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Post by Neshead on Jun 30, 2020 16:25:31 GMT
Something which was and is being discussed at length on twitter, just seen this on there now from a posh fan
And we have fans stating that signficant numbers of our fan base will trun their backs on the club if we raise the ticket price from £149. No wonder we have no ambition, just a drop place for people with nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon as long as its cheap as chips.
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jun 30, 2020 16:31:34 GMT
Something which was and is being discussed at length on twitter, just seen this on there now from a posh fan And we have fans stating that signficant numbers of our fan base will trun their backs on the club if we raise the ticket price from £149. No wonder we have no ambition, just a drop place for people with nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon as long as its cheap as chips. Our fans are tight as fuck, they're all getting a bit teary at the suggestion of 10 quid a game. Put them up to the posh prices and we would be back down 4000. Personally at this level without Rhodes spending the money I'd be happy paying 300. Right now they're not getting another penny from me
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Post by Neshead on Jun 30, 2020 16:41:56 GMT
Something which was and is being discussed at length on twitter, just seen this on there now from a posh fan And we have fans stating that signficant numbers of our fan base will trun their backs on the club if we raise the ticket price from £149. No wonder we have no ambition, just a drop place for people with nothing better to do on a Saturday afternoon as long as its cheap as chips. Our fans are tight as fuck, they're all getting a bit teary at the suggestion of 10 quid a game. Put them up to the posh prices and we would be back down 4000. Personally at this level without Rhodes spending the money I'd be happy paying 300. Right now they're not getting another penny from me As a club we could never charge anywhere near the price quoted by the posh fan but £149 is a suicide business model. This idea that we would lose merchandise and food sales by people not renewing if we put the price up is just utter shite. The fans that buy such items as shirts are genuine fans of the club, putting ticket prices up will not make difference to that. Same with the food sales, although why anybody eats the shite served up there is beyond belief. We don't make much from shirt sales anyway, its only a few quid profit per shirt after evryones had a slice of the profit. If we are just trying to attract people with fuck all better to do i don't want owt to do with that. I want fans here because they want to be here to support the club, not because we portray ourselves as some charity basket case.
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Post by Hobhead on Jun 30, 2020 16:44:05 GMT
The prices are just one part of it. Putting prices up isn’t a solution as it’ll just mean under the way we work we’ll just have more money to piss away. If we’re putting prices up then we, as fans, need to know that the money made will be put to good use. Otherwise it’s just the club grifting and for it not to be all depends on us getting our house in order.
Similarly low prices could work if marketed properly. Rupp could decide to make the investment we so desperately need and the club (without being specific) could start making noises about going for it the following season. Announce there’ll be no deadline and that fans are welcome to wait before committing. Create an atmosphere of anticipation with a confident attitude of ‘we’ll show you’ and we’re a couple of decent signings away from building some serious anticipation for the season ahead.
Sales would skyrocket on the back of it and, following the inevitable successful season and promotion, we could use that as a springboard to raise prices without losing take up. At the risk of repeating myself, this won’t happen before we get our shit together.
Back in the real world and all we’re hearing is how hard it’s going to be post Covid, how we’re relying on the youth team to pad out the squad and how we’re only looking to sign five players, all of whom may or may not be loans. Its hardly dynamic in either strategy or marketing.
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Post by mikehunt on Jun 30, 2020 18:00:36 GMT
The ticket prices should have gone up when the feel good factor was around before Rupp and Rahic arrived. Missed the opportunity, a miserable club, talking about relying on youth and a handful of bargain basement signings like Hobhead says, nobody in their right mind is buying at an inflated price.
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Post by Neshead on Jun 30, 2020 18:34:11 GMT
The ticket prices should have gone up when the feel good factor was around before Rupp and Rahic arrived. Missed the opportunity, a miserable club, talking about relying on youth and a handful of bargain basement signings like Hobhead says, nobody in their right mind is buying at an inflated price. Like i said on TCA twitter, dropping the prices way lower than even your nearest rival wasn't for the benefit of rewarding you loyal supporters out there for your undying support, it was an act of desperation, a last throw of the dice as your supportdwindles away with idea being that you try and rebuild a fan base. Entice them in, dangle the carrot, then when the going is good, hit them in the pocket when ou know the product is attracting interest. That time was in league 1 after years of sustained growth. No fan in their right man would begrudge paying more out watching the likes of Cullen, Burke and Marshall raising the standard. But no, our mantra now is well and truly is who cares what the football is like, its affordable. Don't matter its league 2 and absolute shite, its cheap. What the hell do you want for £149? Ambition?
