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Post by mikehunt on May 7, 2020 15:07:17 GMT
Actually, any other industry this would be standard share issue territory. If the club want fans to support them financially then what happens when we sell a prospect for millions, or the club goes on a wonderful run to the Championship and Rupp sells up for a massive profit? Where’s the love going in the other direction then? They did something other year, maybe before Christmas, with money can’t normally buy things, framed signed match worn shirt for £150, register as a player and be in the team photo for £250. That’s ok. A direct debit for £20 a month with nowt back as someone suggested is a joke.
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Post by bantam147 on May 7, 2020 15:21:21 GMT
And yet they all still tune in. And when it comes to breaking inside info, who gets it? So many of our fans are cunts. Not good cunts, like us. Bad cunts, like Cougar.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on May 7, 2020 15:24:12 GMT
It’s incredibly funny that people disregard an argument because the person making it used a naughty word.
You’re supposed to be adults, you cunts.
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Post by bantam147 on May 7, 2020 15:25:13 GMT
If this club was worth backing financially, I’d do it. I really would. I’m still choosing to pay £15 a month to my gym which I can’t use, to make sure its there when shit gets sorted - because it gives me value and is always looking to improve. But despite following this club for 30+ years, I won’t do it for this shower. Maybe The club should have a think about that. Not because what I say or do matters - but because there’ll be so many others like me.
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on May 7, 2020 15:26:14 GMT
Just been on BroncoTalk to read how the statement went down with the cunts on there, and I don’t know if it’s all you cunts, but there’s a lot of cunts on there talking about shares and bonds.
Lololol.
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Post by Hobhead on May 7, 2020 15:29:54 GMT
Just been on BroncoTalk to read how the statement went down with the cunts on there, and I don’t know if it’s all you cunts, but there’s a lot of cunts on there talking about shares and bonds. Lololol. Where we lead, they follow. They pretend to look down their noses at us, steal all the best stuff then claim they came up with it first. See Bronco and the Rahic Out saga.
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Post by Hobhead on May 7, 2020 15:30:42 GMT
If this club was worth backing financially, I’d do it. I really would. I’m still choosing to pay £15 a month to my gym which I can’t use, to make sure its there when shit gets sorted - because it gives me value and is always looking to improve. But despite following this club for 30+ years, I won’t do it for this shower. Maybe The club should have a think about that. Not because what I say or do matters - but because there’ll be so many others like me. Serious question: would you make that commitment if it were going toward fan ownership?
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on May 7, 2020 15:34:17 GMT
Just been on BroncoTalk to read how the statement went down with the cunts on there, and I don’t know if it’s all you cunts, but there’s a lot of cunts on there talking about shares and bonds. Lololol. Where we lead, they follow. They pretend to look down their noses at us, steal all the best stuff then claim they came up with it first. See Bronco and the Rahic Out saga. That was so funny.
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Post by Bacon on May 7, 2020 15:39:48 GMT
If this club was worth backing financially, I’d do it. I really would. I’m still choosing to pay £15 a month to my gym which I can’t use, to make sure its there when shit gets sorted - because it gives me value and is always looking to improve. But despite following this club for 30+ years, I won’t do it for this shower. Maybe The club should have a think about that. Not because what I say or do matters - but because there’ll be so many others like me. Serious question: would you make that commitment if it were going toward fan ownership? If I knew that I had a job once all this is over I'd put in yes, if it gave me a stake and a say. If it were a proper community club as it should be, yes.
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Post by bantam147 on May 7, 2020 17:38:55 GMT
If this club was worth backing financially, I’d do it. I really would. I’m still choosing to pay £15 a month to my gym which I can’t use, to make sure its there when shit gets sorted - because it gives me value and is always looking to improve. But despite following this club for 30+ years, I won’t do it for this shower. Maybe The club should have a think about that. Not because what I say or do matters - but because there’ll be so many others like me. Serious question: would you make that commitment if it were going toward fan ownership? I like the idea of fan ownership. So in principle, yes. But itd need a bit of money behind it and at the very least, a good model for running the club. And I'd genuinely be interested in being part of it. Piss-taking aside, I have some transferable skills and I'm sure other fans would be in a similar position.
