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Dec 3, 2020 13:55:33 GMT
Post by Hobhead on Dec 3, 2020 13:55:33 GMT
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Dec 6, 2020 14:37:58 GMT
Post by Hobhead on Dec 6, 2020 14:37:58 GMT
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Dec 9, 2020 9:16:30 GMT
Post by Hobhead on Dec 9, 2020 9:16:30 GMT
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Dec 9, 2020 9:36:36 GMT
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Post by Dick on Dec 9, 2020 9:36:36 GMT
My wife has been furloughed from a permanent role - 1 day a week. She's self employed the rest of the time for a few days and hasn't had anything at all for that for 9 months. However, she has a shop on Etsy which has picked up massively over the last 2 months, and she's made around £1.5k just on selling what she does. We're not on the poverty line, but thats the difference between being comfortable for the next couple of months and having to really tighten the belts. You could see how easy it is to drop into in when some people can't qualify for any of the aid being offered.
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Post by tetchyarse on Dec 9, 2020 12:23:46 GMT
For years people have gone along with the idea of "workers v shirkers" and that anyone on benefits is a scrounger who deserves nothing. And now they've realised that's not true, but they've loved the idea of benefit cuts for so long that now benefits simply aren't enough to live on.
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Dec 9, 2020 14:33:33 GMT
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Dec 9, 2020 14:33:33 GMT
For years people have gone along with the idea of "workers v shirkers" and that anyone on benefits is a scrounger who deserves nothing. And now they've realised that's not true, but they've loved the idea of benefit cuts for so long that now benefits simply aren't enough to live on. I’d like to think all those ‘hard working heroes’ in gravy train jobs might yet be faced with the reality of life on benefits. But, of course, its low paid private sector workers and small businesses paying the price for ‘saving lives’, whilst virtue signalling cronies pull up the drawbridge and look after themselves
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Dec 9, 2020 14:45:37 GMT
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Dec 9, 2020 14:45:37 GMT
For years people have gone along with the idea of "workers v shirkers" and that anyone on benefits is a scrounger who deserves nothing. And now they've realised that's not true, but they've loved the idea of benefit cuts for so long that now benefits simply aren't enough to live on. I’d like to think all those ‘hard working heroes’ in gravy train jobs might yet be faced with the reality of life on benefits. But, of course, its low paid private sector workers and small businesses paying the price for ‘saving lives’, whilst virtue signalling cronies pull up the drawbridge and look after themselves I’ve got a mate who’s a data analyst for a council round here. He’s just been shoved a second pay freeze for his role in ten years, despite the fact he’s a) paid less than he would be in the private sector (this is true for all but the lowest paid in the public sector) and b) spent the whole year running around making sure people weren’t homeless in a pandemic and organising food deliveries for vulnerable people.
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Post by Pyongyang Bantam on Dec 9, 2020 21:08:06 GMT
I’d like to think all those ‘hard working heroes’ in gravy train jobs might yet be faced with the reality of life on benefits. But, of course, its low paid private sector workers and small businesses paying the price for ‘saving lives’, whilst virtue signalling cronies pull up the drawbridge and look after themselves I’ve got a mate who’s a data analyst for a council round here. He’s just been shoved a second pay freeze for his role in ten years, despite the fact he’s a) paid less than he would be in the private sector (this is true for all but the lowest paid in the public sector) and b) spent the whole year running around making sure people weren’t homeless in a pandemic and organising food deliveries for vulnerable people. I’m not being flippant, but why doesn’t he get a job in the private sector if he feels he is being underpayed? Fair play for all the good samaritan stuff. Good for him. But hes in a secure tax payer funded job. Hes one of the lucky ones. Like i said, its private sector workers and small businesses bearing the brunt, especially in the service and hospitality sectors. So a bit of humility wouldn’t go amiss, rather than moaning about not getting a pay rise. It sort of reminds me od MPs who justify their salary and expenses by claiming they could be earning x amount in the private sector. And we’re supposed to be thankfull for their ‘sacrifice’.