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Post by mikehunt on Jun 30, 2020 18:49:02 GMT
The ticket prices should have gone up when the feel good factor was around before Rupp and Rahic arrived. Missed the opportunity, a miserable club, talking about relying on youth and a handful of bargain basement signings like Hobhead says, nobody in their right mind is buying at an inflated price. Like i said on TCA twitter, dropping the prices way lower than even your nearest rival wasn't for the benefit of rewarding you loyal supporters out there for your undying support, it was an act of desperation, a last throw of the dice as your supportdwindles away with idea being that you try and rebuild a fan base. Entice them in, dangle the carrot, then when the going is good, hit them in the pocket when ou know the product is attracting interest. That time was in league 1 after years of sustained growth. No fan in their right man would begrudge paying more out watching the likes of Cullen, Burke and Marshall raising the standard. But no, our mantra now is well and truly is who cares what the football is like, its affordable. Don't matter its league 2 and absolute shite, its cheap. What the hell do you want for £149? Ambition? £149 was a bargain a decade ago, to have that price today is crazy, it’s locked in now, there’s no way in can be increased until they’re back to the top of League one
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Post by Neshead on Jun 30, 2020 19:20:20 GMT
Like i said on TCA twitter, dropping the prices way lower than even your nearest rival wasn't for the benefit of rewarding you loyal supporters out there for your undying support, it was an act of desperation, a last throw of the dice as your supportdwindles away with idea being that you try and rebuild a fan base. Entice them in, dangle the carrot, then when the going is good, hit them in the pocket when ou know the product is attracting interest. That time was in league 1 after years of sustained growth. No fan in their right man would begrudge paying more out watching the likes of Cullen, Burke and Marshall raising the standard. But no, our mantra now is well and truly is who cares what the football is like, its affordable. Don't matter its league 2 and absolute shite, its cheap. What the hell do you want for £149? Ambition? £149 was a bargain a decade ago, to have that price today is crazy, it’s locked in now, there’s no way in can be increased until they’re back to the top of League one Exactly, we now have a fan base rolling their eyes at a possible small price increase, they really do think £149 is the norm. Go and have a look at prices elsewhere for a dose of reality. In a lot of cases we have over double the amount of season tickets yet the incomes with other clubs remains in the same ball park. I've even seen mentioned that doubling our prices wouldn't make any difference, we still wouldn't be able to compete. Well lets just churn tickets out a 50 quid a pop if it doesn't fucking matter. We'll just ask Stefan to shake the magic money tree to pay for those new players and ground improvements.
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Post by mikehunt on Jun 30, 2020 19:37:20 GMT
£149 was a bargain a decade ago, to have that price today is crazy, it’s locked in now, there’s no way in can be increased until they’re back to the top of League one Exactly, we now have a fan base rolling their eyes at a possible small price increase, they really do think £149 is the norm. Go and have a look at prices elsewhere for a dose of reality. In a lot of cases we have over double the amount of season tickets yet the incomes with other clubs remains in the same ball park. I've even seen mentioned that doubling our prices wouldn't make any difference, we still wouldn't be able to compete. Well lets just churn tickets out a 50 quid a pop if it doesn't fucking matter. We'll just ask Stefan to shake the magic money tree to pay for those new players and ground improvements. Tamworth charged £240 early bird price for adults in the Southern Premier tier 7 last season, Halifax £299 for 2020/21, Harrogate £284, York £320 in tier 6 And some of our fans chunter at an extra £20.
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Post by Hobhead on Jun 30, 2020 19:41:41 GMT
I’d baulk at an extra penny. Giving money to our incompetents is like rolling pound coins down the drain.
Run the shitshow properly and I’ll come back and pay more.
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Post by Dick on Jun 30, 2020 20:02:10 GMT
Always said we should never have kept cheap tickets. We've had them so long it's seen as the norm, not a privilege. And flexis are pointless as they cheapen the core product, already super cheap.