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Post by Hobhead on May 7, 2020 17:47:53 GMT
Serious question: would you make that commitment if it were going toward fan ownership? I like the idea of fan ownership. So in principle, yes. But itd need a bit of money behind it and at the very least, a good model for running the club. And I'd genuinely be interested in being part of it. Piss-taking aside, I have some transferable skills and I'm sure other fans would be in a similar position. Is there any way to do it which is more a representative basis with access to stuff that would be in the fans’ interest as opposed to full shareholding board members? Fully fledged part ownership is a bit of a minefield but at the same time the whole donating to a private business while the owner takes windfalls out to cover shortfalls that later turn into loans thing kind of sticks in the neck. When the begging bowl comes (which it surely will) I think fans need to see it as an opportunity.
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Post by claw on May 7, 2020 17:53:50 GMT
"Dislikes Tories, Brexit and religion" Lol. Saddo. I’ve give him a follow.
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Post by bantam147 on May 7, 2020 17:57:45 GMT
I like the idea of fan ownership. So in principle, yes. But itd need a bit of money behind it and at the very least, a good model for running the club. And I'd genuinely be interested in being part of it. Piss-taking aside, I have some transferable skills and I'm sure other fans would be in a similar position. Is there any way to do it which is more a representative basis with access to stuff that would be in the fans’ interest as opposed to full shareholding board members? Fully fledged part ownership is a bit of a minefield but at the same time the whole donating to a private business while the owner takes windfalls out to cover shortfalls that later turn into loans thing kind of sticks in the neck. When the begging bowl comes (which it surely will) I think fans need to see it as an opportunity. It's a great point. This club has been dying on its arse for years. Its desperate for change. A partial share sale to customers, even of that stake were ring fenced in some way. Here's a thought, a share based ownership in our scouting system. Any shareholders qualify for a % of player sales revenue. With the furlough system, I just dont buy that we're massively out of pocket - yet. A quality professional scouting service is about 200k a year I believe, relative to our level. I'm sure I read that somewhere. Fans buy a yearly 'subscription' to that service, which funds the club being able to do it. Any players signed that year - if they're later sold, theres a 20% profit dividend to all 'shareholders'. Probabky a bollocks idea. I've been drinking. Let's try summat though FFS
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on May 7, 2020 18:47:59 GMT
Is there any way to do it which is more a representative basis with access to stuff that would be in the fans’ interest as opposed to full shareholding board members? Fully fledged part ownership is a bit of a minefield but at the same time the whole donating to a private business while the owner takes windfalls out to cover shortfalls that later turn into loans thing kind of sticks in the neck. When the begging bowl comes (which it surely will) I think fans need to see it as an opportunity. It's a great point. This club has been dying on its arse for years. Its desperate for change. A partial share sale to customers, even of that stake were ring fenced in some way. Here's a thought, a share based ownership in our scouting system. Any shareholders qualify for a % of player sales revenue. With the furlough system, I just dont buy that we're massively out of pocket - yet. A quality professional scouting service is about 200k a year I believe, relative to our level. I'm sure I read that somewhere. Fans buy a yearly 'subscription' to that service, which funds the club being able to do it. Any players signed that year - if they're later sold, theres a 20% profit dividend to all 'shareholders'. Probabky a bollocks idea. I've been drinking. Let's try summat though FFS Alcohols showing in yr maths, concept might have legs though.