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Dec 10, 2020 6:33:37 GMT
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Post by rahicscissorbudget on Dec 10, 2020 6:33:37 GMT
I’ve got a mate who’s a data analyst for a council round here. He’s just been shoved a second pay freeze for his role in ten years, despite the fact he’s a) paid less than he would be in the private sector (this is true for all but the lowest paid in the public sector) and b) spent the whole year running around making sure people weren’t homeless in a pandemic and organising food deliveries for vulnerable people. I’m not being flippant, but why doesn’t he get a job in the private sector if he feels he is being underpayed? Fair play for all the good samaritan stuff. Good for him. But hes in a secure tax payer funded job. Hes one of the lucky ones. Like i said, its private sector workers and small businesses bearing the brunt, especially in the service and hospitality sectors. So a bit of humility wouldn’t go amiss, rather than moaning about not getting a pay rise. It sort of reminds me od MPs who justify their salary and expenses by claiming they could be earning x amount in the private sector. And we’re supposed to be thankfull for their ‘sacrifice’. Maybe he needs to stay in that area and it’s the best job bailable to him, maybe he values the security and working conditions over pay, I don’t know. I’ve just seen people whinging about overpaid public sector jobs on here a few times but it’s a fallacy for all but the very bottom paid, which is really sumat the private sector needs to sort out. It wasn’t Good Samaritan stuff either, that’s what everybody in the council got redeployed to do. And tbf to him, he doesn’t moan about it.
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Dec 10, 2020 8:03:10 GMT
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Post by Neshead on Dec 10, 2020 8:03:10 GMT
I’m not being flippant, but why doesn’t he get a job in the private sector if he feels he is being underpayed? Fair play for all the good samaritan stuff. Good for him. But hes in a secure tax payer funded job. Hes one of the lucky ones. Like i said, its private sector workers and small businesses bearing the brunt, especially in the service and hospitality sectors. So a bit of humility wouldn’t go amiss, rather than moaning about not getting a pay rise. It sort of reminds me od MPs who justify their salary and expenses by claiming they could be earning x amount in the private sector. And we’re supposed to be thankfull for their ‘sacrifice’. Maybe he needs to stay in that area and it’s the best job bailable to him, maybe he values the security and working conditions over pay, I don’t know. I’ve just seen people whinging about overpaid public sector jobs on here a few times but it’s a fallacy for all but the very bottom paid, which is really sumat the private sector needs to sort out. It wasn’t Good Samaritan stuff either, that’s what everybody in the council got redeployed to do. And tbf to him, he doesn’t moan about it. Morale in public sector employment is at an all time low. Pay freezes and poor working conditions have taken their toll. The private sector ain't no different though, at least in the public sector there's a back up for things like sickness and mental health. Being self employed like me I'd love some of that. My brother in law works for the NHS, spends weeks at a time down London with Witty and his mates Honestly it's a right fucking number, the rest of the time working from home, good holidays and time off when he wants it.
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Dec 10, 2020 8:32:34 GMT
Post by bantam147 on Dec 10, 2020 8:32:34 GMT
I'm probably behind the curve on this, but I've only just realized that this new vaccine doesn't actually stop you getting or transmitting Covid, it just reduces the severity of the illness. In which case, why would anyone who's otherwise fit and well under the age of 60 even need the fucking thing?
Farce.
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Dec 10, 2020 8:54:10 GMT
Post by Hobhead on Dec 10, 2020 8:54:10 GMT
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Post by tetchyarse on Dec 10, 2020 19:16:12 GMT
I get paid less than I would in the private sector, and get fewer holidays, but there is theoretically more job security. Swings and roundabouts. But civil servants aren't massively overpaid, as any study of equivalent jobs shows. What distorts overall averages in the UK is that low paid civil servants- cleaners, security, etc- were outsourced a long time ago.
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Dec 15, 2020 8:51:29 GMT
Post by Hobhead on Dec 15, 2020 8:51:29 GMT
You can see an uptick in March, a very nasty April and a really bad May. It tails off in June and returns to normal after that. Since then, nothing much different compared to the previous year.
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Dec 15, 2020 8:52:01 GMT
Post by Hobhead on Dec 15, 2020 8:52:01 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 15, 2020 9:59:02 GMT
We’re being absolutely fucked. I’m amazed that some can’t see it. Pressure now to roll back from the ‘relaxed Covid rules over Xmas’. They can fuck right off.
Bit by bit, its ramping further and further up.
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Dec 18, 2020 7:43:33 GMT
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Post by edin on Dec 18, 2020 7:43:33 GMT
Forget tier 2 status its lockdown 3.0
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Dec 19, 2020 17:06:10 GMT
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 19, 2020 17:06:10 GMT
Do you feel controlled yet....?
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Post by Hobhead on Dec 19, 2020 17:11:24 GMT
Do you feel controlled yet....? Party at mine between Christmas and new year. It won’t be getting cancelled.
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Post by bantam147 on Dec 19, 2020 17:16:36 GMT
Do you feel controlled yet....? Party at mine between Christmas and new year. It won’t be getting cancelled. Me neither. Zero fucks.
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