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Post by moshimoshi on Jul 18, 2020 13:54:19 GMT
Lol, your a bunch half wits aren’t you. He’s the only winger we’ve got, no in fact the only player we’ve got with any pace at all. This team is in real need of some pace, that’s all a gillz and connellsys had, and it made them good enough to have an impact. Don’t get me wrong, this signing doesn’t have me bouncing off the walls and ordering the bunting for our promotion party, but it’s not a terrible signing. It does probably confirm we’re set to be in this league for some time to come. Rupp wont spend the cash. Pace is good. I like pace. Give me pace over height any day. Pace for pace’s sake though, I’m not so keen. If he’s got pace and nothing else his pace isn’t worth a wank. What did gilliead and Connolly offer other than pace? Fuck all
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Post by Lofty on Jul 18, 2020 14:08:54 GMT
Pace is good. I like pace. Give me pace over height any day. Pace for pace’s sake though, I’m not so keen. If he’s got pace and nothing else his pace isn’t worth a wank. What did gilliead and Connolly offer other than pace? Fuck all And they were both shit and thought of as such. A Mark Marshall, pace, skill and end product, is a different kettle of fish.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 18, 2020 14:19:06 GMT
Pace is good. I like pace. Give me pace over height any day. Pace for pace’s sake though, I’m not so keen. If he’s got pace and nothing else his pace isn’t worth a wank. What did gilliead and Connolly offer other than pace? Fuck all Are you agreeing with me?
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jul 18, 2020 14:26:39 GMT
Lol, your a bunch half wits aren’t you. He’s the only winger we’ve got, no in fact the only player we’ve got with any pace at all. This team is in real need of some pace, that’s all a gillz and connellsys had, and it made them good enough to have an impact. Don’t get me wrong, this signing doesn’t have me bouncing off the walls and ordering the bunting for our promotion party, but it’s not a terrible signing. It does probably confirm we’re set to be in this league for some time to come. Rupp wont spend the cash. So having football ability isn't necessary?
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Post by moshimoshi on Jul 18, 2020 17:16:06 GMT
What did gilliead and Connolly offer other than pace? Fuck all Are you agreeing with me? Point being those players main attribute was pace and it was enough for them to make an impact, often more of an impact than the rest of the useless twats
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 18, 2020 17:32:24 GMT
Are you agreeing with me? Point being those players main attribute was pace and it was enough for them to make an impact, often more of an impact than the rest of the useless twats Comparing players to such a low bar to make your point doesn’t really prove much. We’d collected so much shite we could make two third of the players in that league look good. This is how following City skews your expectations and player assessments. The worse we get, the better just being mediocre looks.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jul 18, 2020 17:48:41 GMT
Are you agreeing with me? Point being those players main attribute was pace and it was enough for them to make an impact, often more of an impact than the rest of the useless twats They didn't make an impact, you could argue Gillead was popular because he did play a little more football than the others but they will all be playing non league in the next 18months
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Post by Hoochy on Jul 18, 2020 18:09:37 GMT
Why do we fill up the squad with players that could do a job from the bench. Have we not got a pacey winger in the youth team who could do that? If not why not?
3 or 4 squaddies could be 1 really good player.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jul 18, 2020 18:19:33 GMT
Why do we fill up the squad with players that could do a job from the bench. Have we not got a pacey winger in the youth team who could do that? If not why not? 3 or 4 squaddies could be 1 really good player. Why not ? Really?
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 18, 2020 18:38:34 GMT
Why do we fill up the squad with players that could do a job from the bench. Have we not got a pacey winger in the youth team who could do that? If not why not? 3 or 4 squaddies could be 1 really good player. ‘Squad player’ = not really up to the job and the signings to come will relegate the ‘squad player’ we just signed to the fringes. Pointless player. Could do a job from the bench = limited skill set that might prove useful if a very narrow set of parameters are met. Plays for the shirt = limited or deficient skill set but runs around a lot. Puts in a shift = shit player. Knows the club = shit but we’ve signed him before. Trust the manager = worrying signing. Has presence = tall. Character in the dressing room = shit player who may or may not be a character in the dressing room but running out of ways to defend said player.
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Post by Dick on Jul 18, 2020 18:48:27 GMT
I saw someone on twitter call DMH 'a great squad player'.