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Post by mikehunt on May 7, 2020 21:12:32 GMT
Is there any way to do it which is more a representative basis with access to stuff that would be in the fans’ interest as opposed to full shareholding board members? Fully fledged part ownership is a bit of a minefield but at the same time the whole donating to a private business while the owner takes windfalls out to cover shortfalls that later turn into loans thing kind of sticks in the neck. When the begging bowl comes (which it surely will) I think fans need to see it as an opportunity. It's a great point. This club has been dying on its arse for years. Its desperate for change. A partial share sale to customers, even of that stake were ring fenced in some way. Here's a thought, a share based ownership in our scouting system. Any shareholders qualify for a % of player sales revenue. With the furlough system, I just dont buy that we're massively out of pocket - yet. A quality professional scouting service is about 200k a year I believe, relative to our level. I'm sure I read that somewhere. Fans buy a yearly 'subscription' to that service, which funds the club being able to do it. Any players signed that year - if they're later sold, theres a 20% profit dividend to all 'shareholders'. Probabky a bollocks idea. I've been drinking. Let's try summat though FFS Think about that. £200k for a quality professional scouting service or £200k for Hope Akpan each year? If McKeown is looking for positive suggestions. There’s one. Stop wasting money on shit.
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Post by fish on May 7, 2020 21:44:03 GMT
I've read it twice and I'm still none the wiser as to what the fuck is going on.
On the one hand we should be grateful that uncle stefan is here to bail us out, but on the other he won't fund us until this is over, most likely only until the furlough scheme ends, so the buckets will be out in the morning.
It's just a page full of waffle. A small, tiny part of me hoped to see some sort of long term plan/solution to get us out of this mess and become more self sustainable as a club. Instead captain admin thinks self sustainability is giving the manager as much money as possible and hoping for the best. And even then the most we can hope to achieve is a cup upset which will go back towards plugging the deficit.
And don't get me started on his "embarrassed to be talking about football comment." What a moronic thing to say. I mean it doesn't even make any sense. This cunt is CEO of a business and is now embarrassed to talk about how his business will survive an economic disaster and convey that to his customers. Was the Morrisons CEO embarrased to talk about the shortage of shit roll just because "people are dying"? Was he fuck, because business and life goes on and if he is embarrassed to talk about his duties and responsibilities then fuck off and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
This high horse attitude people have developed during this shite has really fucked me off. Let's not talk about anything other than corona because people are dying. Where's this energy for the tens of thousands that die every year? Of cancer? Nah, those are the same cunts smoking 50 fags a day and clapping out their windows at 8PM like a seal every thursday. Wankers.
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Post by Hobhead on May 7, 2020 22:29:48 GMT
I've read it twice and I'm still none the wiser as to what the fuck is going on. On the one hand we should be grateful that uncle stefan is here to bail us out, but on the other he won't fund us until this is over, most likely only until the furlough scheme ends, so the buckets will be out in the morning. It's just a page full of waffle. A small, tiny part of me hoped to see some sort of long term plan/solution to get us out of this mess and become more self sustainable as a club. Instead captain admin thinks self sustainability is giving the manager as much money as possible and hoping for the best. And even then the most we can hope to achieve is a cup upset which will go back towards plugging the deficit. And don't get me started on his "embarrassed to be talking about football comment." What a moronic thing to say. I mean it doesn't even make any sense. This cunt is CEO of a business and is now embarrassed to talk about how his business will survive an economic disaster and convey that to his customers. Was the Morrisons CEO embarrased to talk about the shortage of shit roll just because "people are dying"? Was he fuck, because business and life goes on and if he is embarrassed to talk about his duties and responsibilities then fuck off and don't let the door hit you on the way out. This high horse attitude people have developed during this shite has really fucked me off. Let's not talk about anything other than corona because people are dying. Where's this energy for the tens of thousands that die every year? Of cancer? Nah, those are the same cunts smoking 50 fags a day and clapping out their windows at 8PM like a seal every thursday. Wankers. Leave it all out there on the dancefloor, hen!
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Post by citygentile on May 8, 2020 15:05:37 GMT
Julian knows there's going to be very little cash raised at the moment. A team/club with nothing going for it and a dwindling supporter base on the edge of a global recession means barely 50p going spare, anywhere.
I reckon he's been sat at home scheming during this lockdown. Looking through his wardrobe for his Captain Admin costume.
"Look Stefan, you might as well put the club in admin now. It's obvious that nobody gives a shit any longer."
The club goes into admin and in he swoops for the hat trick!
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