If they were so great other teams with similar problems would have adopted them.
Also think a chunk of our fans don't trust our club with money. We make one constant bad investment after another - on and off the pitch. We'll buy magic beans off the first person who tries to sell it.
They should have increased the prices after losing at Wembley. At least the stock was high and we were only a few players away from smashing the legaue the season after.
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Post by Neshead on Jun 30, 2020 20:19:46 GMT
Exactly, we now have a fan base rolling their eyes at a possible small price increase, they really do think £149 is the norm. Go and have a look at prices elsewhere for a dose of reality. In a lot of cases we have over double the amount of season tickets yet the incomes with other clubs remains in the same ball park. I've even seen mentioned that doubling our prices wouldn't make any difference, we still wouldn't be able to compete. Well lets just churn tickets out a 50 quid a pop if it doesn't fucking matter. We'll just ask Stefan to shake the magic money tree to pay for those new players and ground improvements. Tamworth charged £240 early bird price for adults in the Southern Premier tier 7 last season, Halifax £299 for 2020/21, Harrogate £284, York £320 in tier 6 And some of our fans chunter at an extra £20. I'm still trying to work out , with no success, what would stop a fan purchasing a season ticket at £200 but not £150. I get the reply of i'm not paying £200 to watch shite. But you'd pay £150? Why? The footballs shite ruining a Saturday afternoon but go on, i'll sign up for another year because its £6.52 a game as opposed to £8.69. I just don't believe a difference of just over £2 quid a game is going to disuade a disgruntled fan from renewing. Most of the lads i know didn't renew because the club has become a running joke, but if that was reversed they would have no problem paying £200 to to £230. Christ i used to pay more than that t watch the Bulls, but it was a damn sight more entertaining.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Jun 30, 2020 20:42:43 GMT
Like i said on TCA twitter, dropping the prices way lower than even your nearest rival wasn't for the benefit of rewarding you loyal supporters out there for your undying support, it was an act of desperation, a last throw of the dice as your supportdwindles away with idea being that you try and rebuild a fan base. Entice them in, dangle the carrot, then when the going is good, hit them in the pocket when ou know the product is attracting interest. That time was in league 1 after years of sustained growth. No fan in their right man would begrudge paying more out watching the likes of Cullen, Burke and Marshall raising the standard. But no, our mantra now is well and truly is who cares what the football is like, its affordable. Don't matter its league 2 and absolute shite, its cheap. What the hell do you want for £149? Ambition? £149 was a bargain a decade ago, to have that price today is crazy, it’s locked in now, there’s no way in can be increased until they’re back to the top of League one Allowing for inflation £150 yen years ago is £200 now.
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Post by hobbes on Jun 30, 2020 22:32:14 GMT
Tamworth charged £240 early bird price for adults in the Southern Premier tier 7 last season, Halifax £299 for 2020/21, Harrogate £284, York £320 in tier 6 And some of our fans chunter at an extra £20. I'm still trying to work out , with no success, what would stop a fan purchasing a season ticket at £200 but not £150. I get the reply of i'm not paying £200 to watch shite. But you'd pay £150? Why? The footballs shite ruining a Saturday afternoon but go on, i'll sign up for another year because its £6.52 a game as opposed to £8.69. I just don't believe a difference of just over £2 quid a game is going to disuade a disgruntled fan from renewing. Most of the lads i know didn't renew because the club has become a running joke, but if that was reversed they would have no problem paying £200 to to £230. Christ i used to pay more than that t watch the Bulls, but it was a damn sight more entertaining. £50 is a mid range night out on the piss, or a reasonable meal for a family of three. It's a (relatively cheap) pair of Jean's or trainers. I agree, if you cant stretch to that, its bit fucking sad. And I get there are some for who finding £200 for a non essential thing is a bit tough, but how come every other fucking club can find enough to fill a ground?