We shouldn't be looking at 'great squad players' - we need proper first choicers.
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Post by Neshead on Jul 18, 2020 19:04:54 GMT
Why do we fill up the squad with players that could do a job from the bench. Have we not got a pacey winger in the youth team who could do that? If not why not? 3 or 4 squaddies could be 1 really good player. This was a question i was asked today. Do we bring in a cheap player or do we add his wages onto another to bring in a better player. No brainer. Yet some of our fans think we can bring in players on 7/800 a week and they'll tear it up. 'Potential'.
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Post by Neshead on Jul 18, 2020 19:11:30 GMT
Why do we fill up the squad with players that could do a job from the bench. Have we not got a pacey winger in the youth team who could do that? If not why not? 3 or 4 squaddies could be 1 really good player. ‘Squad player’ = not really up to the job and the signings to come will relegate the ‘squad player’ we just signed to the fringes. Pointless player. Could do a job from the bench = limited skill set that might prove useful if a very narrow set of parameters are met. Plays for the shirt = limited or deficient skill set but runs around a lot. Puts in a shift = shit player. Knows the club = shit but we’ve signed him before. Trust the manager = worrying signing. Has presence = tall. Character in the dressing room = shit player who may or may not be a character in the dressing room but running out of ways to defend said player. You can make a decent enough team at this level with some of the above but you have to throw a gem or two into the mix. Anyone remember how shit we looked in league 1 until Josh Cullen came along, or how Reece Burke and Lee Evans looked a level above everyone else after 5 minutes of watching them. No surprise all are playing at championship level (Burke for not much longer mind). Last time we were in league 2, even in the promotion season we were a pretty average footballing side. We happened to have a rock solid defence, a leader in Gary Jones and a get out of jail free card in Nahki Wells. At this moment we have none of those, the defence bar Wood is shite, the midfield general is non existent and we're all hoping Vaughan can do the Wells role. Thats if he's still here, which if someone comes offering the folding stuff he won't be.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 18, 2020 19:14:47 GMT
I saw someone on twitter call DMH 'a great squad player'. We shouldn't be looking at 'great squad players' - we need proper first choicers. The idea that this even needs saying is nuts.
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Post by Hobhead on Jul 18, 2020 19:17:24 GMT
‘Squad player’ = not really up to the job and the signings to come will relegate the ‘squad player’ we just signed to the fringes. Pointless player. Could do a job from the bench = limited skill set that might prove useful if a very narrow set of parameters are met. Plays for the shirt = limited or deficient skill set but runs around a lot. Puts in a shift = shit player. Knows the club = shit but we’ve signed him before. Trust the manager = worrying signing. Has presence = tall. Character in the dressing room = shit player who may or may not be a character in the dressing room but running out of ways to defend said player. You can make a decent enough team at this level with some of the above but you have to throw a gem or two into the mix. Anyone remember how shit we looked in league 1 until Josh Cullen came along, or how Reece Burke and Lee Evans looked a level above everyone else after 5 minutes of watching them. No surprise all are playing at championship level (Burke for not much longer mind). Last time we were in league 2, even in the promotion season we were a pretty average footballing side. We happened to have a rock solid defence, a leader in Gary Jones and a get out of jail free card in Nahki Wells. At this moment we have none of those, the defence bar Wood is shite, the midfield general is non existent and we're all hoping Vaughan can do the Wells role. Thats if he's still here, which if someone comes offering the folding stuff he won't be. What I mean though is the way these labels are immediately applied to new signings in order to rationalise the way we’re signing substandard shit again. It’s a crutch and a reflex action by people who know what we’re doing but can’t even admit it to themselves.
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Post by Hoochy on Jul 18, 2020 19:45:21 GMT
You can make a decent enough team at this level with some of the above but you have to throw a gem or two into the mix. Anyone remember how shit we looked in league 1 until Josh Cullen came along, or how Reece Burke and Lee Evans looked a level above everyone else after 5 minutes of watching them. No surprise all are playing at championship level (Burke for not much longer mind). Last time we were in league 2, even in the promotion season we were a pretty average footballing side. We happened to have a rock solid defence, a leader in Gary Jones and a get out of jail free card in Nahki Wells. At this moment we have none of those, the defence bar Wood is shite, the midfield general is non existent and we're all hoping Vaughan can do the Wells role. Thats if he's still here, which if someone comes offering the folding stuff he won't be. What I mean though is the way these labels are immediately applied to new signings in order to rationalise the way we’re signing substandard shit again. It’s a crutch and a reflex action by people who know what we’re doing but can’t even admit it to themselves. In the words of Prefab Sprout, the lies we tell, they only serve to fool ourselves. And you can't get a much better judge of 21st century Bradfordians than Prefab Sprout.
