendering Clarke a bit pointless. Unless they actually intend to play him as a striker?
Assuming we’re doing a basic four four fucking two type scenario.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 25, 2020 19:29:54 GMT
I’m glad we’ve signed him, but what does this mean for the eternal Billy Clarke problem? Cooke should take the attacking slot of a 2 man pairing, rendering Clarke a bit pointless. Unless they actually intend to play him as a striker? Assuming we’re doing a basic four four fucking two type scenario. Clarke’s signing looks even more pointless now we’ve signed Cooke. How do we find room for both given Clarke’s already difficult to fit in? Knowing us we’ll stunt the promising twenty three year old Cooke to accommodate a badly fading thirty two year old Clarke. Then, twelve months down the line, we’ll discover we actually have a player in Cooke but his contract is running down while Clarke is retired and happily running a mail order coffee business from Guiseley.
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Post by fish on Jul 25, 2020 19:31:07 GMT
I’m glad we’ve signed him, but what does this mean for the eternal Billy Clarke problem? Cooke should take the attacking slot of a 2 man pairing, rendering Clarke a bit pointless. Unless they actually intend to play him as a striker? Assuming we’re doing a basic four four fucking two type scenario. he'll play behind the striker whoever that is, with Cooke and most likely Watt in behind.
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Post by Neshead on Jul 25, 2020 19:36:15 GMT
I’m glad we’ve signed him, but what does this mean for the eternal Billy Clarke problem? Cooke should take the attacking slot of a 2 man pairing, rendering Clarke a bit pointless. Unless they actually intend to play him as a striker? Assuming we’re doing a basic four four fucking two type scenario. Clarke’s signing looks even more pointless now we’ve signed Cooke. How do we find room for both given Clarke’s already difficult to fit in? Knowing us we’ll stunt the promising twenty three year old Cooke to accommodate a badly fading thirty two year old Clarke. Then, twelve months down the line, we’ll discover we actually have a player in Cooke but his contract is running down while Clarke is retired and happily running a mail order coffee business from Guiseley. The ex footballers route is now selling ketones m8.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 25, 2020 19:36:33 GMT
I’m glad we’ve signed him, but what does this mean for the eternal Billy Clarke problem? Cooke should take the attacking slot of a 2 man pairing, rendering Clarke a bit pointless. Unless they actually intend to play him as a striker? Assuming we’re doing a basic four four fucking two type scenario. he'll play behind the striker whoever that is, with Cooke and most likely Watt in behind. Given we’ve only got one actual striker this might be the best option.
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Post by benitocarbone on Jul 25, 2020 20:53:03 GMT
he'll play behind the striker whoever that is, with Cooke and most likely Watt in behind. Given we’ve only got one actual striker this might be the best option. Not if/when that striker leaves and we have to play one of the other useless impersonators up there instead. Saw someone saying on Twitter that if Vaughan goes then we’ll need to replace him with a 20 goal a season striker. All very good in principle and we know that they’re so easy to come by dont we?!
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