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Post by akpanisgoneyippeee on Jun 30, 2020 23:25:45 GMT
With restrictions in place it'll be 6/7k max in the stadium so just make it £250/300 simple, same income with added bonus of fkn off the scruffy c@nts. Enough happy to have a club gompers wil still pay it so all good
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Post by mikehunt on Jul 1, 2020 6:45:20 GMT
I'm still trying to work out , with no success, what would stop a fan purchasing a season ticket at £200 but not £150. I get the reply of i'm not paying £200 to watch shite. But you'd pay £150? Why? The footballs shite ruining a Saturday afternoon but go on, i'll sign up for another year because its £6.52 a game as opposed to £8.69. I just don't believe a difference of just over £2 quid a game is going to disuade a disgruntled fan from renewing. Most of the lads i know didn't renew because the club has become a running joke, but if that was reversed they would have no problem paying £200 to to £230. Christ i used to pay more than that t watch the Bulls, but it was a damn sight more entertaining. £50 is a mid range night out on the piss, or a reasonable meal for a family of three. It's a (relatively cheap) pair of Jean's or trainers. I agree, if you cant stretch to that, its bit fucking sad. And I get there are some for who finding £200 for a non essential thing is a bit tough, but how come every other fucking club can find enough to fill a ground? You can pay over nine months. £149 is £16.56 a month, £199 is £22.11. If you can’t afford the extra £5.55 a month you can’t afford the £149 season ticket. bUt whaT aBoUt tHosE wHO haVe TO bUy MorE tHAN oNe?
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Post by Lethal Jizzle on Jul 1, 2020 8:56:50 GMT
£50 is a mid range night out on the piss, or a reasonable meal for a family of three. It's a (relatively cheap) pair of Jean's or trainers. I agree, if you cant stretch to that, its bit fucking sad. And I get there are some for who finding £200 for a non essential thing is a bit tough, but how come every other fucking club can find enough to fill a ground? You can pay over nine months. £149 is £16.56 a month, £199 is £22.11. If you can’t afford the extra £5.55 a month you can’t afford the £149 season ticket. bUt whaT aBoUt tHosE wHO haVe TO bUy MorE tHAN oNe? Said it all along if you can't afford a tenner a game then football shouldn't be high on your agenda. This lockdown will have shown people how much they waste on shite and that 150 is nothing.
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Post by Dick on Jul 1, 2020 9:44:01 GMT
"But what about those who can't afford more than £149? It wouldn't be fair on them."
Things in life cost money. For one thing it help you actually look to better yourself, your earning potential and more luxurious / non essential things.
If you think £149 / £199 is expensive as broken down in the example above then you should stop pissing money away on other things or get a better paying job.
Too many have allowed football to become a right because the tickets are cheap.
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Post by mikehunt on Jul 1, 2020 10:36:36 GMT
"But what about those who can't afford more than £149? It wouldn't be fair on them." Things in life cost money. For one thing it help you actually look to better yourself, your earning potential and more luxurious / non essential things. If you think £149 / £199 is expensive as broken down in the example above then you should stop pissing money away on other things or get a better paying job. Too many have allowed football to become a right because the tickets are cheap. I can’t afford a new AMG Mercedes E class estate and those fuckers in Stuttgart aren’t being fair on me. Life is unfair. Some things you can afford and somethings you can’t. Sooner you get used to that the better.
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Post by Dick on Jul 1, 2020 10:57:42 GMT
"But what about those who can't afford more than £149? It wouldn't be fair on them." Things in life cost money. For one thing it help you actually look to better yourself, your earning potential and more luxurious / non essential things. If you think £149 / £199 is expensive as broken down in the example above then you should stop pissing money away on other things or get a better paying job. Too many have allowed football to become a right because the tickets are cheap. I can’t afford a new AMG Mercedes E class estate and those fuckers in Stuttgart aren’t being fair on me. Life is unfair. Some things you can afford and somethings you can’t. Sooner you get used to that the better. I always see people sticking up for those who 'can't afford it'. Save up / spend wisely. That's pretty much it. I read once poor people are because they make bad decisions with money - for the most part that's definitely true. Example - me and wife's phone contracts both expired in the last couple of months. They were new 2 years ago and still work fine. Changed to a sim-only £10 p/m for each of us. Was £80 p/m before. Haggled a few other bills / subscriptions during lockdown (not things like mortgage holidays etc). As I'm WFH I cancelled my software licenses (for my own personal use) and use theirs. Just that alone has saved us £200 a month. Cancelled the TV license as we use other services - another £155 saved this month also. Quick wins. We're not desperate for cash but you wonder what you've actually been paying for when you have time to work it out.
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