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Post by Hoochy on Jul 18, 2020 19:49:45 GMT
‘Squad player’ = not really up to the job and the signings to come will relegate the ‘squad player’ we just signed to the fringes. Pointless player. Could do a job from the bench = limited skill set that might prove useful if a very narrow set of parameters are met. Plays for the shirt = limited or deficient skill set but runs around a lot. Puts in a shift = shit player. Knows the club = shit but we’ve signed him before. Trust the manager = worrying signing. Has presence = tall. Character in the dressing room = shit player who may or may not be a character in the dressing room but running out of ways to defend said player. You can make a decent enough team at this level with some of the above but you have to throw a gem or two into the mix. Anyone remember how shit we looked in league 1 until Josh Cullen came along, or how Reece Burke and Lee Evans looked a level above everyone else after 5 minutes of watching them. No surprise all are playing at championship level (Burke for not much longer mind). Last time we were in league 2, even in the promotion season we were a pretty average footballing side. We happened to have a rock solid defence, a leader in Gary Jones and a get out of jail free card in Nahki Wells. At this moment we have none of those, the defence bar Wood is shite, the midfield general is non existent and we're all hoping Vaughan can do the Wells role. Thats if he's still here, which if someone comes offering the folding stuff he won't be. Is it right that U21s don't have to be included in the wage cap? That's where your bench warmers and potential players should be. Spend the £1.5m on 17 or 18 proper players and that gives you more than £1k a week to spend on them.
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Post by Neshead on Jul 18, 2020 20:02:03 GMT
You can make a decent enough team at this level with some of the above but you have to throw a gem or two into the mix. Anyone remember how shit we looked in league 1 until Josh Cullen came along, or how Reece Burke and Lee Evans looked a level above everyone else after 5 minutes of watching them. No surprise all are playing at championship level (Burke for not much longer mind). Last time we were in league 2, even in the promotion season we were a pretty average footballing side. We happened to have a rock solid defence, a leader in Gary Jones and a get out of jail free card in Nahki Wells. At this moment we have none of those, the defence bar Wood is shite, the midfield general is non existent and we're all hoping Vaughan can do the Wells role. Thats if he's still here, which if someone comes offering the folding stuff he won't be. What I mean though is the way these labels are immediately applied to new signings in order to rationalise the way we’re signing substandard shit again. It’s a crutch and a reflex action by people who know what we’re doing but can’t even admit it to themselves. I understand where you were coming from, its like an inbuilt defence mechanism that gompers have. Daring to question anything about the club triggers the response, like they are standing up for their bullied mate. I wish these people would realise deep down we want whats best for the club. And that ain't swimming around the shitpool in league 2. Cos i have no interest in watching us mince around the pitch at places like Morecambe and Stevenage. I want games against Sheffield utd (yeah i know) and Huddersfield, away trips to Derby and Forest. Pardon me for not getting a hard on at the thought of a pint of real ale in fucking Barrow.
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Post by Dick on Jul 18, 2020 20:29:46 GMT
I saw someone on twitter call DMH 'a great squad player'. We shouldn't be looking at 'great squad players' - we need proper first choicers. The idea that this even needs saying is nuts. Exactly - if he was a great squad player, he should be a first choicer by default? With a squad size of 22 next year, you'll have a first 11, 6 subs and so 5 players not in a match day squad. That's not a lot - DMH is not going to be one of the 5. IMO he'll be moulded into being a first teamer as soon as possible.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Jul 18, 2020 21:53:55 GMT
Why do we fill up the squad with players that could do a job from the bench. Have we not got a pacey winger in the youth team who could do that? If not why not? 3 or 4 squaddies could be 1 really good player. Didn’t we have a young blond lad on left wing like this? Elliott sumat maybe? I can’t remember. Did we let him go I take it?
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